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Hi there

i have been a PR since 09/27/2007. I was married since 2005 and we are still married. So when I am filing up the N-400 form, should I select option A been a PR over 5 years or Option B for the marriage?

If I select Option A, do I only need to send it the following items?

1) N-400 form

2) Ca$H

3) 2 passport photos

4) Copy of my PR back and front

Thanks

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You can check the Option A, following the 5 year rule. It will be least documents for you to send. Make sure you add 5 years of tax returns copies as well because they will need that. Applying under the 5 year rule doesn't mean that the officer won't ask you about your marriage, so in your interview take some strong proofs that you are genuinely married (birth certificates, bank statements, phone bills, insurance bills... that shows both your names). Don't send cash as well, money order or personal check or cashier check. Good luck.

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You can check the Option A, following the 5 year rule. It will be least documents for you to send. Make sure you add 5 years of tax returns copies as well because they will need that. Applying under the 5 year rule doesn't mean that the officer won't ask you about your marriage, so in your interview take some strong proofs that you are genuinely married (birth certificates, bank statements, phone bills, insurance bills... that shows both your names). Don't send cash as well, money order or personal check or cashier check. Good luck.

5 years tax records...I thought we keep 3 years.....Is 3 years will be suffice? If I need the other 2 years, can I request from IRS?

So from what you saying, I can send in supplemental information even though it didn't ask for it. I can send it marriage cert, 3 years tax info, bank statement etc..?

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5 years tax records...I thought we keep 3 years.....Is 3 years will be suffice? If I need the other 2 years, can I request from IRS?

So from what you saying, I can send in supplemental information even though it didn't ask for it. I can send it marriage cert, 3 years tax info, bank statement etc..?

Also on the tax records, do you only send the front page of summary of E-filling?

Also, I just moved from Maryland to Virginia in August. Do I have to wait 3 months? or VA and MD considered as same district

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Also on the tax records, do you only send the front page of summary of E-filling?

Also, I just moved from Maryland to Virginia in August. Do I have to wait 3 months? or VA and MD considered as same district

If you apply under the 5 year rule they will ask you for 5 years tax returns. If you apply under 3 year rule, they will ask you for 3 years tax returns. You don't have to send the supplemental stuff if you file under 5 year rule but in your interview the officer could ask you about your marital status and want to see some proofs. If you apply under the 3 year rule, you will have to send the supplemental stuff (at least thats what I did) so later in the interview you bring some stuff from the day you applied. If you don't have 5 year tax returns, apply under 3 year rule so you won't have to go through all of the hassle to get them from IRS (Government shutdown might take awhile). If your local office is different from the one that you had before then yes you have to wait 3 months before you apply, otherwise you will be denied. Good luck.

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If you apply under the 5 year rule they will ask you for 5 years tax returns. If you apply under 3 year rule, they will ask you for 3 years tax returns. You don't have to send the supplemental stuff if you file under 5 year rule but in your interview the officer could ask you about your marital status and want to see some proofs. If you apply under the 3 year rule, you will have to send the supplemental stuff (at least thats what I did) so later in the interview you bring some stuff from the day you applied. If you don't have 5 year tax returns, apply under 3 year rule so you won't have to go through all of the hassle to get them from IRS (Government shutdown might take awhile). If your local office is different from the one that you had before then yes you have to wait 3 months before you apply, otherwise you will be denied. Good luck.

Thanks..how about the waiting 3 months after you moved to another state? is VA and MD considered the same district?

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apply based on 5 years. you need to have your tax transcript for the interview, not for the initial filling. paying your tax is one part of showing a good moral character

you need to wait 3 months before you apply. MD and VA are not the same district.

MD is under the jurisdiction of Baltimore field office

Northern VA and DC under the jurisdiction of Washington field office- Fairfax

AOS

day 1 -- 04/11/2012-- package sent to Chicago

day 2 -- 04/12/2012-- package was received.

day 43-- 05/23/2012-- Notice for an interview is received for 06/26 @ 2pm

day 63-- 06/12/2012-- Received a Text & email for an update- Card production EAD/AP

day 77-- 06/26/2012-- interview / approved on the spot.

day 86-- 07/05/2012-- Received my GC in the mail.

ROC

day 1 -- 04/07/2014 -- ROC Package delivered to VSC

day 16 -- 04/23/2014 -- Walk-in Bio.

day 197 -- 10/20/2014-- Approval Letter received dated 10/16/2014

day 202 -- 10/25/2014-- GC received

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Stepdaughter had to wait five years because she barely turned 18 when her mom was naturalized. We just sent in the basics like you posted. But to be on the safe side, got four years of tax transcripts, she only had four years of part time jobs, and tossed in her grade transcripts. Her IO didn't even want to see these. I am gathering the reason is because he knew she had them.

Evidence is a very confusing issue, the latest for the marriage privilege is really confusing, loaded with OR's and they really mean AND's, but is a privilege to get your US citizenship two years sooner. But you are well beyond that stage. Reason why we went through that with my wife, she never received her ten year card yet. After her one year extension expired, had to make an infopass appointment to get that I-551 in her current foreign passport. Feel the act of her applying for US citizenship was the only reason they finally issued her, her ten year green card, only to give it back.

So I piled her with evidence, even heard a rumor they were also asking for a completely worthless joint utility bill. So got her that, her IO was very disappointed my wife told me, that she could pull that out of our brief case, loaded with evidence. But had no choice but to approve her.

Point is, the IO can ask you for anything, and I feel just to be nasty, so better to have too much rather than not enough.

With my stepdaughter, she was hit with an unknown item, proof I paid a 50 dollar fine for her with a four year old minor traffic violation. Could have provided that if we knew about it. So she ended up with a RFE instead of getting approved.

With any other kind of governmental certification, you meet with a board, not just one individual like the USCIS. Luck is getting a half way reasonable one. She had to show her driver's license, wouldn't even that if she didn't pay a five buck parking ticket. But that didn't count with this basterd, wanted to see the receipt. That we had, but at home.

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Thank you Visajourney.com and all the members. My application is ready and I will send it next monday. Yes, I am permanent residend for more then 5 years. I need some further clarification on

some of the questions. For example, MYAFI1985 you said write present for your current job. You mean the word PRESENT or the present date? second, how I am gonna sign in the N400

FORM. In the instruction it says (You should sign your full name without abbreviating it or using initials. The signature must be legible.) so, if a person name is kay

jhon page and his signature is K.PAGE how he is gonna sign in his form? kay john page or K.PAGE?

THANK YOU.

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Thank you Visajourney.com and all the members. My application is ready and I will send it next monday. Yes, I am permanent residend for more then 5 years. I need some further clarification on

some of the questions. For example, MYAFI1985 you said write present for your current job. You mean the word PRESENT or the present date? second, how I am gonna sign in the N400

FORM. In the instruction it says (You should sign your full name without abbreviating it or using initials. The signature must be legible.) so, if a person name is kay

jhon page and his signature is K.PAGE how he is gonna sign in his form? kay john page or K.PAGE?

THANK YOU.

write the word PRESENT a window will pop up and say you can't do that but yes you can do that. The signature I signed my regular signature the way I signed my I485 and I 751 and all the documents I signed for USCIS. My file has been accepted and nothing was said about my signature. I have a first name, middle name and last name in my signature I don't include my first name at all.

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Thanks all. I will have to wait till at least end of Oct before I will send in my application. In the meantime, I will gather the following documentations

1) 4-5 years tax returns - I will send in summary page or 1040 only and bring the rest

2) Bank statement - joint bank statements

3) Marriage cert. copy

4) my copy of GC

5) N-400 form

6) Ca$h

7) passport photos X 2

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I would suggest you read the instructions again if you are applying for the 5 year rule Question A. That is how I applied.

You do NOT need those items you listed, I should expand - you do not need tax returns, bank statements or marriage cert.

Do the M-477 document checklist and you will see all you need is the first section 1), 2) and 3)

The question: If you are applying for naturalization on the basis of marriage to a U.S. citizen send the following items:....... DOES NOT APPLY if you are doing Question A.

I only sent the 3 required items and it asked if I was married before to send a copy of my divorce decree. Much easier, and only a few things needed.

My interview is tomorrow!

Good luck!

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NATURALIZATION -N400 5 Year Rule
11-24-2008: Eligible to file
07-10-2013: Application sent
07-17-2013: NOA1
08-07-2013: Biometrics
08-09-2013: Inline for interview
10-15-2013: Interview
11-15-2013: Oath ceremony

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