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Look, I don't disagree that its not a big deal to show you're a citizen to vote. BUT, as much as the left is opposing this because they know it will cost them votes, the right is pushing it because they know it will be less votes against them. THAT'S WHAT ALL OF THIS IS ABOUT. Anything else is anecdotal.

Off course it is. You are exactly right. I don't think the right makes any bones about the reason

Is it wrong for them not to want illegals to vote ?

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1) I read the article, what posesses you to even ask the question?

2) I think you like to hear yourself type.

3) I know what they want and I'm saying this is not a problem that needs fixing. You seem to think it is, or it will be in the future. How do you make that determination? Is voter fraud even a problem now? What makes you think it will be? The gov't never uses foresight, what they do is waste time and money on things that don't need fixing, that goes for both sides.

4) What about the elderly who might not have proof of their US citizenship? What then?

1) I asked because you exposed ignorance.. or is that just blind loyalty? You are not real quick to detect a set up are you?

2) You "think"..? Is that an "assumption" with very little to go on? = Yes. Teddy = Hypocrite.

3) More blind loyalty not worth debating. Next.

4) That's worth discussion. I'll give it some thought for fun but ..it's not my point. My point = Dems are blatantly trying to block a protective measure = That's another reason I call them - Demgenerates.

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Look, I don't disagree that its not a big deal to show you're a citizen to vote. BUT, as much as the left is opposing this because they know it will cost them votes, the right is pushing it because they know it will be less votes against them. THAT'S WHAT ALL OF THIS IS ABOUT. Anything else is anecdotal.

G, where are these cases of voter fraud that will cause the dems votes? I have yet to see any large scale voter fraud case ever be proven. They are always disproven.

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1) I asked because you exposed ignorance.. or is that just blind loyalty? You are not real quick to detect a set up are you?

2) You "think"..? Is that an "assumption" with very little to go on? = Yes. Teddy = Hypocrite.

3) More blind loyalty not worth debating. Next.

4) That's worth discussion. I'll give it some thought for fun but ..it's not my point. My point = Dems are blatantly trying to block a protective measure = That's another reason I call them - Demgenerates.

More fluff.

So you cannot show me one large scale case of voter fraud that's ever been proven. Nor can you back up your assumption that voter fraud is, or ever will be a problem.

That's what I thought. Thank You for playing.

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G, where are these cases of voter fraud that will cause the dems votes? I have yet to see any large scale voter fraud case ever be proven. They are always disproven.

Voter fraud is a tiny % in all the cases I've seen. BUT, what the right really wants to do is limit people without IDs from voting. These people are not necessarily illegals. For some reason, poor minorities don't see any reason to get any type of ID card. Speculate the reasons you want, but I don't know where it is written that said decision costs someone a right to vote. Granted, I would speculate that most people with out any type of voter ID are trying to conceal their identity for less than reputable reasons. Some will be legitimate no doubt.

Off course it is. You are exactly right. I don't think the right makes any bones about the reason

Is it wrong for them not to want illegals to vote ?

I think they're targeting more than illegals though. They're targeting citizens without IDs which is pretty wrong I think. Nothing ever comes without strings it seems.

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Voter fraud is a tiny % in all the cases I've seen. BUT, what the right really wants to do is limit people without IDs from voting. These people are not necessarily illegals. For some reason, poor minorities don't see any reason to get any type of ID card. Speculate the reasons you want, but I don't know where it is written that said decision costs someone a right to vote. Granted, I would speculate that most people with out any type of voter ID are trying to conceal their identity for less than reputable reasons. Some will be legitimate no doubt.

I think they're targeting more than illegals though. They're targeting citizens without IDs which is pretty wrong I think. Nothing ever comes without strings it seems.

You are correct in that voter fraud is a very tiny percentage, it's quite minute. The Republicans are losing popularity and in turn they are losing elections. They are doing everything they can in preventing people from voting democrat, and that includes stopping legal citizens from voting simply because they do not have an id. Now in Arizona they want to take it a step further and require proof of citizenship before issuing the id. That makes it even more difficult for the poor and the elderly, to get their id's. I am in favor of everyone posessing a gov't issued id. If a person can prove hardship, then the gov't should supply that person with their id at little or no charge.

If someone is attempting to hide their id for less than reputable reasons, then they probably don't vote anyway.

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More fluff.

So you cannot show me one large scale case of voter fraud that's ever been proven. Nor can you back up your assumption that voter fraud is, or ever will be a problem.

That's what I thought. Thank You for playing.

You are deflecting. That's the fluff.

Focus Teddy, Focus. The Repulsives want to install a proof of citizenship requirement for federal voting registration like they already have for state. The Demgenerates are attempting to block the protective measure.

If it's cold outside...do you dress for cold weather?

Every1 knows what Arizona thinks about illegals. Do you?

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Voter fraud is a tiny % in all the cases I've seen. BUT, what the right really wants to do is limit people without IDs from voting. These people are not necessarily illegals. For some reason, poor minorities don't see any reason to get any type of ID card. Speculate the reasons you want, but I don't know where it is written that said decision costs someone a right to vote. Granted, I would speculate that most people with out any type of voter ID are trying to conceal their identity for less than reputable reasons. Some will be legitimate no doubt.

I think they're targeting more than illegals though. They're targeting citizens without IDs which is pretty wrong I think. Nothing ever comes without strings it seems.

Now you are connecting the dots. Good job BFF!

You are right...nothing in this life is free...?

(but) For the Dems to call an attempt to install a preventive measure absurd is blatantly absurd.

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You are deflecting. That's the fluff.

Focus Teddy, Focus. The Repulsives want to install a proof of citizenship requirement for federal voting registration like they already have for state. The Demgenerates are attempting to block the protective measure.

If it's cold outside...do you dress for cold weather?

Every1 knows what Arizona thinks about illegals. Do you?

Accept the problem here is, it's 90 degrees out and the idiot Republicans are trying to get a law passed that would force everyone to wear parkas and mukluks. Voter fraud is not a problem. You can go on believing it is, but you would be wrong. There is no proof that voter fraud is a problem in this country, it really is that simple.

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This seems to be a theme, put measures in place to protect against a danger that doesn't really exist. Not a good way to run government if you want it to be small and inexpensive.

To the person who thinks it's clever to try to use moronic names to describe those who do not agree with you, you are wrong, it's not.

Refusing to use the spellchick!

I have put you on ignore. No really, I have, but you are still ruining my enjoyment of this site. .

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This seems to be a theme, put measures in place to protect against a danger that doesn't really exist. Not a good way to run government if you want it to be small and inexpensive.

To the person who thinks it's clever to try to use moronic names to describe those who do not agree with you, you are wrong, it's not.

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This seems to be a theme, put measures in place to protect against a danger that doesn't really exist. Not a good way to run government if you want it to be small and inexpensive.

To the person who thinks it's clever to try to use moronic names to describe those who do not agree with you, you are wrong, it's not.

That's a good point.. but who said the right to vote is cheap? & once it's installed...as pointed out by the Conciliator.. it's an easy process.

& Heyyyyy ...that 2nd comment was surely directed to me...What can I say (shrug) ...word association works for me. Live & let live. I'm not asking you to adopt the behavior. What happened to tolerance?

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Is voter fraud everywhere? Is it even a problem? I don't know of any large scale voter fraud cases ever being proven, do you? I'm sure you might get one or two stragglers here or there, but certainly nothing that depicts a large scale problem that requires a gov't fix. There's a lot of noise made by Republicans about voter fraud every election, but where are the proven cases that it even exists on any large scale?

Note: I am in favor of voter id laws, simply because I believe everyone should have a form of gov't issued identification to prove they are who they say they are, but voter fraud is not nearly the problem that Republicans want everyone to think it is.

Of course there's no problem that this costly nonsense would address. The problem only exists in their right wing echo chamber and since that is the reality they live in, they perceive it as a real threat. It's what's been hammered into their skulls and nothing will ever make them question what their thought masters told them.

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That's a good point.. but who said the right to vote is cheap? & once it's installed...as pointed out by the Conciliator.. it's an easy process.

& Heyyyyy ...that 2nd comment was surely directed to me...What can I say (shrug) ...word association works for me. Live & let live. I'm not asking you to adopt the behavior. What happened to tolerance?

I haven't reported it, that's very tolerant.

Refusing to use the spellchick!

I have put you on ignore. No really, I have, but you are still ruining my enjoyment of this site. .

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Accept the problem here is, it's 90 degrees out and the idiot Republicans are trying to get a law passed that would force everyone to wear parkas and mukluks. Voter fraud is not a problem. You can go on believing it is, but you would be wrong. There is no proof that voter fraud is a problem in this country, it really is that simple.

You don't own your own business do you.. it's rhetorical...coz you have no appreciation for risk management.

They used to say the world is flat. Are you a reincarnation?

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