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I want Colleges and Universities to treat everyone the exact same regardless of race.

How do you treat a wheelbound person and someone who can walk through the front door exactly the same as if that equals fairness? Is putting a ramp for the wheelchair person showing favoritism?

In the same context, what's wrong with a college to consider race among other things when admitting students for the sake of diversity? You don't think they consider other factors?

Not only that, many of the Ivy League colleges are notorious for nepotism - how do you suppose Dubbya got into Yale?

So minorities are handicapped? :blink:

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I think the thought for some that affirmative action could be working to benefit the white man is too tough a pill to swallow. :yes:

I don't like it for any race. I want true equality.

So then what about legacy programs for example? Since they are naturally biased in terms of race, should they be abolished? Or maybe something else should be done to compensate?

Do away with legacy programs too. What's wrong with equality?

I wouldn't argue with abolishing legacy programs.

ETA: Easier said than done though when daddy donates a huge part of the annual fund.

Money does talk.

Neither of us is currently the Dictator of the USA. So I don't think things will change soon.

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In the same context, what's wrong with a college to consider race among other things when admitting students for the sake of diversity? You don't think they consider other factors?

Why do we "need" diversity?

It's part of what makes this country great is our diversity. And in the bigger context of things - nature seems to thrive best with diversity.

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In the same context, what's wrong with a college to consider race among other things when admitting students for the sake of diversity? You don't think they consider other factors?

Why do we "need" diversity?

It's part of what makes this country great is our diversity. And in the bigger context of things - nature seems to thrive best with diversity.

Nature doesn't force diversity.

"The fact that we are here today to debate raising America’s debt limit is a sign of leadership failure. It is a sign that the U.S. Government can’t pay its own bills. It is a sign that we now depend on ongoing financial assistance from foreign countries to finance our Government’s reckless fiscal policies."

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Why do we "need" diversity?

It's part of what makes this country great is our diversity. And in the bigger context of things - nature seems to thrive best with diversity.

Nature doesn't force diversity.

Indeed. Why should we go out of our way to "create" diversity? People are already naturally diverse,

and it is through tolerance that diversity survives. Tolerance is what makes this country great, not diversity.

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Why do we "need" diversity?

It's part of what makes this country great is our diversity. And in the bigger context of things - nature seems to thrive best with diversity.

Nature doesn't force diversity.

Indeed. Why should we go out of our way to "create" diversity? People are already naturally diverse,

and it is through tolerance that diversity survives. Tolerance is what makes this country great, not diversity.

Diversity in points of view, culture, ethnicity, abilities, experiences - you're telling me that doesn't contribute to the greatness of this country? Would you want to run a company of clones?

It's not going out of your way to promote diversity because without making a conscious effort, there is a tendency towards sameness.

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Why do we "need" diversity?

It's part of what makes this country great is our diversity. And in the bigger context of things - nature seems to thrive best with diversity.

Nature doesn't force diversity.

Indeed. Why should we go out of our way to "create" diversity? People are already naturally diverse,

and it is through tolerance that diversity survives. Tolerance is what makes this country great, not diversity.

Diversity in points of view, culture, ethnicity, abilities, experiences - you're telling me that doesn't contribute to the greatness of this country? Would you want to run a company of clones?

It's not going out of your way to promote diversity because without making a conscious effort, there is a tendency towards sameness.

Points of view, yes. Culture, yes. Abilities, experiences, yes.

Ethnicity - no. It makes no difference whatsoever.

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Why do we "need" diversity?

It's part of what makes this country great is our diversity. And in the bigger context of things - nature seems to thrive best with diversity.

Nature doesn't force diversity.

Indeed. Why should we go out of our way to "create" diversity? People are already naturally diverse,

and it is through tolerance that diversity survives. Tolerance is what makes this country great, not diversity.

Diversity in points of view, culture, ethnicity, abilities, experiences - you're telling me that doesn't contribute to the greatness of this country? Would you want to run a company of clones?

It's not going out of your way to promote diversity because without making a conscious effort, there is a tendency towards sameness.

Points of view, yes. Culture, yes. Abilities, experiences, yes.

Ethnicity - no. It makes no difference whatsoever.

But diversifying by ethnicity is one of the easiest ways to diversify by the other things mentioned.

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Why do we "need" diversity?

It's part of what makes this country great is our diversity. And in the bigger context of things - nature seems to thrive best with diversity.

Nature doesn't force diversity.

Indeed. Why should we go out of our way to "create" diversity? People are already naturally diverse,

and it is through tolerance that diversity survives. Tolerance is what makes this country great, not diversity.

Diversity in points of view, culture, ethnicity, abilities, experiences - you're telling me that doesn't contribute to the greatness of this country? Would you want to run a company of clones?

It's not going out of your way to promote diversity because without making a conscious effort, there is a tendency towards sameness.

Points of view, yes. Culture, yes. Abilities, experiences, yes.

Ethnicity - no. It makes no difference whatsoever.

How does ethnicity separate itself from culture? doesn;t ethnicity matter simply because it is part of culture?

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But diversifying by ethnicity is one of the easiest ways to diversify by the other things mentioned.

So you'd label a black person from Britain "African American"?

It may be the easiest way but it's wrong.

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But diversifying by ethnicity is one of the easiest ways to diversify by the other things mentioned.

So you'd label a black person from Britain "African American"?

It may be the easiest way but it's wrong.

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How does ethnicity separate itself from culture? doesn;t ethnicity matter simply because it is part of culture?

Ethnicity is NOT part of culture, it's incidental to it.

A child born to Korean birth parents who was adopted by Americans and

raised in the U.S. shares no common culture with other Koreans, even if

her ethnicity happens to be "Korean".

Ethnicity is B.S.

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How does ethnicity separate itself from culture? doesn;t ethnicity matter simply because it is part of culture?

Ethnicity is NOT part of culture, it's incidental to it.

A child born to Korean birth parents who was adopted by Americans and

raised in the U.S. shares no common culture with other Koreans, even if

her ethnicity happens to be "Korean".

Ethnicity is B.S.

You're defining ethnicity like it's synonymous with race. It's not.

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How does ethnicity separate itself from culture? doesn;t ethnicity matter simply because it is part of culture?

Ethnicity is NOT part of culture, it's incidental to it.

A child born to Korean birth parents who was adopted by Americans and

raised in the U.S. shares no common culture with other Koreans, even if

her ethnicity happens to be "Korean".

Ethnicity is B.S.

You're defining ethnicity like it's synonymous with race. It's not.

Well actually, yes, I meant "race" not "ethnicity", which is exactly what Steven meant too:

In the same context, what's wrong with a college to consider race among other things when admitting students for the sake of diversity? You don't think they consider other factors?
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How does ethnicity separate itself from culture? doesn;t ethnicity matter simply because it is part of culture?

Ethnicity is NOT part of culture, it's incidental to it.

A child born to Korean birth parents who was adopted by Americans and

raised in the U.S. shares no common culture with other Koreans, even if

her ethnicity happens to be "Korean".

Ethnicity is B.S.

You're defining ethnicity like it's synonymous with race. It's not.

Well actually, yes, I meant "race" not "ethnicity", which is exactly what Steven meant too:

In the same context, what's wrong with a college to consider race among other things when admitting students for the sake of diversity? You don't think they consider other factors?

Unfortunately people aren't blind and they do discriminate people by their appearance. Particularly in the case of those brown skinned who are statistically passed up more for jobs, promotions, they get paid less, etc., etc..

So again, what's wrong with a college considering that factor when choosing students? Not as quotas or a way to 'get back' for discrimination but by considering the person's race as a way of diversifying the the student body?

In an ideal world, people wouldn't treat you differently because of the color of your skin, but history and statistics say otherwise.

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