High School Halts Publication of Honor Roll

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

How does ethnicity separate itself from culture? doesn;t ethnicity matter simply because it is part of culture?

Ethnicity is NOT part of culture, it's incidental to it.

A child born to Korean birth parents who was adopted by Americans and

raised in the U.S. shares no common culture with other Koreans, even if

her ethnicity happens to be "Korean".

Ethnicity is B.S.

Its not when you consider the current socio-economic breakdown of certain ethnicities and compare it against certain ethnic groups - specifically blacks and hispanics, who make up the overwhelming majority of America's poor...

Diversity programs are born out of the recognition that inequalities exist between ethnicities and while intelligent, talented people can succeed regardless of their background - the same is not true for everyone.

[Jenn! 918]

But diversifying by ethnicity is one of the easiest ways to diversify by the other things mentioned.

So you'd label a black person from Britain "African American"?

It may be the easiest way but it's wrong.

Ditto.

Yikes, of course I would never call a black person from Britain an African American. I thought you knew I wasn't stupid!

I'd bet that a black Brit has more in common with a white Brit though than he does with a black American. That's just a guess of course. I'd also bet that ethnic/cultural diversity is more "enlightening" than racial diversity.

[Caladan 19]

The school's not getting rid of the honor roll, just the publication of it in the newspaper, right?

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

The school's not getting rid of the honor roll, just the publication of it in the newspaper, right?

In other words - a storm in a teacup

[Fandango 1,439]

I want Colleges and Universities to treat everyone the exact same regardless of race.

How do you treat a wheelbound person and someone who can walk through the front door exactly the same as if that equals fairness? Is putting a ramp for the wheelchair person showing favoritism?

In the same context, what's wrong with a college to consider race among other things when admitting students for the sake of diversity? You don't think they consider other factors?

Not only that, many of the Ivy League colleges are notorious for nepotism - how do you suppose Dubbya got into Yale?

I'd still really like to know why you compared minorities to the physically handicapped.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

I want Colleges and Universities to treat everyone the exact same regardless of race.

How do you treat a wheelbound person and someone who can walk through the front door exactly the same as if that equals fairness? Is putting a ramp for the wheelchair person showing favoritism?

In the same context, what's wrong with a college to consider race among other things when admitting students for the sake of diversity? You don't think they consider other factors?

Not only that, many of the Ivy League colleges are notorious for nepotism - how do you suppose Dubbya got into Yale?

I'd still really like to know why you compared minorities to the physically handicapped.

At a guess - because certain minority groups have more socio-economic factors working against them than everyone else.

[Fandango 1,439]

I want Colleges and Universities to treat everyone the exact same regardless of race.

How do you treat a wheelbound person and someone who can walk through the front door exactly the same as if that equals fairness? Is putting a ramp for the wheelchair person showing favoritism?

In the same context, what's wrong with a college to consider race among other things when admitting students for the sake of diversity? You don't think they consider other factors?

Not only that, many of the Ivy League colleges are notorious for nepotism - how do you suppose Dubbya got into Yale?

I'd still really like to know why you compared minorities to the physically handicapped.

At a guess - because certain minority groups have more socio-economic factors working against them than everyone else.

doesn't mean jack in this day and age....many a people have put themselves thru college...it's not the unobtainable dream it was back in the day.

Comparing them to the handicapped is insulting, and tbh, quite racist in itself imo

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

I want Colleges and Universities to treat everyone the exact same regardless of race.

How do you treat a wheelbound person and someone who can walk through the front door exactly the same as if that equals fairness? Is putting a ramp for the wheelchair person showing favoritism?

In the same context, what's wrong with a college to consider race among other things when admitting students for the sake of diversity? You don't think they consider other factors?

Not only that, many of the Ivy League colleges are notorious for nepotism - how do you suppose Dubbya got into Yale?

I'd still really like to know why you compared minorities to the physically handicapped.

At a guess - because certain minority groups have more socio-economic factors working against them than everyone else.

doesn't mean jack in this day and age....many a people have put themselves thru college...it's not the unobtainable dream it was back in the day.

Comparing them to the handicapped is insulting, and tbh, quite racist in itself imo

It's not the best comparison, true - but I think the point being made is that certain minorities have more factors working against them than equivalent whites.

Certainly a person can achieve success regardless of their social/economic background, but I would argue it is more the exception than the rule. There's a reason why certain ethnic groups, specifically blacks and hispanics form the vast majority of the nations poor, and its equally racist to suggest that it is because they are "culturally lazy".

[Fandango 1,439]

I want Colleges and Universities to treat everyone the exact same regardless of race.

How do you treat a wheelbound person and someone who can walk through the front door exactly the same as if that equals fairness? Is putting a ramp for the wheelchair person showing favoritism?

In the same context, what's wrong with a college to consider race among other things when admitting students for the sake of diversity? You don't think they consider other factors?

Not only that, many of the Ivy League colleges are notorious for nepotism - how do you suppose Dubbya got into Yale?

I'd still really like to know why you compared minorities to the physically handicapped.

At a guess - because certain minority groups have more socio-economic factors working against them than everyone else.

doesn't mean jack in this day and age....many a people have put themselves thru college...it's not the unobtainable dream it was back in the day.

Comparing them to the handicapped is insulting, and tbh, quite racist in itself imo

It's not the best comparison, true - but I think the point being made is that certain minorities have more factors working against them than equivalent whites.

Certainly a person can achieve success regardless of their social/economic background, but I would argue it is more the exception than the rule. There's a reason why certain ethnic groups, specifically blacks and hispanics form the vast majority of the nations poor, and its equally racist to suggest that it is because they are "culturally lazy".

Who's worried about the poor whites who don't have 'the oppty' to go to college?

oh that's right, no one

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

I want Colleges and Universities to treat everyone the exact same regardless of race.

How do you treat a wheelbound person and someone who can walk through the front door exactly the same as if that equals fairness? Is putting a ramp for the wheelchair person showing favoritism?

In the same context, what's wrong with a college to consider race among other things when admitting students for the sake of diversity? You don't think they consider other factors?

Not only that, many of the Ivy League colleges are notorious for nepotism - how do you suppose Dubbya got into Yale?

I'd still really like to know why you compared minorities to the physically handicapped.

At a guess - because certain minority groups have more socio-economic factors working against them than everyone else.

doesn't mean jack in this day and age....many a people have put themselves thru college...it's not the unobtainable dream it was back in the day.

Comparing them to the handicapped is insulting, and tbh, quite racist in itself imo

It's not the best comparison, true - but I think the point being made is that certain minorities have more factors working against them than equivalent whites.

Certainly a person can achieve success regardless of their social/economic background, but I would argue it is more the exception than the rule. There's a reason why certain ethnic groups, specifically blacks and hispanics form the vast majority of the nations poor, and its equally racist to suggest that it is because they are "culturally lazy".

Who's worried about the poor whites who don't have 'the oppty' to go to college?

oh that's right, no one

How many whites are live at or below the poverty line?

How many blacks and hispanics live at or below the poverty line?

[Caladan 19]

Most of the admissions preferences at the top schools also try to recruit heavily from rural/poorer areas also for diversity.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Most of the admissions preferences at the top schools also try to recruit heavily from rural/poorer areas also for diversity.

Good point - "Diversity" isn't relegated merely to ethnic diversity.

[Ban Hammer 13,336]

How many whites are live at or below the poverty line?

How many blacks and hispanics live at or below the poverty line?

ah, so as long as they are white and a minor percentage of those below the poverty line (in other words a minority) they don't count.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

How many whites are live at or below the poverty line?

How many blacks and hispanics live at or below the poverty line?

ah, so as long as they are white and a minor percentage of those below the poverty line (in other words a minority) they don't count.

No. Because as someone else pointed out - diversity isn't just about ethnicity

[Fandango 1,439]

I want Colleges and Universities to treat everyone the exact same regardless of race.

How do you treat a wheelbound person and someone who can walk through the front door exactly the same as if that equals fairness? Is putting a ramp for the wheelchair person showing favoritism?

In the same context, what's wrong with a college to consider race among other things when admitting students for the sake of diversity? You don't think they consider other factors?

Not only that, many of the Ivy League colleges are notorious for nepotism - how do you suppose Dubbya got into Yale?

I'd still really like to know why you compared minorities to the physically handicapped.

At a guess - because certain minority groups have more socio-economic factors working against them than everyone else.

doesn't mean jack in this day and age....many a people have put themselves thru college...it's not the unobtainable dream it was back in the day.

Comparing them to the handicapped is insulting, and tbh, quite racist in itself imo

It's not the best comparison, true - but I think the point being made is that certain minorities have more factors working against them than equivalent whites.

Certainly a person can achieve success regardless of their social/economic background, but I would argue it is more the exception than the rule. There's a reason why certain ethnic groups, specifically blacks and hispanics form the vast majority of the nations poor, and its equally racist to suggest that it is because they are "culturally lazy".

Who's worried about the poor whites who don't have 'the oppty' to go to college?

oh that's right, no one

How many whites are live at or below the poverty line?

How many blacks and hispanics live at or below the poverty line?

Who cares how much % of each...if the goal is helping ppl...shouldn't that be for EVERYONE- regardless of race?

Oh wait, what am I thinking?