Visa Denied - US Consulate Mumbai

[AFT...Ths 1]

Letters of intent to marry each other?

This reminds me of me in November last year.

Gowon, I read your footer about getting denied a k-1 and then opting to do a spousal visa. Can you tell me how much time you spent together, "face time" before you got married? I am thinking I will go to India in Dec and get married, but I am so afraid of getting denied again.

[mariepear 12]

How does the CO/ USCIS distinguish between a fiancee relationship and a romantic relationship/ dating to establish their length/duration? (e.g. So someone may be dating someone from say Feb 2012 to Dec 2012 but may have propositioned in let's say Jan 2013.. so how are these "events" established for CO/USCIS?)

I don't understand what your question is...

[AFT...Ths 1]

Gowon, I read your footer about getting denied a k-1 and then opting to do a spousal visa. Can you tell me how much time you spent together, "face time" before you got married? I am thinking I will go to India in Dec and get married, but I am so afraid of getting denied again.

And yes, we both of our letters of intent were included.

[AFT...Ths 1]

Ok, another question?

Why for the CR1 is does not ask for or require:

• Proof of relationship, or
• PCC

Thanks in advance.

[del-2-5-2014 1,339]

Gowon, I read your footer about getting denied a k-1 and then opting to do a spousal visa. Can you tell me how much time you spent together, "face time" before you got married? I am thinking I will go to India in Dec and get married, but I am so afraid of getting denied again.

Short answer = 5 weeks facetime. Thousands in RebTel fees though, I have the receipts and I want a TShirt from them actually.

My case is somewhat different as far as immigration goes and you shouldn't use it as a gauge.

I met my then Fiance in person, not online or introduced, we are from the same city, same language, same religion, same culture, etc Our marraige had USC guests that travelled to Nigeria for our wedding, which was attended by all of her siblings and 3 out of 6 of my siblings. Our parents were in attendance as was family elders from both sides (the COs live in the country and know the local culture).

I am certain on why our K1 was denied (it was an error in answer/translation by my Fiancee due to her using an interpreter). This was most unfortunate but in retrospect I thank the CO for denying us then. It gave me an opportunity to give my Wife a rightful cultural wedding in Nigeria.

One of the things that I learned from my short time on VJ is that whenever you have flags such as yours (one visit is really not enough but I am not judging) you are almost better of by filing CR1 instead. That in itself is not an automatic approval and you have to bolster it with visits and other stuff that they want to see by your individual embassy.

Another thing I learned is that even if your packaging was put together by the Pope himself that it is still at the whim of the CO.

So you are going to file for a CR1 but you need to have more visits, more evidence and your Husband will have to become an expert on you.

[del-2-5-2014 1,339]

Ok, another question?

Why for the CR1 is does not ask for or require:

• Proof of relationship, or
• PCC

Thanks in advance.

Wedding license?

Comingling of fiannces?

Pictures before and after the wedding?

[Harpa Timsah 13,258]

Ok, another question?

Why for the CR1 is does not ask for or require:

• Proof of relationship, or
• PCC

Thanks in advance.

It does ask for those things.

[slvrfx576 15]

One the one hand the OP said that she started this relationship in 2010, and supplied the USCIS with evidence of this. Then one year later the fiancé applies for a visitor's visa and during this application he does not reveal that he is wishes to visit her, and instead says he is to visit someone else (in this case the USC's mother). Sounds to me like misrepresentation on the application for the fiance's visitor visa in 2011 is the main cause for denial of the K-1.

[AFT...Ths 1]

Short answer = 5 weeks facetime. Thousands in RebTel fees though, I have the receipts and I want a TShirt from them actually.

My case is somewhat different as far as immigration goes and you shouldn't use it as a gauge.

I met my then Fiance in person, not online or introduced, we are from the same city, same language, same religion, same culture, etc Our marraige had USC guests that travelled to Nigeria for our wedding, which was attended by all of her siblings and 3 out of 6 of my siblings. Our parents were in attendance as was family elders from both sides (the COs live in the country and know the local culture).

I am certain on why our K1 was denied (it was an error in answer/translation by my Fiancee due to her using an interpreter). This was most unfortunate but in retrospect I thank the CO for denying us then. It gave me an opportunity to give my Wife a rightful cultural wedding in Nigeria.

One of the things that I learned from my short time on VJ is that whenever you have flags such as yours (one visit is really not enough but I am not judging) you are almost better of by filing CR1 instead. That in itself is not an automatic approval and you have to bolster it with visits and other stuff that they want to see by your individual embassy.

Another thing I learned is that even if your packaging was put together by the Pope himself that it is still at the whim of the CO.

So you are going to file for a CR1 but you need to have more visits, more evidence and your Husband will have to become an expert on you.

Thank you. :-)

[Boiler 46,277]

Another thing I learned is that even if your packaging was put together by the Pope himself that it is still at the whim of the CO.

Whim is the wrong word, it is not capricious.

Invariably the cases you see discussed here are the off ones but even then like this case the decision is entirely logical.

And of course we only get part of the information, the CO has a lot more.

[AFT...Ths 1]

One the one hand the OP said that she started this relationship in 2010, and supplied the USCIS with evidence of this. Then one year later the fiancé applies for a visitor's visa and during this application he does not reveal that he is wishes to visit her, and instead says he is to visit someone else (in this case the USC's mother). Sounds to me like misrepresentation on the application for the fiance's visitor visa in 2011 is the main cause for denial of the K-1.

I am sorry I don't understand what you mean. We didn't lie or try to mislead anyone. They asked if he had ever been denied a visa, we replied yes and gave the date and location. I think what you are saying is that in the eyes of the CO my fiance is lying about who and what relationships he has with people in the US because we used my mother as "Sponsor" (I have learned that this means Person Completing Affidavit of Support) We merely used my mother and her income, assets as a tool for him to better achieve his B-2. We failed.

It would be very easy for me to prove she is my mother, too bad the CO didn't ask who she was!!! He could of explained just as easily as myself.

Can we fix it now? Any thoughts on that?

[Boiler 46,277]

I am sorry I don't understand what you mean. We didn't lie or try to mislead anyone. They asked if he had ever been denied a visa, we replied yes and gave the date and location. I think what you are saying is that in the eyes of the CO my fiance is lying about who and what relationships he has with people in the US because we used my mother as "Sponsor" (I have learned that this means Person Completing Affidavit of Support) We merely used my mother and her income, assets as a tool for him to better achieve his B-2. We failed.

It would be very easy for me to prove she is my mother, too bad the CO didn't ask who she was!!! He could of explained just as easily as myself.

Can we fix it now? Any thoughts on that?

I do not see this as an issue in your case, but you will see here where people have lied to try and obtain a B2, said they were married when they were single seems quite common, and then when they apply later for an Immigrant Visa the 2 files are compared and ooops.

[Boggy1974 124]

Get married and file for CR1.

[AFT...Ths 1]

Whim is the wrong word, it is not capricious.

Invariably the cases you see discussed here are the off ones but even then like this case the decision is entirely logical.

And of course we only get part of the information, the CO has a lot more.

Boiler, you have been a member on this site for years. I am just learning. We are here because we are requesting advice, need help, or in my case completely heart-broken by the outcome of our decision. My fiance and I were trying to do everything right, but yes we made a few mistakes. Maybe what is logical to you and other senior members of this site is not often the case for us newbies.

We just need advice, we don't need to feel stupid too. Not everyone can have a perfect file.

[AFT...Ths 1]

I do not see this as an issue in your case, but you will see here where people have lied to try and obtain a B2, said they were married when they were single seems quite common, and then when they apply later for an Immigrant Visa the 2 files are compared and ooops.

I completely get that. We messed that one up bigtime!!! But we were not trying to mislead or lie, we were just trying to make our chances at success a little higher.