Visiting Other Countries On VWP If Denied In U.S.?

[ms514 0]

Hi:

I was planning to take a trip to Canada with my wife. She was denied a visitor visa when she went to apply in person at the U.S. Embassy in London. Does this denial have any impact on her traveling to other countries on the VWP? Would she be denied entry or raise suspicion at the Canadian POE if we were to go visit Canada?

Thanks in advance.

[Yodrak 7]

ms,

Your question does not make sense. Why would your wife apply for a visa to visit Canada at a US consulate?

Yodrak

Hi:

I was planning to take a trip to Canada with my wife. She was denied a visitor visa when she went to apply in person at the U.S. Embassy in London. Does this denial have any impact on her traveling to other countries on the VWP? Would she be denied entry or raise suspicion at the Canadian POE if we were to go visit Canada?

Thanks in advance.

[Reba 2]

If she is a UK citizen she does not need a visa to visit Canada.

Many people do not require a visa to visit Canada. These include:

citizens of Andorra, Antigua and Barbuda, Australia, Austria, Bahamas, Barbados, Belgium, Botswana, Brunei, Cyprus, Denmark, Estonia, Finland, France, Germany, Greece, Iceland, Ireland, Israel (National Passport holders only), Italy, Japan, Liechtenstein, Luxembourg, Malta, Mexico, Monaco, Namibia, Netherlands, New Zealand, Norway, Papua New Guinea, Portugal, Republic of Korea, St. Kitts and Nevis, St. Lucia, St. Vincent, San Marino, Singapore, Solomon Islands, Spain, Swaziland, Sweden, Slovenia, Switzerland, United States, and Western Samoa;

persons lawfully admitted to the United States for permanent residence who are in possession of their alien registration card (Green card) or can provide other evidence of permanent residence.

British citizens and British Overseas Citizens who are re-admissible to the United Kingdom;

citizens of British dependent territories who derive their citizenship through birth, descent, registration or naturalization in one of the British dependent territories of Anguilla, Bermuda, British Virgin Islands, Cayman Islands, Falkland Islands, Gibraltar, Montserrat, Pitcairn, St. Helena or the Turks and Caicos Islands;

persons holding a valid and subsisting Special Administrative Region passport issued by the Government of the Hong Kong Special Administrative Region of the People’s Republic of China;

persons holding passports or travel documents issued by the Holy See.

from http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/visit/visas.html

[CutienPurg 0]

Since we're taking stabs at what was intended by this post , lemme throw my summation into the mix........

What I gathered is, MS's wife applied for a visitors visa to come to the US but was denied based on her current immigration /pending status. So now they want to take a trip to Canada and he's wondering if her denial for a visitors visa by the US will affect her ability to visit Canada. As in will the Canadian immigration officer know she was denied a visitors visa to the US and turn her away.

Well ? How'd I do?

[desert_fox 32]

Since we're taking stabs at what was intended by this post , lemme throw my summation into the mix........

What I gathered is, MS's wife applied for a visitors visa to come to the US but was denied based on her current immigration /pending status. So now they want to take a trip to Canada and he's wondering if her denial for a visitors visa by the US will affect her ability to visit Canada. As in will the Canadian immigration officer know she was denied a visitors visa to the US and turn her away.

Well ? How'd I do?

pretty good. But I dont understand why one would apply for a visitors visa to come to the US if he/she is eligible to enter under the VWP??

Also. the term VWP is only applies to people coming to the US from certain countries...to enter Canada...the term VWP would not even apply....it would be what they call it in Canada.

[ms514 0]

CutienPurg gets the prize. Reason for applying for a visitor's visa was so that she could stay 6 months straight instead of going back after 3 months and then re-entering the country.

I was under the impression that the Visa Waiver Program was an international agreement between various countries to allow citizens from each other's homelands to go and visit participating countries. Perhaps I am under a false impression..

Now, to complicate matters...what would a visitor from the U.K. have to submit as documentation at the POE? I would assume passport and if so, would a visitor visa denial from another country cause issues?

[payxibka 10,047]

CutienPurg gets the prize. Reason for applying for a visitor's visa was so that she could stay 6 months straight instead of going back after 3 months and then re-entering the country.

I was under the impression that the Visa Waiver Program was an international agreement between various countries to allow citizens from each other's homelands to go and visit participating countries. Perhaps I am under a false impression..

Now, to complicate matters...what would a visitor from the U.K. have to submit as documentation at the POE? I would assume passport and if so, would a visitor visa denial from another country cause issues?

How would a POE officer be informed of a visa denial from another country?

[ms514 0]

Yes...I think I am mistaken that the VWP is some sort of grand international program. Though I am intrugied by fwaguy's comment...does your complete international profile show up when you swipe an electronic passport...I wonder if a POE officer from Canada or anywhere else can see the visa approvals and denials of other countries.

Maybe I am being a bit too cautious...but the last thing I would want is to book a trip to Canada with my wife and have her denied entry because someone in the U.S. thought my wife didn't need to visit her husband.

[desert_fox 32]

CutienPurg gets the prize. Reason for applying for a visitor's visa was so that she could stay 6 months straight instead of going back after 3 months and then re-entering the country.

I was under the impression that the Visa Waiver Program was an international agreement between various countries to allow citizens from each other's homelands to go and visit participating countries. Perhaps I am under a false impression..

Now, to complicate matters...what would a visitor from the U.K. have to submit as documentation at the POE? I would assume passport and if so, would a visitor visa denial from another country cause issues?

I think that the VWP is an agreement between the US and some other 27 countries that allow visa free travel between the two.

How other countries treat each other has nothing to do with the VWP....in Europe they use their EU agreements....dont think its called the VWP.

[featherB 1]

Yup, as far as I know, the VWP involves an agreement between the USA and the participating countries re: visa-free travel (for those who meet the requirements) to the US - even though you wouldn't need a visa to travel between many/most of the VWP countries if you were a citizen of one of them, that's down to the fact that many of them are part of the EU or the EEA, for example, and nothing to do with the fact that they participate in the United States' Visa Waiver Program.

[payxibka 10,047]

Yes...I think I am mistaken that the VWP is some sort of grand international program. Though I am intrugied by fwaguy's comment...does your complete international profile show up when you swipe an electronic passport...I wonder if a POE officer from Canada or anywhere else can see the visa approvals and denials of other countries.

Maybe I am being a bit too cautious...but the last thing I would want is to book a trip to Canada with my wife and have her denied entry because someone in the U.S. thought my wife didn't need to visit her husband.

If being denied a visa to one particular country will forever prevent somebody from doing any kind of international travel is really a far fetched thought. Each country has its own entrance requirements and what the US does has no bearing on what Canada or any other nation does. Each country is autonomous.

[ms514 0]

I thank you all for your input...and thank the existence of this website, which has helped me in soooo many ways.

[G&C 0]

A non-US citizen denied a visa by the US Government will have such identified by a stamp in the back of the passport. I know for a fact that some Canadian embassies will call the the US embassy (of whichever country you are in) and ask them why the visa was denied. Chances are that Canada will deny the visa for the same reason (although they do not have to gicve a reason).

Now as to a Canadian Immigration Officer at a POE, IF they looked (that is the only uncertainty), would see the US visa denial stamp, and they would almost most certainly send you for secondary processing which would also cause someone to call/contact the US government to find out why the US denied a visa.

Yes...I think I am mistaken that the VWP is some sort of grand international program. Though I am intrugied by fwaguy's comment...does your complete international profile show up when you swipe an electronic passport...I wonder if a POE officer from Canada or anywhere else can see the visa approvals and denials of other countries.

Maybe I am being a bit too cautious...but the last thing I would want is to book a trip to Canada with my wife and have her denied entry because someone in the U.S. thought my wife didn't need to visit her husband.