People causing problems for us

[SherylTom0905 0]

I am currently in the Philippines and we are getting married soon here . A problem has risen from an ex husband and a filipina back in the states . My fiancee came over on a K1 visa back in 2012 . Her ex husband refused to file the AOS and the marriage fell a part . He was very insecure during the marriage and would always threaten that he would just send her back . With her mom having cancer she decided just to leave the states still married to that man . He divorced her without her knowledge and did so with claims of cruelty .

I met my fiancee months after all this in September 2013 and we fell in love . We have no lies within us and we both know our full stories of our lives . We both have had our share of a bad marriage and understand the truths that become rumors at some point . This is what has happened with my fiancee . This filipina insists on posting on Facebook rumors about her marriage . Even open threats about reporting to USCIS about that she just intends to immigrate to the US with me . This woman is a pastor , but yet spread lies and rumors everyday . Bringing my fiancee to tears and even has called her ex husband to beg him to stop . Her ex knows this woman and they live in the same town and state . I will not let this effect us , but she takes it hard , but I am here to keep her strong . It is just sicking that some people can not accept another happiness and just move on .

What can we do to protect against any threat with reporting to USCIS ? So far they have been dumb enough to do this in Facebook where I have been able to screen print the daily postings . What about the AOS that was never filed ? Any action against him for denying that from her ? She also went back home before the AOS was filed and chose to remain home in the Philippines . That must look good for her since there are many options she could have chosen to stay in America legally or illegally . I intend to file a police report of harassment against them since at this point she will be my wife . I just want this documented in some way to protect us .

We are in love and it is truly amazing when the right two people become connected . Far from what we both have had in the past . Some people just can not accept that in life and bring pain and suffering upon us . We have God in our lives and live strong each day . I have heard of the filipina gossip , but come on this is way beyond it now .

By the way we will be married Oct 15th in a little church and we are so happy and no one can effect us Just want to be protected against these foolish people . Mostly seem like empty threats as if they were real they would have just done so already . I just pray for them to see the errors and ask for forgiveness .

[Scot_Roselyn 7]

FIle a restraining order against her. Then it becomes a legal issue for her about harassment.

[seer8 2]

I don't want to get in on domestic quarrelling but I can ask about the process itself. Before the marriage in the Philippines, consider:

1) Is the divorce valid in the USA as well as in the Philippines (annulment)?

2) Since the marriage did not go as planned, what is her status in the USA?

3) After the "divorce", why keep contact via Facebook? I don't mean to intrude but rather to help elicit the response "move on"

Rather, just be sure you are doing the right thing and there are no issues as far as one's status is.

Goodluck

[DavenRoxy 1,073]

I don't want to get in on domestic quarrelling but I can ask about the process itself. Before the marriage in the Philippines, consider:

1) Is the divorce valid in the USA as well as in the Philippines (annulment)? If the marriage was done in the US, and then divorced in the US, nothing is needed in the PI. There is no annulment needed if the marriage did not take place in the PI.

2) Since the marriage did not go as planned, what is her status in the USA? She is out of status. Since she left the US without a GC, she cannot re-enter. If it's determined to be any sort of visa fraud (doesn't sound like it thus far, but we don't have ALL the details yet), then she will be banned from re-entering the US for a period of time. They will have to start all over with a new K1 or IR-1/CR-1 case and process accordingly.

[Tim/Mav 305]

There is to much Drama here. Why torture yourself and your future. Delete and Block from Facebook. Why read ####### when you know it gets your/their attention. The whole thing is mighty immature.

Why have friends like that unless you like to read it. Really, printing comments. Delete and get on with YOUR Lives.

It is a terrible start and your future at risk if you like this type of Drama.

The best thing to do is delete from Facebook and a good start. They will know they were deleted. In other words: They will get bored talking to a blank Wall.

[madtownguy 164]

FIle a restraining order against her. Then it becomes a legal issue for her about harassment.

You can't file a restraining order on someone just because you don't like what they are saying. The restraining order would be more hurtful than saying bad things about someone. If you could get a restraining order for that everyone in the country could have one.

[madtownguy 164]

There is to much Drama here. Why torture yourself and your future. Delete and Block from Facebook. Why read ####### when you know it gets your/their attention. The whole thing is mighty immature.

Why have friends like that unless you like to read it. Really, printing comments. Delete and get on with YOUR Lives.

It is a terrible start and your future at risk if you like this type of Drama.

The best thing to do is delete from Facebook and a good start. They will know they were deleted. In other words: They will get bored talking to a blank Wall.

Yeah I agree, why the heck are you looking at the ex's facebook anyway. Seems a little crazy in my opinion. Also it seems very odd that you just happen to be about to marry someone with an ex from the same town in the US. Not filing for AOS is also not a crime, it's not even that abnormal. My wife and I haven't filed for AOS, neither of us care much about it. You have to get married within 90 days, it never said you had to file AOS in any certain time. Personally I think your story is a huge red flag and I myself would be a bit worried.

[Hank_ 9,174]

I am currently in the Philippines and we are getting married soon here . A problem has risen from an ex husband and a filipina back in the states . My fiancee came over on a K1 visa back in 2012 . Her ex husband refused to file the AOS and the marriage fell a part . He was very insecure during the marriage and would always threaten that he would just send her back . With her mom having cancer she decided just to leave the states still married to that man . He divorced her without her knowledge and did so with claims of cruelty .

I met my fiancee months after all this in September 2013 and we fell in love . We have no lies within us and we both know our full stories of our lives . We both have had our share of a bad marriage and understand the truths that become rumors at some point . This is what has happened with my fiancee . This filipina insists on posting on Facebook rumors about her marriage . Even open threats about reporting to USCIS about that she just intends to immigrate to the US with me . This woman is a pastor , but yet spread lies and rumors everyday . Bringing my fiancee to tears and even has called her ex husband to beg him to stop . Her ex knows this woman and they live in the same town and state . I will not let this effect us , but she takes it hard , but I am here to keep her strong . It is just sicking that some people can not accept another happiness and just move on .

What can we do to protect against any threat with reporting to USCIS ? So far they have been dumb enough to do this in Facebook where I have been able to screen print the daily postings . What about the AOS that was never filed ? Any action against him for denying that from her ? She also went back home before the AOS was filed and chose to remain home in the Philippines . That must look good for her since there are many options she could have chosen to stay in America legally or illegally . I intend to file a police report of harassment against them since at this point she will be my wife . I just want this documented in some way to protect us .

We are in love and it is truly amazing when the right two people become connected . Far from what we both have had in the past . Some people just can not accept that in life and bring pain and suffering upon us . We have God in our lives and live strong each day . I have heard of the filipina gossip , but come on this is way beyond it now .

By the way we will be married Oct 15th in a little church and we are so happy and no one can effect us Just want to be protected against these foolish people . Mostly seem like empty threats as if they were real they would have just done so already . I just pray for them to see the errors and ask for forgiveness .

Does your fiancee have a copy of the divorce decree? If not that would be the first thing to acquire, it will be required for petitioning for the visa. Once that is in hand it boils down to "no one will care" at USCIS or anywhere else.

Being you are getting married soon your fiancee has her CENOMAR so the earlier marriage was never reported in the Philippines by your fiancee. So no need to file the divorce decree with NSO.

I think USCIS will know your (soon to be) wife intents to immigrant to the USA very soon as you will be petitioning for the IR/CR-1 visa. This Filipina on FB isn't threatening anything that is a secret.... but is stating a fact not a lie, unless there is much you are not saying. So she calls or writes USCIS to tell them your wife and you are married and going to petition for a visa.... ? Where is the issue?

As for AOS that is filed by the beneficiary, but to do you the petitioner needs to complete the I-864, and there is no law forcing him to do so. If he refuses that basically ends things.

Aside from some soap opera drama going on I don't see any issues.... I must be missing something.

There is to much Drama here. Why torture yourself and your future. Delete and Block from Facebook. Why read ####### when you know it gets your/their attention. The whole thing is mighty immature.

Why have friends like that unless you like to read it. Really, printing comments. Delete and get on with YOUR Lives.

It is a terrible start and your future at risk if you like this type of Drama.

The best thing to do is delete from Facebook and a good start. They will know they were deleted. In other words: They will get bored talking to a blank Wall.

Edited September 29, 2013 by Hank_

[Darnell 8,478]

You can't file a restraining order on someone just because you don't like what they are saying. The restraining order would be more hurtful than saying bad things about someone. If you could get a restraining order for that everyone in the country could have one.

Actually, there are new laws on the books about cyber-bullying and the FBI (yes, FBI) has a unit that does nothing but investigation about it, leading to arrests, indictments, fines and prison time.

SherylTom0905 - the only outstanding issue I see or smell, is her date of departure from the USA. If she left before the I-94 expired, then there are no overstay issues.

Edited September 30, 2013 by Darnell

[Hank_ 9,174]

Actually, there are new laws on the books about cyber-bullying and the FBI (yes, FBI) has a unit that does nothing but investigation about it, leading to arrests, indictments, fines and prison time.

SherylTom0905 - the only outstanding issue I see or smell, is her date of departure from the USA. If she left before the I-94 expired, then there are no overstay issues.

I don't see there being over-stay issues being they had gotten married within the 90 days, just never completed AOS... am I missing something?

She may have been "out of status" but with the K-1 as long as the marriage happened I don't see staying beyond 90 days being a big issue.

[madtownguy 164]

Actually, there are new laws on the books about cyber-bullying and the FBI (yes, FBI) has a unit that does nothing but investigation about it, leading to arrests, indictments, fines and prison time.

SherylTom0905 - the only outstanding issue I see or smell, is her date of departure from the USA. If she left before the I-94 expired, then there are no overstay issues.

FBI is federal, restraining orders are local state. Each state has their own set of rules, but from what they have said on the post they are far far from being able to have a restraining order. Either way cyber bullying or restraining orders are going to be useless to stop someone from doing something to someone in another country. The most they could do is block an IP, turn of that facebook page or something. Best thing to do is ignore them, the sooner you do the happier you will be.

[sunandmoon 450]

I don't see there being over-stay issues being they had gotten married within the 90 days, just never completed AOS... am I missing something?

She may have been "out of status" but with the K-1 as long as the marriage happened I don't see staying beyond 90 days being a big issue.

normally yes, but she has left the country. if she overstayed the I-94 by 180 days, a three year ban is a possibility. overstay for over one year, a ten year ban. if so, the may need to get a waiver.

Edited October 1, 2013 by sunandmoon

[Hank_ 9,174]

normally yes, but she has left the country. if she overstayed the I-94 by 180 days, a three year ban is a possibility. overstay for over one year, a ten year ban. if so, the may need to get a waiver.

Yup, she left the country, after she was locked out of her home by her husband... no way there wuld be possible ban or anything else as she was legal to be in the country even without AOS before the madness.. She was legal to be in the country and when the S----- hit the fan she did the correct thing and left the country.

Too much chicken little here....

[sunandmoon 450]

far from too much chicken little...

[pete_falcone 7]

There is to much Drama here. Why torture yourself and your future. Delete and Block from Facebook. Why read ####### when you know it gets your/their attention. The whole thing is mighty immature.

Why have friends like that unless you like to read it. Really, printing comments. Delete and get on with YOUR Lives.

It is a terrible start and your future at risk if you like this type of Drama.

The best thing to do is delete from Facebook and a good start. They will know they were deleted. In other words: They will get bored talking to a blank Wall.

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I had a similar issue with folks who weren't agreeable with our marriage. "I appreciate your comments. Now go ahead and pound sand." *click