How to have evidence of a bonifide marriage?

[dwheels76 5,468]

Hey y'all!

As I still haven't hear back from the embassy, and still fear for a denial, I'm just trying to look what my options are/could be.

If my K1 is denied, then I suppose the only options are either to reaplly or get married and then file for a CR1. Or am I forgetting something?

Anyway, if we choose the CR1 route, then we would get married in Belgium so my family can be there. (Since they are not able to travel to MS anyway. Later on we'd just do a little wedding for his family back in the States.)

So if I get this right, then we need to marry, he needs to go back to America and then file for a spouse visa. Right?

If so, then I wonder.. how do we do prove/present evidence of a bonifide marriage?

As examples it states in the VJ guide to have joint ownership or property, joint tenancy of a common residence, etc etc.

But we won't be able to have any of that since we won't live together until that visa is completed and I enter the country. Right?

How does all that work, can anyone explain?

Well if its your Affidavit of Support being reviewed can you line up a sponsor? they will give you a year to get one. So I think you are panicking to early about denial. Telling you you need a co-sponsor isn't a denial unless there is something else.

Just wait to see what the embassy says and then do what needs to be done.

[Mark88 183]

The other history is fine because it shows ability to earn. I hope they will realize the 2 K amounts ..

If you would only be 2K short in earnings, you can provide proof of cash savings of about US$10K. This would close the gap (5x Rule).

[Silvietta86 2]

Okay, thanks!

Another question..

If we marry here, we'd have a Belgian marriage certificate of course.

That should count anywhere in the world, right?

Or do we need supporting papers, translations,.. for it?

yes you can use the Belgian marriage certificate, plus in the European Union you can ask for a plurilingual certificate (and you can do the same for your birth certificate) so that you won't have to loose time and money for translations.

you also will have to put apostilles on every Belgian certificate.

[John&Lena 17]

If you would only be 2K short in earnings, you can provide proof of cash savings of about US$10K. This would close the gap (5x Rule).

He has cash savings of $30K, I included a statement of the bank regarding that. The interview lady didn't say anything about that though..

[John&Lena 17]

yes you can use the Belgian marriage certificate, plus in the European Union you can ask for a plurilingual certificate (and you can do the same for your birth certificate) so that you won't have to loose time and money for translations.

you also will have to put apostilles on every Belgian certificate.

When I asked for my birth certificate, I asked if it was possible to get it in English and they said no. So I had to pay a translator for that.

So are you sure about the plurilingual-ness?

And what are apostilles?

[Mark88 183]

He has cash savings of $30K, I included a statement of the bank regarding that. The interview lady didn't say anything about that though..

then you are good.

[John&Lena 17]

then you are good.

Then why did I get put under review?

Couldn't she just say that that makes up for it?

Where did you get the 5x rule info by the way?

[Mark88 183]

Then why did I get put under review?

Couldn't she just say that that makes up for it?

Sadly in my own experience it doesn't seem to be their job to help you. Either they don't want to, or they don't know the law themselfs.

Where did you get the 5x rule info by the way?

"What Cash Value of Assets is Needed?"

http://travel.state.gov/visa/immigrants/info/info_3183.html

Just provide a bank statement.

[Mark88 183]

When I asked for my birth certificate, I asked if it was possible to get it in English and they said no. So I had to pay a translator for that.

So are you sure about the plurilingual-ness?

You have to ask for a "International birth certificate". These are issued through your local civil registry office.

And what are apostilles?

http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apostilleverdrag

http://www.sos.wa.gov/corps/apostilles/aboutus.aspx

[John&Lena 17]

Okay thanks for all the info!

[Harpa Timsah 13,258]

Your denial (which isn't even confirmed yet) is related to lack of a suitable sponsor. Getting married or trying again doesn't solve that problem. It seems like you have already shown a bona fide relationship.

I would focus on getting a co-sponsor lined up, just in case, so this current visa application will be successful.

[John&Lena 17]

Your denial (which isn't even confirmed yet) is related to lack of a suitable sponsor. Getting married or trying again doesn't solve that problem. It seems like you have already shown a bona fide relationship.

I know, I just want to check what my options could be in case of a denial. I am just gathering all information I can.

[Silvietta86 2]

When I asked for my birth certificate, I asked if it was possible to get it in English and they said no. So I had to pay a translator for that.

So are you sure about the plurilingual-ness?

And what are apostilles?

In 1976 European countries signed a convention in Wien so civil documents can be released on a plurilingual form. Ask for it, not for an English certificate 'cause it's not only in English.

Apostilles is a stamp that gives value to the document even outside European Union. I could tell you about how I had it in Italy but I don't know where you have to go for having it in Belgium.

[John&Lena 17]

In 1976 European countries signed a convention in Wien so civil documents can be released on a plurilingual form. Ask for it, not for an English certificate 'cause it's not only in English.

Apostilles is a stamp that gives value to the document even outside European Union. I could tell you about how I had it in Italy but I don't know where you have to go for having it in Belgium.

That's helpful; thank ya!

[bellavita38 1]

In 1976 European countries signed a convention in Wien so civil documents can be released on a plurilingual form. Ask for it, not for an English certificate 'cause it's not only in English.

Apostilles is a stamp that gives value to the document even outside European Union. I could tell you about how I had it in Italy but I don't know where you have to go for having it in Belgium.

Can you tell me how you did it in Italy? Feel free to PM me. I will be doing same soon!! Thanks.