Disapproval of GOP Peaks in Blame for the Budget Crisis

[himher 634]

More uninformed drivel. The only ones in panic are Republicans that haven't lost every last sense of reality.

You guys would have had another $125 billion to spend next year on each other if you had stood firm with that "debt ceiling doesn't mean more debt" schtick you like to spout. $1900 for every single person who voted for that moron.

Edited October 16, 2013 by himher

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

I'll let the pigeon be.

[himher 634]

I'll let the pigeon be.

Smart move sport

[Pinocchio Liberal 268]

Has anyone noticed all this non-sense by the little PUPPY above? So obvious what he is up to. He is so INVESTED he cant let go.

[Jacque67 7,328]

Someone's nose has grown.

[Protocol417 161]

My head is going to explode from the velocity of the liberal spin machine

Care to tell us where the USAC gets it's funding ?

It's that nifty little line on your phone bill, that everyone who actually pays for a phone is charged every month

FactCheck.org is apparently now part of the "liberal spin machine". Good to know.

If your phone company decides to charge you, that is their problem. As I stated, it is not tax-payer money.

[Protocol417 161]

Head explode? Hardly. All it takes to make this lot run like hell is to toss a couple of facts into the room.

You have yet to answer my question. What do the supposed "free phones"... or happy meals, for that matter... have to do with your over-dramatic statement of mortgaging our childrens' future?

PS: I apologize I didn't respond right away. My life often has me doing things which regrettably make it impossible for me to camp out on this website answering your posts.

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

FactCheck.org is apparently now part of the "liberal spin machine". Good to know.

If your phone company decides to charge you, that is their problem. As I stated, it is not tax-payer money.

OK where does the money come from then?

[Protocol417 161]

OK where does the money come from then?

You answered your own question: From telecommunications companies.

From factcheck.org:

Low-income households have been eligible for discounted telephone service for more than a decade. But the program is funded by telecom companies, not by taxes, and the president has nothing to do with it.

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SafeLink Wireless, the program mentioned in the e-mail, does indeed offer a cell phone, about one hour’s worth of calling time per month, and other wireless services like voice mail to eligible low-income households.

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SafeLink is run by a subsidiary of América Móvil, the world’s fourth largest wireless company in terms of subscribers, but it is not paid for directly by the company. Nor is it paid for with "tax payer money," as the e-mail claims. Rather, it is funded through the Universal Service Fund, which is administered by the Universal Service Administrative Company, an independent, not-for-profit corporation set up by the Federal Communications Commission. The USF is sustained by contributions from telecommunications companies such as "long distance companies, local telephone companies, wireless telephone companies, paging companies, and payphone providers." The companies often charge customers to fund their contributions in the form of a universal service fee you might see on your monthly phone bill [for the record, I checked and this does not appear on my bill, though this may have something to do with the fact that I do not have a subsidized phone on my plan - in other words, I'm "unlocked" and not under contract]. The fund is then parceled out to companies, such as América Móvil, that create programs, such as SafeLink, to provide telecommunications service to rural areas and low-income households

The rest can be found here: http://www.factcheck.org/2009/10/the-obama-phone/

and a bit more here: http://www.snopes.com/politics/taxes/cellphone.asp

I'd like to add here that this began from a comment that said something about "mortgaging our childrens' and childrens' childrens' future" or something similar. I took that to mean it was believed that this program adds to the national debt, though I'll admit, I could've been misinterpreting that, so if that needs clarification, by all means, please clarify. (I'm adding this partially to open it up for clarification and partially because we're starting to creep away from the context of the conversation.)

[Rich and Wen 101]

You guys would have had another $125 billion to spend next year on each other if you had stood firm with that "debt ceiling doesn't mean more debt" schtick you like to spout. $1900 for every single person who voted for that moron.

And we would have had another $415 billion to spend, had GW Bush not turned budget surplus into budget deficit in 2001 and future years.

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

And we would have had another $415 billion to spend, had GW Bush not turned budget surplus into budget deficit in 2001 and future years.

Do not speak facts in this forum when dealing with the pigeons. The pigeons will do what pigeons do. ####### all over the place and strut around victoriously regardless. Ain't worth it.

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

You answered your own question: From telecommunications companies.

From factcheck.org:

The rest can be found here: http://www.factcheck.org/2009/10/the-obama-phone/

and a bit more here: http://www.snopes.com/politics/taxes/cellphone.asp

I'd like to add here that this began from a comment that said something about "mortgaging our childrens' and childrens' childrens' future" or something similar. I took that to mean it was believed that this program adds to the national debt, though I'll admit, I could've been misinterpreting that, so if that needs clarification, by all means, please clarify. (I'm adding this partially to open it up for clarification and partially because we're starting to creep away from the context of the conversation.)

The money that the Telcom is charged is paid for by the Customers. That is a fact. That is what you libs can not wrap your heads around. Tax big oil you say, they have plenty of Money.of course it will fall on the consumer. The USC is paid for by the end user.

[BatmanUSA 105]

So they were against it ... 7+ years ago? HYPOCRITES!!!

but now they need the money....

[BatmanUSA 105]

Do not speak facts in this forum when dealing with the pigeons. The pigeons will do what pigeons do. ####### all over the place and strut around victoriously regardless. Ain't worth it.

yes, please do not attempt to argue facts with democraps.... they have their own special formulas, and logical discussions are above their education level... they will not give hard facts and figures, but simple say that you are wrong...