Nobel Committee Disses Putin

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

We know that some of the more delusional posters have developed a severe crush for Putin - not that there's anything wrong with that. Apparently driven by that crush were silly speculations that their idol might be honored with the Nobel Peace Price this year. Well, their hopes were rudely crush just now when the price was actually awarded to an agency of the UN rather than to the KGB apparatschik that they have so fallen in love with as of late. And it's not just any UN agency either but the very agency that is now stripping Putin's close Mid-East ally Assad of his chemical weapons stockpile.

[Jacque67 7,328]

Banzai!

[Penny Lane 8,159]

[Sarah Elle-Même 660]

Second lamest Peace Prize ever given, second only to Barack "Drone Lover for Life" Obama. Good for them, rewarding a Nobel peace prize to an impotent UN agency that has no resonance or relevance as long as major global powers still have chemical weapons.

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

Second lamest Peace Prize ever given, second only to Barack "Drone Lover for Life" Obama. Good for them, rewarding a Nobel peace prize to an impotent UN agency that has no resonance or relevance as long as major global powers still have chemical weapons.

Aside from the recent use of chemical weapons in Syria, there has been no use of chemical weapons since the CWC went into effect. Syria was one of only a handful of hold-outs on the CWC and has now acceded to the agreement. Contrary to popular opinion, the CWC has thus far been one of the more effective conventions. The Nobel Peace Price will give it another boost.

[Crashed~N2~Me 970]

Why don't they award it to Bob the garbage man next.

OPCW is just doing what they are paid to do. Clean up messes.

(& No...I'm not a Putin lover...IMO = O is "the man" on Syria's dismantle)

Edited October 11, 2013 by Crashed~N2~Me

[Sarah Elle-Même 660]

Aside from the recent use of chemical weapons in Syria, there has been no use of chemical weapons since the CWC went into effect. Syria was one of only a handful of hold-outs on the CWC and has now acceded to the agreement. Contrary to popular opinion, the CWC has thus far been one of the more effective conventions. The Nobel Peace Price will give it another boost.

There is absolutely no proof that the Syrian government used them recently either. In fact, long before the infamous Ghouta attacks the Syrian government requested the chemical weapons inspectors come to visit sites of reported chemical weapons use. The inspectors were still there when the attacks happened. Why would they do that if they were the culprits?

And why should Syria have bothered signing the CWC before when Israel still hasn't ratified it? Will Israel ever ratify it? Fat f----ing chance.

Edited October 11, 2013 by Sarah and Adnan

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

There is absolutely no proof that the Syrian government used them recently either.

Yes, there is. There is no doubt or even dispute that chemical weapons were used. And this, right there on the picture, is where the C-weapons were fired from. Mount Qasioun. That's a known. Rebels could not have fired them from there. It's where the headquarters of Assad's elite troops are stationed.

Edited October 11, 2013 by Mr. Big Dog

[Sarah Elle-Même 660]

Yes, there is.

No more proof than there was of WMDs in Iraq.

You didn't believe Bush back then did you? Why believe Obama now? Is it his honest face?

[Sarah Elle-Même 660]

The former "cheese-eating surrender monkeys" are doing their part, enthusiastically supporting the White House "evidence" with a dodgy report of their own, largely based on YouTube intel. [2]

Even Fox News admitted that the US electronic intel essentially came from the 8200 unit of the Israeli Defense Forces (IDF) - their version of the NSA. [3] Here, former UK ambassador Craig Murray convincingly debunks the Israeli intercepted intel scam.

The most startling counterpunch to the White House spin remains the Mint Press News report by AP correspondent Dale Gavlak on the spot, in Ghouta, Damascus, with anti-Assad residents stressing that "certain rebels received chemical weapons via the Saudi intelligence chief, Prince Bandar bin Sultan, and were responsible for carrying out the gas attack''.

I had a jolt when I first read it - as I have been stressing the role of Bandar Bush as the dark arts mastermind behind the new Syria war strategy (See Bandar Bush, 'liberator' of Syria, Asia Times Online, August 13, 2013).

Then there's the fact that Syrian Army commandos, on August 24, raiding "rebel" tunnels in the Damascus suburb of Jobar, seized a warehouse crammed with chemicals required for mixing "kitchen sarin". The commando was hit by some form of nerve agent and sent samples for analysis in Russia. This evidence certainly is part of President Vladimir Putin's assessment of the White House claims as totally unconvincing.

On August 27, Saleh Muslim, head of the Kurdish Democratic Union Party (PYD), told Reuters the attack was "aimed at framing Assad''. And in case the UN inspectors found the "rebels" did it, "everybody would forget it". The clincher; "Are they are going to punish the Emir of Qatar or the King of Saudi Arabia, or Mr Erdogan of Turkey?"

So, in a nutshell, no matter how it happened, the locals in Ghouta said Jabhat al-Nusra did it; and Syrian Kurds believe this was a false flag to frame Damascus.

By now, any decent lawyer would be asking cui bono? What would be Assad's motive - to cross the "red line" and launch a chemical weapons attack on the day UN inspectors arrive in Damascus, just 15 kilometers away from their hotel?

This is the same US government who sold the world the narrative of a bunch of unskilled Arabs armed with box cutters hijacking passenger jets and turning them into missiles smack in the middle of the most protected airspace on the planet, on behalf of an evil transnational organization.

So now this same evil organization is incapable of launching a rudimentary chemical weapons attack with DIY rockets - a scenario I first outlined even before Gavlak's report. [4] Here is a good round-up of the "rebels" dabbling with chemical weapons. Additionally, in late May, Turkish security forces had already found sarin gas held by hardcore Jabhat al-Nusra jihadis.

From http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/MID-01-030913.html

http://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2013/08/the-troodos-conundrum/

http://www.globalresearch.ca/so-called-intelligence-debunking-the-u-s-government-assessment-of-the-syrian-governments-use-of-chemical-weapons-on-august-21-2013/5347359

http://www.globalresearch.ca/yes-the-syrian-rebels-do-have-access-to-chemical-weapons/5347611

[mota bhai 2,675]

I love all the whining from the left about drones. Do they prefer to see actual US troops on the ground taking out these targets instead? Or do they prefer to leave the targets alone and not execute on the war on terror at all? Which is it you people prefer? Dead American troops or dead American civilians? Idiots.

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

Yassir Arafat, Al gore, Obama, just a short list of the people that made Nobel prizes a laughing stock

I am sure Putin is crushed

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

No more proof than there was of WMDs in Iraq.

Wrong. See the edited post above. We know where the weapons were fired from - a location that is without a doubt occupied by Assad's military.

From http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/MID-01-030913.html

http://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2013/08/the-troodos-conundrum/

http://www.globalresearch.ca/so-called-intelligence-debunking-the-u-s-government-assessment-of-the-syrian-governments-use-of-chemical-weapons-on-august-21-2013/5347359

http://www.globalresearch.ca/yes-the-syrian-rebels-do-have-access-to-chemical-weapons/5347611

I'm not relying on the US government reports or evidence.

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

I love all the whining from the left about drones. Do they prefer to see actual US troops on the ground taking out these targets instead? Or do they prefer to leave the targets alone and not execute on the war on terror at all? Which is it you people prefer? Dead American troops or dead American civilians? Idiots.

A Hell fire missile fired from a drone is so much more inhumane than one fired from an Apache.

The silly things liberals blather about to try and look cool

[RGinWA 816]

Gary will be crushed. He was already writing the acceptance speech.

Between this, Obama's reelection and the Government being shut down for nothing it's been a bad year for Republican's.

So sad...