ok question about after she arrives

[P A U L 14]

K-1 do not automatically receive SSN.

You must go apply.

You can marry without an SSN.

[paws057 9]

1. Never talk to the lawyer again. He is an idiot

2. You do no tneed a SSN to get married anywhere in the USA. If the application asks for it put "none" if you have none. You don;t think all those people coming from foreign countries to get married in Vegas and the Poconos have SSNs do you?

3. Go to the SS office and aply for a SS card. You can get the number the day after you apply, the card comes in a week or so.

4. Apply in her MAIDEN NAME as in her passport. Use her passport for ID as well as her visa. Bring her I-94 also. If you run into clerks that do not know what they are doing, ask for a supervisor. DO NOT leave until you have the SS application successfully completed and a reciept for it.

Alla applied for her SSN 16 hours after she arrived. She arrived on a Wednesday afternoon, we applied for the SS card Thursday morning, went back Friday morning and got her number, then opened bank accounts, joint account and got her grant for education finalized (she needed the SSN for that)

You DO NOT need it to get married. You DO NOT need it for AOS. You MUSt apply for the number within the first 76 days of her arrival (2 weeks before her I-94 expires) or you have to wait until she has an EAD or Green card

Lose your lawyers phone number, sorry you got ripped off. Ask questions here. We have actually done this stuff.

I called the local SS office this morning and they told me since she can't work she doesn't need a number and also they are not processing them because of the shutdown. This woman told me once we are married we have to go through INS and DHS to change her status to married then after we file for AOS they will issue the card. She said we have to apply for a tax ID through the IRS to get a bank account and to file my taxes at the end of the year.

This is the very same thing they told a friend of mine who just got married and is trying to file for his wife's SSN in another state. We are not married yet but will be shortly and guess the number will have to wait?

[Umka36 781]

Have you looked at the following VJ guide on getting a SSN as a K1? Right now, you can't do much with the government shutdown.

http://www.visajourney.com/content/ssn

[vbtwo 54]

I called the local SS office this morning and they told me since she can't work she doesn't need a number and also they are not processing them because of the shutdown. This woman told me once we are married we have to go through INS and DHS to change her status to married then after we file for AOS they will issue the card. She said we have to apply for a tax ID through the IRS to get a bank account and to file my taxes at the end of the year.

This is the very same thing they told a friend of mine who just got married and is trying to file for his wife's SSN in another state. We are not married yet but will be shortly and guess the number will have to wait?

The people in the office are also idiots. When the government reopens (as long as it's at least 2 weeks before I-94 expires or earlier), print out their page on the site that says that people on K1 visas can get a SSN and go get it. As far as I know even if you get the EAD but if your I-94 expires (even starting 2 weeks before it expires) and your status is just AOS applicant, they will not issue a SSN then. You would have to wait until you get your GC unless you get a SSN within the first 2.5 months after coming to the US.

[paws057 9]

The people in the office are also idiots. When the government reopens (as long as it's at least 2 weeks before I-94 expires or earlier), print out their page on the site that says that people on K1 visas can get a SSN and go get it. As far as I know even if you get the EAD but if your I-94 expires (even starting 2 weeks before it expires) and your status is just AOS applicant, they will not issue a SSN then. You would have to wait until you get your GC unless you get a SSN within the first 2.5 months after coming to the US.

The problem is she is not authorized to work in this country and probably will not work either. Here is what the site says

"

If you are not authorized by DHS to work in

the United States, you can get a Social Security

number only if you can prove you need it for

a valid non-work reason. That might happen,

for example, if a state or federal law requires

you to have a Social Security number to obtain

benefits to which you have already established

entitlement.

If you need a number for tax purposes

and you are not authorized to work in the

United States, you can apply for an Individual

Taxpayer Identification Number from the

Internal Revenue Service (IRS). Visit IRS

in person or call the IRS toll-free number,

1-800-TAXFORM (1-800-829-3676), and request

Form W-7, Application For An Individual

Taxpayer Identification Number.

If a business or government agency asks you

for a Social Security number and you are not

authorized to work in the United States, ask if

they can identify you in some other way. In most

cases, you will be able to get the service or license

you need without a Social Security number."

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How do I get a Social Security number so I can work, if my immigration document shows K-1?

To request a number:

Step 1: Gather documents proving your:

• Identity;
• Age;
• Department of Homeland Security work authorization; and
• Immigration status.

Step 2: Complete an Application for a Social Security Card.

Step 3: Take or mail your completed application and documents to your local Social Security office or your local Social Security Card Center.

All documents must be either originals or certified copies by the issuing agency. We cannot accept photocopies or notarized copies of documents. Any documents you mail to us will be returned to you along with a receipt.

Important Information

We will mail your card as soon as we have verified your documents. You should receive your card within 10 business days from the date on your receipt."

In other words they are telling me she doesn't work and she doesn't need a number just a TIN. She won't get her EAD until the AOS is finished from what I've read. I'm not sure why it's a big deal to them to give her a number?

[vbtwo 54]

The problem is she is not authorized to work in this country and probably will not work either. Here is what the site says

If she came in on a K1, it doesn't matter if she is currently authorized to work or not. You can still get a SSN. It will say on the card that you need authorization to actually work. I don't know why they write on the site you need EAD before they'll issue one. Most people on this site got a SSN before having the EAD. It will probably be too late to apply for a SSN if you wait to get an EAD as they will not issue a SSN starting 2 weeks before your I-94 expires. Look at the guide on this site.

If she won't work anyways, then she doesn't really need a SSN, you can get insurance and bank accounts without a SSN, and just apply for a tax id number for IRS to file your taxes, and then get a SSN later after she has her GC.

[1HappyGuy 45]

You will find that answers at the Social Security office vary as much as the number of different offices. If you plan to marry, then she will need a SSN eventually. If you can apply for it sooner, then do it. Just understand the SSA is a slow working bureaucracy and doesn't hire the brightest bulbs in the box. Be patient but persistent. As I said earlier, you don't need a SSN to marry, but having one makes the Adjustment of Status easier. Any reluctance by the SSA on a K-1 is just in case you don't marry. Not very likely to happen, but is does sometimes.

[BatmanUSA 105]

We got married 2 weeks after Elena arrived. waited a week for the marriage certificate and went to the SS office....

Since she had her passport and Visa and I 94, they processed and gave her a ss# in her Passport (maiden) name... they said they could not issue and/or change the card into her married name until she has a greencard or work permit...

so we are currently waiting for the EAD....