Nobel Committee Disses Putin

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Aside from the recent use of chemical weapons in Syria, there has been no use of chemical weapons since the CWC went into effect. Syria was one of only a handful of hold-outs on the CWC and has now acceded to the agreement. Contrary to popular opinion, the CWC has thus far been one of the more effective conventions. The Nobel Peace Price will give it another boost.

Israel uses chemical weapons against the Palestinians all the time. The US uses them against their own troops, "for training purposes", and for crowd control.

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BTW, the US is not a signator of the Land Mine Convention either.

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Israel uses chemical weapons against the Palestinians all the time. The US uses them against their own troops, "for training purposes", and for crowd control.

The CWC defines chemical weapons very clearly. Tear gas is not a chemical weapon under the CWC. Nice try, though.

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The CWC defines chemical weapons very clearly. Tear gas is not a chemical weapon under the CWC. Nice try, though.

CS is covered under CWC. It's military use is prohibited. The US and Israel tend to ignore that part of the CWC.

Use of CS in war is prohibited under the terms of the 1997 Chemical Weapons Convention, signed by most nations in 1993 with all but five other nations signing between the years of 1994 through 1997. The reasoning behind the prohibition is pragmatic: use of CS by one combatant could easily trigger retaliation with much more toxic chemical weapons such as nerve agents. Only five nations have not signed the Chemical Weapons Convention and are therefore unhindered by restrictions on the use of CS gas: Angola, Egypt, North Korea, Somalia, and Syria.[19]

Domestic police use of CS is legal in many countries, however, as the Chemical Weapons Convention prohibits only military use.

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Use of CS in war is prohibited under the terms of the 1997 Chemical Weapons Convention,...

In what war has the US used CS gas since 1997?

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In what war has the US used CS gas since 1997?

The military use is banned under CWC. The US uses it on its own troops, during training. That much I can tell you from first hand experience. US troops have used CS gas in both Iraq and Afghanistan, against non-combatants, including detainees. You tell me if either one of those constitutes a "military use".

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The military use is banned under CWC. The US uses it on its own troops, during training. That much I can tell you from first hand experience. US troops have used CS gas in both Iraq and Afghanistan, against non-combatants, including detainees. You tell me if either one of those constitutes a "military use".

That use not in conflict with the CWC according to the OPCW.

The Organization for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons, which oversees the Chemical Weapons Convention, officially acknowledges just one chemical attack since 1990 — by a Japanese cult using homemade sarin gas on the Tokyo subway that killed 13 people and sickened thousands on March 20, 1995.

The last use by a country, OPCW reports, was by Iraq in 1988, before the Gulf war. Whether Syria actually used deadly gas last month, is still being investigated.

Read more at Jacksonville.com: http://jacksonville.com/news/2013-09-15/story/fact-check-was-yoho-correct-saying-gulf-war-there-have-been-20-instances#ixzz2hSZq1koD

Edited October 11, 2013 by Mr. Big Dog

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That use not in conflict with the CWC according to the OPCW.

So, avoiding conflict gets the OPCW a Nobel prize, by not reporting violations of the CWC. Sounds about right.

PolitiFact.com concluded that if you count confirmed chemical weapons attacks by governments since 1990, the answer comes up zero. But if you use looser definitions and a longer time frame, as did Yoho, that would get him to 20 or more attacks.

Read more at Jacksonville.com: http://jacksonville.com/news/2013-09-15/story/fact-check-was-yoho-correct-saying-gulf-war-there-have-been-20-instances

Edited October 11, 2013 by The Patriot

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So, avoiding conflict gets the OPCW a Nobel prize, by not reporting violations of the CWC. Sounds about right.

I don't know. I tend to think that the OPCW knows a bit more about what does and what does not constitute a violation of the CWC. Just my gut feeling.

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I don't know. I tend to think that the OPCW knows a bit more about what does and what does not constitute a violation of the CWC. Just my gut feeling.

That's is what you are supposed to feel.

Edited October 11, 2013 by The Patriot

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Gary will be crushed.

You had to go and say his name. It's like that movie Beteljuice. Now you're going to be rewarded with paragraphs of his vast knowledge of FSU states.

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That's is what you are supposed to feel.

I see. It's a conspiracy. Cool.

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I see. It's a conspiracy. Cool.

No. It is just another feckless organization, much like the UN.

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No. It is just another feckless organization, much like the UN.

You're free to hold that opinion. Doesn't make it so but you may believe so if that makes you feel better.

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You're free to hold that opinion. Doesn't make it so but you may believe so if that makes you feel better.