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Filed: F-2A Visa Country: India
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Hey everyone,

I am having a problem filling a line in i-864a form. My dad is the main sponsor; and my brother-in-law and mom being the household members as joint sponsors.

In Part 2 'Sponsor's promise' we have to mention the names of immigrants, but i read in instructions that if its a case of joint sponsor then you dont have to mention anything in the list. But the confusion i have is, above that list, theres a blank (indicate number); thats the number who are immigrating. So do i have to mention 1 (because its just me as applicant) or do we have to mention 0 since we arent going to fill the names below.

Thanks a lot in advance, much appreciated smile.png

I-130

2011-11-08: I-130 Sent

2011-11-09: Priority Date

NVC

2013-06-06: NVC Recieved

2013-09-20: Received I-864 Bill

2013-09-28: Paid I-864 Bill

2013-09-28: AOS Docs sent

2013-10-08: Received IV Bill

2013-10-08: Paid IV Bill

2013-10-08: IV Docs sent

2013-11-14: Checklist received for AOS

2013-11-14: Checklist received for IV Documents

2013-11-16: Response to Checklist sent

2013-12-19: Case complete

2013-12-27: Interview Letter by Email

2014-01-11: Medical at Apollo, Ahmedabad

2014-02-16: Biometrics at VAC

2014-02-18: Interview at Mumbai Consulate ~Approved!! biggrin.png

2014-02-21: Visa Received

2014-02-28: BOM-JFK Journey Date!

2014-03-01: New York - JFK Port of Entry

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There is no "household members as joint sponsors". You are either a joint sponsor, or you are a household member of a sponsor. They are different things. If you are a joint sponsor, then you fill out an I-864, and your income alone (plus any household members you may count) must satisfy the 125% poverty level for your family + the immigrant. If you are a household member of a sponsor, then you fill out an I-864A, and you add your income to the sponsor's.

Filed: F-2A Visa Country: India
Timeline
Posted

Thanks for the reply.

Sorry for confusion, brother in law and my mom are the household members who will add their income to my dad's. So they 2 will fill out the i-864A form. The problem is what to fill in that (indicate number blank) in 2nd and 3rd section of that form (i864a).

I-130

2011-11-08: I-130 Sent

2011-11-09: Priority Date

NVC

2013-06-06: NVC Recieved

2013-09-20: Received I-864 Bill

2013-09-28: Paid I-864 Bill

2013-09-28: AOS Docs sent

2013-10-08: Received IV Bill

2013-10-08: Paid IV Bill

2013-10-08: IV Docs sent

2013-11-14: Checklist received for AOS

2013-11-14: Checklist received for IV Documents

2013-11-16: Response to Checklist sent

2013-12-19: Case complete

2013-12-27: Interview Letter by Email

2014-01-11: Medical at Apollo, Ahmedabad

2014-02-16: Biometrics at VAC

2014-02-18: Interview at Mumbai Consulate ~Approved!! biggrin.png

2014-02-21: Visa Received

2014-02-28: BOM-JFK Journey Date!

2014-03-01: New York - JFK Port of Entry

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If there's only 1 immigrant, put 1 on the blank where it asked to.

F2a Son of LPR (brother)

1-20-12-- Priority Date

6-11-13-Approval Date

09-06-13-Case Complete

09-07-13- Expedite Request @ NVC (approved)

09-30-13-Case left NVC building (per CSR)

10-02-13- Case "In Transit" (CEAC)

10-08-13-Case " Ready"-Embassy received files

10-14-13- Called Embassy to set-up Interview. email confirmation same day

10-16-13-Medical Done (1day)

10-29-13- Interview Date -APPROVED

10-29-13- VISA ISSUED( CEAC)

11-04-03- VISA ON HAND

xx-xx-xx- POE

Im the USC. Petioned Mom on 10/2010

Mom's POE- 11/2011

Mom petitioned my brother (F2a) and sister (F2b)-Jan2012
Next is Dad (IR5).~ Journey Never Ends~

K1-2005

AOS-2006

ROC-2008

Naturalization-2009-2010

IR5-2010-2011

F2a-(brother) 2012-2013

F2b-(sister) PD 1/2012

F4- (sister)

Filed: F-2A Visa Country: India
Timeline
Posted

but the dilemma i am having here is instructions said not to mention any names in the list below if its a case of 'joint sponsor'. So basically we are leaving the lines below as blank. unsure.png

I-130

2011-11-08: I-130 Sent

2011-11-09: Priority Date

NVC

2013-06-06: NVC Recieved

2013-09-20: Received I-864 Bill

2013-09-28: Paid I-864 Bill

2013-09-28: AOS Docs sent

2013-10-08: Received IV Bill

2013-10-08: Paid IV Bill

2013-10-08: IV Docs sent

2013-11-14: Checklist received for AOS

2013-11-14: Checklist received for IV Documents

2013-11-16: Response to Checklist sent

2013-12-19: Case complete

2013-12-27: Interview Letter by Email

2014-01-11: Medical at Apollo, Ahmedabad

2014-02-16: Biometrics at VAC

2014-02-18: Interview at Mumbai Consulate ~Approved!! biggrin.png

2014-02-21: Visa Received

2014-02-28: BOM-JFK Journey Date!

2014-03-01: New York - JFK Port of Entry

Filed: F-2A Visa Country: India
Timeline
Posted
Heres what i-864a instructions say about Part 2 of the form :



• If the sponsor you are promising to make your income available to is not sponsoring the intending immigrant ( this should be true only in cases with two joint sponsors, with "no" checked on item 8 of the sponsor's form i-864), then do not list the intending immigrant on line "a" of item 13 on this form. Instead, list on lines "a" through "f" any spouse and any children that appear on lines 9a through 9e of the sponsor's Form i-864. •



So we have checked No and its applicable for our case, and hence we dont have to list the names of inteding immigrant on i-864a.

So the blank about indicate number confuses me whether to write 1 (cause its only me) or 0 ( cause we didnt list anyone)


I-130

2011-11-08: I-130 Sent

2011-11-09: Priority Date

NVC

2013-06-06: NVC Recieved

2013-09-20: Received I-864 Bill

2013-09-28: Paid I-864 Bill

2013-09-28: AOS Docs sent

2013-10-08: Received IV Bill

2013-10-08: Paid IV Bill

2013-10-08: IV Docs sent

2013-11-14: Checklist received for AOS

2013-11-14: Checklist received for IV Documents

2013-11-16: Response to Checklist sent

2013-12-19: Case complete

2013-12-27: Interview Letter by Email

2014-01-11: Medical at Apollo, Ahmedabad

2014-02-16: Biometrics at VAC

2014-02-18: Interview at Mumbai Consulate ~Approved!! biggrin.png

2014-02-21: Visa Received

2014-02-28: BOM-JFK Journey Date!

2014-03-01: New York - JFK Port of Entry

Filed: Timeline
Posted
Heres what i-864a instructions say about Part 2 of the form :
• If the sponsor you are promising to make your income available to is not sponsoring the intending immigrant ( this should be true only in cases with two joint sponsors, with "no" checked on item 8 of the sponsor's form i-864), then do not list the intending immigrant on line "a" of item 13 on this form. Instead, list on lines "a" through "f" any spouse and any children that appear on lines 9a through 9e of the sponsor's Form i-864. •
So we have checked No and its applicable for our case, and hence we dont have to list the names of inteding immigrant on i-864a.
So the blank about indicate number confuses me whether to write 1 (cause its only me) or 0 ( cause we didnt list anyone)

Well you filled out the I-864 wrong. You will almost never check "no" on Part 3 #1 (formerly item 8) on the I-864. That can only happen in cases when there are two joint sponsors (which is extremely rare). There are NO joint sponsors in your case; in your case, the only sponsor is the petitioner. The petitioner must sponsor all the immigrants.

Filed: F-2A Visa Country: India
Timeline
Posted

Well you filled out the I-864 wrong. You will almost never check "no" on Part 3 #1 (formerly item 8) on the I-864. That can only happen in cases when there are two joint sponsors (which is extremely rare). There are NO joint sponsors in your case; in your case, the only sponsor is the petitioner. The petitioner must sponsor all the immigrants.

Well my petitioner doesn't meet the income requirement. So wouldnt it be a case of joint sponsor where 2 other household member will add their income to it ?

Appreciate your effort; but am really confused now unsure.png

I-130

2011-11-08: I-130 Sent

2011-11-09: Priority Date

NVC

2013-06-06: NVC Recieved

2013-09-20: Received I-864 Bill

2013-09-28: Paid I-864 Bill

2013-09-28: AOS Docs sent

2013-10-08: Received IV Bill

2013-10-08: Paid IV Bill

2013-10-08: IV Docs sent

2013-11-14: Checklist received for AOS

2013-11-14: Checklist received for IV Documents

2013-11-16: Response to Checklist sent

2013-12-19: Case complete

2013-12-27: Interview Letter by Email

2014-01-11: Medical at Apollo, Ahmedabad

2014-02-16: Biometrics at VAC

2014-02-18: Interview at Mumbai Consulate ~Approved!! biggrin.png

2014-02-21: Visa Received

2014-02-28: BOM-JFK Journey Date!

2014-03-01: New York - JFK Port of Entry

Filed: Timeline
Posted

Well my petitioner doesn't meet the income requirement. So wouldnt it be a case of joint sponsor where 2 other household member will add their income to it ?

Appreciate your effort; but am really confused now unsure.png

No, there are no joint sponsors. You are household members who are adding your income to the sponsor (petitioner) so that he will have enough income.

A joint sponsor would be someone who uses only their own income (plus any of their household members'), not pooled with the petitioner's.

Filed: F-2A Visa Country: India
Timeline
Posted

No, there are no joint sponsors. You are household members who are adding your income to the sponsor (petitioner) so that he will have enough income.

A joint sponsor would be someone who uses only their own income (plus any of their household members'), not pooled with the petitioner's.

Ohhh!! Its clear now. Looks like i filled the i864 wrong, since i ticked 'Joint Sponser' under the principle sponsor's name, instead of the option "I am the principle petitioner".

Thanks for the explanation :)

So what you guys suggest, should i wait for RFE since i already submitted the form ( they got it today) or should I just submit a new corrected form with a letter of explanation right away ?

I-130

2011-11-08: I-130 Sent

2011-11-09: Priority Date

NVC

2013-06-06: NVC Recieved

2013-09-20: Received I-864 Bill

2013-09-28: Paid I-864 Bill

2013-09-28: AOS Docs sent

2013-10-08: Received IV Bill

2013-10-08: Paid IV Bill

2013-10-08: IV Docs sent

2013-11-14: Checklist received for AOS

2013-11-14: Checklist received for IV Documents

2013-11-16: Response to Checklist sent

2013-12-19: Case complete

2013-12-27: Interview Letter by Email

2014-01-11: Medical at Apollo, Ahmedabad

2014-02-16: Biometrics at VAC

2014-02-18: Interview at Mumbai Consulate ~Approved!! biggrin.png

2014-02-21: Visa Received

2014-02-28: BOM-JFK Journey Date!

2014-03-01: New York - JFK Port of Entry

 
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