What do you think about Obamacare?

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

1) It is not a start but another dagger in the back of the middle class. Who will ultimately benefit from ACA?

A) Corporations- It's already happening = Downsizing work week. Less qualify for pensions. Less workers comp fees. Less employment perks (vacation/ sick leave/ 401k contributions). Less employment liability. More independent contract labor...etc. etc.

B) The Gov- Increased revenue -billions and billions of fees paid to Uncle Sam by Insurance companies... well.. by We the People via the insurance companies. & reduced Gov expense as entitlement costs are passed on to the tax payer.

C) Insurance companies- Less coverage provided at higher costs. Doesn't take a CPA to figure out how that benefits Insurance companies.

D) Unions- SEIU & others will make a killing as membership increases. SEIU will assist in administration & organize medical professionals.

E) Various ancillaries - Medical equipment / pharmaceuticals etc.

2) Sure. I think GOP fondness for ACA is very evident in the House. Do you swallow all this without chewing?

3) The GOP is doing exactly what got them elected in prior Midterms. They promised = "do whatever it takes to repeal ACA". I know Dems don't care how many times their "leadership" lies to them. They drink the Kool-Aid and take it with a smile. I think the current GOP voter mindset = Even if it makes you look like complete fools in Ozombie world...keep dancing if ya want to keep your job. Dancing = mmmmm...remind me..how many times has the House voted to repeal ACA...?

The rest doesn't require a response coz = it's just more liberal hate the GOP - Psychobabble.

You always mix a good glass of Kool-Aid...but ... sorry... I ain't drinking it.

Keep playing checkers, buddy. You know as well as I do - as well as Ted Cruz does - that come Jan 2014, let alone Jan 2015, a crusade against Obamacare will not win you any election beyond a Republican primary. The majority of Americans right now do not think that Obamacare should be repealed. And it won't be. Everyone knows it. Even the most stupid Republican knows that Obamacare is here to stay. And that has them shitting bricks sideways right now. People will appreciate not falling off the grid when they need health care coverage anymore. Deny it all you want but he who plays the long game wins this one.

Edited September 26, 2013 by Mr. Big Dog

[Crashed~N2~Me 970]

Keep playing checkers, buddy. You know as well as I do - as well as Ted Cruz does - that come Jan 2014, let alone Jan 2015, a crusade against Obamacare will not win you any election beyond a Republican primary. The majority of Americans right now do not think that Obamacare should be repealed. And it won't be. Everyone knows it. Even the most stupid Republican knows that Obamacare is here to stay. And that has them shitting bricks sideways right now. People will appreciate not falling off the grid when they need health care coverage anymore. Deny it all you want but he who plays the long game wins this one.

I'm not playing Checkers, buddy. I'm playing Pin the Tail on the Donkey.

I think the Repulsives are wasting time, money & attention to needed governing, fighting / trying to repeal ACA. It is the "law of the Land" & will stay that way as long as the Degenerates control the Senate. &..once it gets implemented - reversing it in it's entirety - IMO - impossible.

I just want to point out the many tails pinned on the Donkey include =

It is the Degenerates which handed this "pretty crappy" health care Act to We the People.

It is the Degenerates which laid a mortgage payment sized premium on a middle class married couple.

It is the Degenerates which passed a Tax increase via the Act.

It is the Degenerates which killed the 40 hour work week & reduced vested employee head counts.

It is the Degenerates that raised our premiums and reduced our coverage.

It is the Degenerates which passed ACA benefiting Big Corps & Insurance Companies.

Etc. Etc. Etc.

Regardless of who or what built the model - The Degenerates made it the "law of the land" & it is the Degenerates which stuck this up the wazoo of the middle class. That Donkey is pinned.

Edited September 26, 2013 by Crashed~N2~Me

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

The Degenerates? That certainly strengthens your argument.

[Crashed~N2~Me 970]

The Degenerates? That certainly strengthens your argument.

I likey to nickname.

It's a separate convo but - I lay our country's moral decay (not completely but much more than the Repulsives) at the feet of the Degenerates. Don't you agree? IMO - the Degenerates lead the way on tearing down & replacing our country's traditional moral values...I think it's very obvious. It's what they have built all recent campaign platforms around. "Transformation".

Think of it like this - the Dems are proactively degenerating our country's traditional moral values = Dems are Degenerates.

Don't be shy. It wins elections. Own it & be proud.

Edited September 26, 2013 by Crashed~N2~Me

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

I likey to nickname.

It's a separate convo but - I lay our country's moral decay (not completely but much more than the Repulsives) at the feet of the Degenerates. Don't you agree? IMO - the Degenerates lead the way on tearing down & replacing our country's traditional moral values...I think it's very obvious. It's what they have built all recent campaign platforms around. "Transformation".

Think of it like this - the Dems are proactively degenerating our country's traditional moral values = Dems are Degenerates.

Don't be shy. It wins elections. Own it & be proud.

Good Lord.

[Protocol417 161]

Oh, c'mon MBD, I always love a good debate about morals

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

Oh, c'mon MBD, I always love a good debate about morals

Not happening.

[Protocol417 161]

Not happening.

Spoil sport