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Thanks everybody for your replies and sharing your opinions and experiences. Pretty much everybody made a good point and you are helping me with the decision-making process. I wish I could respond to every single post individually.

I think if I knew for sure that he cheated physically, I probably would have left right away.

Knowing how he ticks though, there is a great possibility that he only used these contacts for kicks/ as virtual turn-ons, kind of like porn, but did not act it out.

Still, even if he didn´t sleep with anyone, what he did was a form of cheating and there is no excuse. I was lonely too, but I stayed faithful. All I could think of is being with him and starting our new life.

I do think though that there is a difference between fantasizing and acting upon those fantasies. I think if he really didn´t have sex with anyone, there is a chance that I could work things out with him if he sought professional help. But how will I ever know what he did or did not do?!

It´s been over a week since I found out and I am still here. I did not want to leave out of haste with a decision made out of anger and shock. I just cannot accept that we invested so much time and effort into this just to give up easily. I think I need a little more time to figure out whether I want to stay or leave.

One other member suggested that I could use the remaining time of my visa and stay here and observe. His first counseling session is this coming week. He gave me permission to look through his computer and phone at any time. I want to see what efforts he will make to keep me here and fix this.

If I find out anything else or I realize that it´s too painful for me and my mind goes crazy with suspicious thoughts, I will leave.

Thanks again, guys.

Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Australia
Timeline
Posted

The big problem here is that things got a little tough for him and who did he turn to? Not you - he went to some random woman from the internet. Marriage is never smooth sailing... what's he going to do when he thinks things are 'getting tough' later on? If you got sick, one of you had employment difficulties, you had a regular old-fashioned fight, etc etc. Marriage is a serious commitment, and it doesn't seem like he's ready to make it, visa or no visa.

Karen - Melbourne, Australia/John - Florida, USA

- Proposal (20 August 2000) to marriage (19 December 2004) - 4 years, 3 months, 25 days (1,578 days)

STAGE 1 - Applying for K1 (15 September 2003) to K1 Approval (13 July 2004) - 9 months, 29 days (303 days)

STAGE 2A - Arriving in US (4 Nov 2004) to AOS Application (16 April 2005) - 5 months, 13 days (164 days)

STAGE 2B - Applying for AOS to GC Approval - 9 months, 4 days (279 days)

STAGE 3 - Lifting Conditions. Filing (19 Dec 2007) to Approval (December 11 2008)

STAGE 4 - CITIZENSHIP (filing under 5-year rule - residency start date on green card Jan 11th, 2006)

*N400 filed December 15, 2011

*Interview March 12, 2012

*Oath Ceremony March 23, 2012.

ALL DONE!!!!!!!!

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I said, what give you the right to control and make demand of him right of the bat, regardless of what he was doing while you were gone, u two at time have not, and I said "HAVE NOT" yet marry, he was honest and told you the truth ( he wasn't involve in any physical sex with any one, and he was lonely), so there, if i was him I said, it's a free world, go home anytime you like.

Filed: AOS (apr) Country: Cyprus
Timeline
Posted

I also believe if the CO would have known about his play dates with other women online and offline the OP would have never received

the visa for which we all go through hell for to cross all t's and dot all i's.

What if it was the beneficiary seeking other men online in ads ?

Then everyone would have screamed scam.

But some comments are watered down because it's the USC acting selfish with his sex seeking ads.

It is not genuine love on his part and what is bona fide about his behavior ? Nothing.

What's done is done and only the OP can decide her future destiny.

The OP deserves better after leaving everything behind and giving up her life in her home country...... for what ?!

Put yourself in her shoes instead of trying to stand in his.

This should be the happiest time of her life not the nightmare that it is.
And no, Fafoo I don't know the guy but we all respond to what we read in the written post, including you.

What I read....sex ads on craigslist, online women etc. was enough for me to form my opinion, I don't have to know more.

Spoiler

 

I-129F Sent : 3-31-2014, NOA2: 4-6-2014

NVC Received : some dinkelsberry yehoo in the house of clingons send our petition to the wrong consulate.

Consulate Received : July 30,2014 Transfer to right embassy complete.

Interview Date : Oct 22, 2014

Interview Result : AP , requesting another PC (not expired) and certified divorce decree (was submitted)Stokes interview via phone for petitioner 4 hrs after interview.

Oct 23 email notification visa approved.
Visa Received : Nov. 3 , 2014 VISA IN HAND.

US Entry : Nov. 21, 2014

Marriage : Dec 27, 2014

AOS send : May 12, 2015, received May 14, 2015 USPS priority

Email &text : May 18, 2015, check cashed May 19,2015, return receipt May 21, 2015 stamped USCIS Lockbox, NOA1 (3x) May 22,2015

Biometrics : June 1, 2015 letter received for appointment June 8, 2015, successful walk-in June 1, 2015

RFE : June 12, 2015 for income not meeting guideline. Income does ( ! ) exceed guideline.

RFE response : June 26, 2015 returned with a boat load full of financial evidence.

UPDATE: July 5, 2015 updated on all 3 cases, RFE received June 30, 2015.

Service request : Aug 12, 2015, letter received that it will be processed within 90 days from receipt of RFE.

UPDATE: Aug 24, 2015, EAD card being produced/ordered. ( 102 days from AOS receipt day and 55 days from RFE response received.) Thank you Jesus !

Emails : Aug 24, 2015, EAD approved, EAD card ordered.

I-797 EAD/AP approval notice received : Aug 27, 2015

EAD/AP combo card mailed : Aug 27, 2015, EAD/AP combo card received: Aug 31, 2015

Renewal application send for EAD/AP : May 31,2016 (AOS pending over 1 year). Received June 2, 2016,Notice date June7, 2016, emails,texts, NOA1 hard copy

Service request for pending AOS April 21, 2016, case not assigned yet.
Service request for pending AOS June 14, 2016, tier 2 said performing background checks.
Expedite request for EAD/AP Aug 3, 2016, Aug10 notification >request was received, assigned, completed. RFE letter requesting evidence for expedite, docs faxed Aug18

*Service request for I-485 Aug 3, 2016, Aug11 notification> request was assigned. Service request Dec 2, 2016.
AOS Interview letter received Aug 12, 2016

AOS Interview September 21, 2016.

Second Biometrics appointment letters received for EAD and AOS on Aug 15, 2016 for Aug 17 ( 2 day notice).

Second Biometrics completed Aug 17, 2016

Third Biometrics appointment letter received Aug 19, 2016 for Sept. 1, 2016. WTH ?!

EAD/AP (renewal) approval Aug 22, 2016, NOA2 received Aug 25, 2016

Renewal EAD in production notification text and online, expedite successful 4 days after RFE request response was faxed, Aug25mailed,Aug29received.

Sept. 21 Interview, 2 hour interview, we were separated and asked about 50 questions each for an hour each. IO was firm but professional, some smiles.
Several service requests made, contacted Senator and Ombudsman. Background checks still pending.
July 21, 2017 HOME VISIT.  Went well. Topic thread in AOS forum.
Waiting to skip ROC and get 10 yr GC due to over 2 year while pending AOS
AOS APPROVED Oct. 4, 2017 * Green card in hand Oct 13, 2017 !!!!!

First K1 denied after 16 month of AP. Refiled. We are a couple since 2009. Not a sprint but a matter of endurance.

 

Filed: AOS (apr) Country: Cyprus
Timeline
Posted

I said, what give you the right to control and make demand of him right of the bat, regardless of what he was doing while you were gone, u two at time have not, and I said "HAVE NOT" yet marry, he was honest and told you the truth ( he wasn't involve in any physical sex with any one, and he was lonely), so there, if i was him I said, it's a free world, go home anytime you like.

The K1 visa is not a free for all players delight type of visa but as an engaged couple with intent to marry one expects

a certain degree of integrity from their petitioner. The mere fact that he proposed gives her the right. Period.

What are you talking about she is "making demands of him ? " So what if he was lonely ? He can't call her ? Give me a break !

Spoiler

 

I-129F Sent : 3-31-2014, NOA2: 4-6-2014

NVC Received : some dinkelsberry yehoo in the house of clingons send our petition to the wrong consulate.

Consulate Received : July 30,2014 Transfer to right embassy complete.

Interview Date : Oct 22, 2014

Interview Result : AP , requesting another PC (not expired) and certified divorce decree (was submitted)Stokes interview via phone for petitioner 4 hrs after interview.

Oct 23 email notification visa approved.
Visa Received : Nov. 3 , 2014 VISA IN HAND.

US Entry : Nov. 21, 2014

Marriage : Dec 27, 2014

AOS send : May 12, 2015, received May 14, 2015 USPS priority

Email &text : May 18, 2015, check cashed May 19,2015, return receipt May 21, 2015 stamped USCIS Lockbox, NOA1 (3x) May 22,2015

Biometrics : June 1, 2015 letter received for appointment June 8, 2015, successful walk-in June 1, 2015

RFE : June 12, 2015 for income not meeting guideline. Income does ( ! ) exceed guideline.

RFE response : June 26, 2015 returned with a boat load full of financial evidence.

UPDATE: July 5, 2015 updated on all 3 cases, RFE received June 30, 2015.

Service request : Aug 12, 2015, letter received that it will be processed within 90 days from receipt of RFE.

UPDATE: Aug 24, 2015, EAD card being produced/ordered. ( 102 days from AOS receipt day and 55 days from RFE response received.) Thank you Jesus !

Emails : Aug 24, 2015, EAD approved, EAD card ordered.

I-797 EAD/AP approval notice received : Aug 27, 2015

EAD/AP combo card mailed : Aug 27, 2015, EAD/AP combo card received: Aug 31, 2015

Renewal application send for EAD/AP : May 31,2016 (AOS pending over 1 year). Received June 2, 2016,Notice date June7, 2016, emails,texts, NOA1 hard copy

Service request for pending AOS April 21, 2016, case not assigned yet.
Service request for pending AOS June 14, 2016, tier 2 said performing background checks.
Expedite request for EAD/AP Aug 3, 2016, Aug10 notification >request was received, assigned, completed. RFE letter requesting evidence for expedite, docs faxed Aug18

*Service request for I-485 Aug 3, 2016, Aug11 notification> request was assigned. Service request Dec 2, 2016.
AOS Interview letter received Aug 12, 2016

AOS Interview September 21, 2016.

Second Biometrics appointment letters received for EAD and AOS on Aug 15, 2016 for Aug 17 ( 2 day notice).

Second Biometrics completed Aug 17, 2016

Third Biometrics appointment letter received Aug 19, 2016 for Sept. 1, 2016. WTH ?!

EAD/AP (renewal) approval Aug 22, 2016, NOA2 received Aug 25, 2016

Renewal EAD in production notification text and online, expedite successful 4 days after RFE request response was faxed, Aug25mailed,Aug29received.

Sept. 21 Interview, 2 hour interview, we were separated and asked about 50 questions each for an hour each. IO was firm but professional, some smiles.
Several service requests made, contacted Senator and Ombudsman. Background checks still pending.
July 21, 2017 HOME VISIT.  Went well. Topic thread in AOS forum.
Waiting to skip ROC and get 10 yr GC due to over 2 year while pending AOS
AOS APPROVED Oct. 4, 2017 * Green card in hand Oct 13, 2017 !!!!!

First K1 denied after 16 month of AP. Refiled. We are a couple since 2009. Not a sprint but a matter of endurance.

 

Filed: AOS (apr) Country: Cyprus
Timeline
Posted

So, we seem to have a double standard going here for USC petitioners and for beneficiaries.
It's just a lonely good old guy slipping when he is a USC seeking sex online but a scammer when it's the beneficiary !

All of a sudden it's ok to place ads seeking sex, taking women's emails out of loneliness just because your fiance is not yet here ?

Really ?

Nonsense.

In reference to xgrnberet1 comment and Gowon's like of the same. Try explaining that to a CO in an interview if discovered.
SMH.

Spoiler

 

I-129F Sent : 3-31-2014, NOA2: 4-6-2014

NVC Received : some dinkelsberry yehoo in the house of clingons send our petition to the wrong consulate.

Consulate Received : July 30,2014 Transfer to right embassy complete.

Interview Date : Oct 22, 2014

Interview Result : AP , requesting another PC (not expired) and certified divorce decree (was submitted)Stokes interview via phone for petitioner 4 hrs after interview.

Oct 23 email notification visa approved.
Visa Received : Nov. 3 , 2014 VISA IN HAND.

US Entry : Nov. 21, 2014

Marriage : Dec 27, 2014

AOS send : May 12, 2015, received May 14, 2015 USPS priority

Email &text : May 18, 2015, check cashed May 19,2015, return receipt May 21, 2015 stamped USCIS Lockbox, NOA1 (3x) May 22,2015

Biometrics : June 1, 2015 letter received for appointment June 8, 2015, successful walk-in June 1, 2015

RFE : June 12, 2015 for income not meeting guideline. Income does ( ! ) exceed guideline.

RFE response : June 26, 2015 returned with a boat load full of financial evidence.

UPDATE: July 5, 2015 updated on all 3 cases, RFE received June 30, 2015.

Service request : Aug 12, 2015, letter received that it will be processed within 90 days from receipt of RFE.

UPDATE: Aug 24, 2015, EAD card being produced/ordered. ( 102 days from AOS receipt day and 55 days from RFE response received.) Thank you Jesus !

Emails : Aug 24, 2015, EAD approved, EAD card ordered.

I-797 EAD/AP approval notice received : Aug 27, 2015

EAD/AP combo card mailed : Aug 27, 2015, EAD/AP combo card received: Aug 31, 2015

Renewal application send for EAD/AP : May 31,2016 (AOS pending over 1 year). Received June 2, 2016,Notice date June7, 2016, emails,texts, NOA1 hard copy

Service request for pending AOS April 21, 2016, case not assigned yet.
Service request for pending AOS June 14, 2016, tier 2 said performing background checks.
Expedite request for EAD/AP Aug 3, 2016, Aug10 notification >request was received, assigned, completed. RFE letter requesting evidence for expedite, docs faxed Aug18

*Service request for I-485 Aug 3, 2016, Aug11 notification> request was assigned. Service request Dec 2, 2016.
AOS Interview letter received Aug 12, 2016

AOS Interview September 21, 2016.

Second Biometrics appointment letters received for EAD and AOS on Aug 15, 2016 for Aug 17 ( 2 day notice).

Second Biometrics completed Aug 17, 2016

Third Biometrics appointment letter received Aug 19, 2016 for Sept. 1, 2016. WTH ?!

EAD/AP (renewal) approval Aug 22, 2016, NOA2 received Aug 25, 2016

Renewal EAD in production notification text and online, expedite successful 4 days after RFE request response was faxed, Aug25mailed,Aug29received.

Sept. 21 Interview, 2 hour interview, we were separated and asked about 50 questions each for an hour each. IO was firm but professional, some smiles.
Several service requests made, contacted Senator and Ombudsman. Background checks still pending.
July 21, 2017 HOME VISIT.  Went well. Topic thread in AOS forum.
Waiting to skip ROC and get 10 yr GC due to over 2 year while pending AOS
AOS APPROVED Oct. 4, 2017 * Green card in hand Oct 13, 2017 !!!!!

First K1 denied after 16 month of AP. Refiled. We are a couple since 2009. Not a sprint but a matter of endurance.

 

Filed: AOS (apr) Country: Cyprus
Timeline
Posted

Thanks everybody for your replies and sharing your opinions and experiences. Pretty much everybody made a good point and you are helping me with the decision-making process. I wish I could respond to every single post individually.

I think if I knew for sure that he cheated physically, I probably would have left right away.

Knowing how he ticks though, there is a great possibility that he only used these contacts for kicks/ as virtual turn-ons, kind of like porn, but did not act it out.

Still, even if he didn´t sleep with anyone, what he did was a form of cheating and there is no excuse. I was lonely too, but I stayed faithful. All I could think of is being with him and starting our new life.

I do think though that there is a difference between fantasizing and acting upon those fantasies. I think if he really didn´t have sex with anyone, there is a chance that I could work things out with him if he sought professional help. But how will I ever know what he did or did not do?!

It´s been over a week since I found out and I am still here. I did not want to leave out of haste with a decision made out of anger and shock. I just cannot accept that we invested so much time and effort into this just to give up easily. I think I need a little more time to figure out whether I want to stay or leave.

One other member suggested that I could use the remaining time of my visa and stay here and observe. His first counseling session is this coming week. He gave me permission to look through his computer and phone at any time. I want to see what efforts he will make to keep me here and fix this.

If I find out anything else or I realize that it´s too painful for me and my mind goes crazy with suspicious thoughts, I will leave.

Thanks again, guys.

I am glad he offered you a bit of transparency with his computer and phone. It is called being accountable and a small step in the right

direction.

I wish you the best in your decision with counseling.

I am so sorry you have to go through all this.

You seem like a beautiful person and I hope he appreciates you as you deserve to be honored, cherished and appreciated.rose.gif

Spoiler

 

I-129F Sent : 3-31-2014, NOA2: 4-6-2014

NVC Received : some dinkelsberry yehoo in the house of clingons send our petition to the wrong consulate.

Consulate Received : July 30,2014 Transfer to right embassy complete.

Interview Date : Oct 22, 2014

Interview Result : AP , requesting another PC (not expired) and certified divorce decree (was submitted)Stokes interview via phone for petitioner 4 hrs after interview.

Oct 23 email notification visa approved.
Visa Received : Nov. 3 , 2014 VISA IN HAND.

US Entry : Nov. 21, 2014

Marriage : Dec 27, 2014

AOS send : May 12, 2015, received May 14, 2015 USPS priority

Email &text : May 18, 2015, check cashed May 19,2015, return receipt May 21, 2015 stamped USCIS Lockbox, NOA1 (3x) May 22,2015

Biometrics : June 1, 2015 letter received for appointment June 8, 2015, successful walk-in June 1, 2015

RFE : June 12, 2015 for income not meeting guideline. Income does ( ! ) exceed guideline.

RFE response : June 26, 2015 returned with a boat load full of financial evidence.

UPDATE: July 5, 2015 updated on all 3 cases, RFE received June 30, 2015.

Service request : Aug 12, 2015, letter received that it will be processed within 90 days from receipt of RFE.

UPDATE: Aug 24, 2015, EAD card being produced/ordered. ( 102 days from AOS receipt day and 55 days from RFE response received.) Thank you Jesus !

Emails : Aug 24, 2015, EAD approved, EAD card ordered.

I-797 EAD/AP approval notice received : Aug 27, 2015

EAD/AP combo card mailed : Aug 27, 2015, EAD/AP combo card received: Aug 31, 2015

Renewal application send for EAD/AP : May 31,2016 (AOS pending over 1 year). Received June 2, 2016,Notice date June7, 2016, emails,texts, NOA1 hard copy

Service request for pending AOS April 21, 2016, case not assigned yet.
Service request for pending AOS June 14, 2016, tier 2 said performing background checks.
Expedite request for EAD/AP Aug 3, 2016, Aug10 notification >request was received, assigned, completed. RFE letter requesting evidence for expedite, docs faxed Aug18

*Service request for I-485 Aug 3, 2016, Aug11 notification> request was assigned. Service request Dec 2, 2016.
AOS Interview letter received Aug 12, 2016

AOS Interview September 21, 2016.

Second Biometrics appointment letters received for EAD and AOS on Aug 15, 2016 for Aug 17 ( 2 day notice).

Second Biometrics completed Aug 17, 2016

Third Biometrics appointment letter received Aug 19, 2016 for Sept. 1, 2016. WTH ?!

EAD/AP (renewal) approval Aug 22, 2016, NOA2 received Aug 25, 2016

Renewal EAD in production notification text and online, expedite successful 4 days after RFE request response was faxed, Aug25mailed,Aug29received.

Sept. 21 Interview, 2 hour interview, we were separated and asked about 50 questions each for an hour each. IO was firm but professional, some smiles.
Several service requests made, contacted Senator and Ombudsman. Background checks still pending.
July 21, 2017 HOME VISIT.  Went well. Topic thread in AOS forum.
Waiting to skip ROC and get 10 yr GC due to over 2 year while pending AOS
AOS APPROVED Oct. 4, 2017 * Green card in hand Oct 13, 2017 !!!!!

First K1 denied after 16 month of AP. Refiled. We are a couple since 2009. Not a sprint but a matter of endurance.

 

Filed: Timeline
Posted

I am glad he offered you a bit of transparency with his computer and phone. It is called being accountable and a small step in the right

direction.

I wish you the best in your decision with counseling.

I am so sorry you have to go through all this.

You seem like a beautiful person and I hope he appreciates you as you deserve to be honored, cherished and appreciated.rose.gif

Thank you for your kind words and for standing up for me against this insensitive person that posted on here earlier.

Filed: Timeline
Posted

So, we seem to have a double standard going here for USC petitioners and for beneficiaries.

It's just a lonely good old guy slipping when he is a USC seeking sex online but a scammer when it's the beneficiary !

All of a sudden it's ok to place ads seeking sex, taking women's emails out of loneliness just because your fiance is not yet here ?

Really ?

Nonsense.

In reference to xgrnberet1 comment and Gowon's like of the same. Try explaining that to a CO in an interview if discovered.

SMH.

Just to clarify:

I never once said that what the OP allege that her SO did was decent. It's one thing if she knew and was in agreement but she had no clue.

As far as CO and stuff, I kinda thing we need to place our own individual morality above the visa requirements, I know I did.

It's not the right thing that OPs SO did (IMHO), and it doesn't matter if it was pre, during or after the VisaJourney to me.

Is OPs SO a dirtbag, no he's not. He's human. Just like a past sitting President of the United States. Should she turn tail and go back home? Only she can decide that, but she doesn't have to as this can be worked out if they both want to.

Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Philippines
Timeline
Posted

To VanessaTony!

You contradict yourself with your post. I have proved that once a cheater always a cheater is not accurate. I would admit, that if you or me cheated on our husband or wife we have NOW, then YES we probably would again.

I was a terrible cheater in a former marriage, but so was she,..,,..,.so it is true in that case, but NOW no way in the world would I cheat on my wife..,never, so I was a cheater, but am not now.,.,.so the old saying is totally FALSE!

Filed: K-1 Visa Country: United Kingdom
Timeline
Posted

People have weak moments. But at some point enough is enough. I would go back home. If you still want to be with him, you need to make him earn your trust back, and that may take some time. The ball is in your court. If he wants to make it work, he will. And if he doesn't, then you would have spent no more money on him. I hope things get better for you, but remember to be strong, and make him work for it.

Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Philippines
Timeline
Posted

I vote (Is voting allowed?) -

--do not marry

--go back to your home country

--use your apartment sale proceeds to start over.

+1

8/16/2013 I-129F Package Sent

8/23/2013 NOA1 Email

8/29/2013 NOA Hard Copy

9/17/2013 A# Changed

10/23/2013 NOA2 email

10/30/2013 NOA2 Hard Copy (Mail)

11/7/2013 Got a notification stating our case has been forwarded to the NVC

11/15/2013 Got my Case Number from NVC

12/17 and 12/18 2013 Medical Exam (PASSED)

01/16/2014 Interview (Approved)

03/14/2014 CFO Seminar (Got my sticker the same day. yay!)

“I’ve learned that waiting is the most difficult bit, and I want to get used to the feeling, knowing that you’re with me, even when you’re not by my side.”

― Paulo Coelho, Eleven Minutes
 
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