Tiny North Dakota town braces against neo-Nazi plans for all-white community

[Danno 1,228]

How many American servicemen/women have been murdered by Nazis in Germany post WW2?

Is this some trivia question with a surprise answer>?

Let me get out my book on "Unknown facts on WW2"

[mota bhai 2,675]

Is this some trivia question with a surprise answer>?

Let me get out my book on "Unknown facts on WW2"

Being able to carefully read a question is one of the skills you (should) learn during your years of schooling.

[We Keep Receipts 9,238]

Funny, I thought I was defending ALL people's right to live where they want.

That includes people with unpopular yet legal thoughts.

My friend you are so fixated on "THis" case you fail to see history repeating its self, where one group bullies another out.

You go on and on about hate crimes but you have not named one actual crime of his to the people of that town.

If he has made terroristic threats, why not have him charged?

Lets be honest, while I suppose we could dig up a few examples, it's not like Skin heads are terrorizing towns across the nation,

I don't know if that can be said about SOME blacks when they move into an area. ( I have been run out twice).

If these people are such a menace that Black folks are not safe to take an evening, name a few zip codes where this is the case.

I on the other hand could name dozens of zip codes where it is not safe for white folk to take an evening walk, yet your concern in that regard is not quite so vigorous. Does the motivation for rape, robbery or a random beat-down really matter?

Bottom line: IN a free country we do not allow the Gov't to persecute people without cause.

and I am sorry hate is a feeling, by naming everything you dislike "HATE" that does not entitle you to remove peoples rights.

The same group you are defending wants to remove anyone from this country non white by force. Is that not bullying?

Sure, not trying to be nice. But I don't see why you thought there was a credible threat to your life seeing how there's no real track record of German neo-Nazis killing American servicemen/women of color.

And I wasn't trying to be the first. Even my girlfriend at the time was concerned. I was told to stay out of certain areas, as to not start a fight.

[Danno 1,228]

The same group you are defending wants to remove anyone from this country non white by force. Is that not bullying?

Bro the New Black Panthers are every bit as kooky.... they actually showed up at a polling place to intimidate voters, they actually put out a bounty on Zimmernamns head. They were in the strreet claiming the need to kill Cracka Babies.

Obama's Attorney General sees no threat in these types of things so for you to worry suggest you are doubting the No.1 Black Law enforcement person in the land is appalling.

Edited September 24, 2013 by Danno

[We Keep Receipts 9,238]

Bro the New Black Panthers are every bit as kooky.... they actually showed up at a polling place to intimidate voters, they actually put out a bounty on Zimmernamns head. They were in the strreet claiming the need to kill Cracka Babies.

Obama's Attorney General sees no threat in these types of things so for you to worry suggest you are doubting the No.1 Black Law enforcement person in the land is appalling.

But Danno, we aren't talking about the black panthers. They aren't the ones trying to take over a town. The white supremacists are.

I don't like the extremists on either side. But if you want to talk about them, wait your turn. Don't try to take the focus off the group in the OP.

And for the record, here is the NBP mantra:

The SOLE PURPOSE of a Panther is to be a

REVOLUTIONARY in the Black/Afrikan People’s

liberation struggle, and to mobilize the

masses towards self determination. A Panther

MUST be a vanguard example at ALL

TIMES. In order to accomplish this great

and divine mission, she/he must be:

1. Spiritually, culturally, and

politically conscious.

2. Respectful and courteous to all

people and demand the

same in return.

3. Militant - Always engaged in war

for the minds and hearts of black

people, while carrying one’s self

in an organized and orderly fashion.

4. Humble - Willing to release

any arrogant attitudes or

superior ideas of one’s self.

5. Disciplined - Willing to sacrifice

your lower or personal

desires for the greater good

of the mission.

[Peikko 1,575]

NO actually we do hear people wanting to run the guy out of town, they have condemned his property and what could only be called a flash of humor in all this was they had a gathering to condemn the guys goals of creating a largely White community. I say it was humorous because many of those who expressed anguish and contempt were they themselves living in the exact same type of community.

Of Course I am referring to Indian reservations.

You must admit it takes a bit of gall to leave your homogenous (by law) reservation and come protest a group who basically wants to copy that community.

One wonders where these protesters were at when that Indian tribe gave all the Black tribe members the boot from their reservation a few years back.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/01/15/us-indians-slaves-idUSTRE70E1YW20110115

Tribal ruling raises dispute over slaves owned by Indians

And no I would not want to live next door to these types of people either, not because they want to live in a white community (from the data, many people do)

but because they are kooks. In fact, these type of people are one of the biggest problems with the whole concept of having like minded communities.... how do you keep these folks out.

I'd want to run the guy out of town LEGALLY if he wanted to come to where i live and spout his hateful racist views publically and gather like minded hateful nasty neo nazi friends together. I don't have any qualms about disliking a person or group of people who espouse ideology that is in it'self hateful, discriminatory and at its very core seeks to annihilate anyone who is not white. The problem Danno is, that you seem to believe, somewhat bizarrely in my opinion, that's it is possible to be a nice, benign non threatening racist. Um, no it's not Danno, racists are by definition a threat.

[Danno 1,228]

I'd want to run the guy out of town LEGALLY if he wanted to come to where i live and spout his hateful racist views publically and gather like minded hateful nasty neo nazi friends together. I don't have any qualms about disliking a person or group of people who espouse ideology that is in it'self hateful, discriminatory and at its very core seeks to annihilate anyone who is not white. The problem Danno is, that you seem to believe, somewhat bizarrely in my opinion, that's it is possible to be a nice, benign non threatening racist. Um, no it's not Danno, racists are by definition a threat.

We just believe in different principles and civil rights that all.

YOU will decide what speech is acceptable and what types of public speech are permitted.

Thats a big responsibility you have there, let me know when you get the specifics written down so we might know what speech you approve of.

[We Keep Receipts 9,238]

We just believe in different principles and civil rights that all.

YOU will decide what speech is acceptable and what types of public speech are permitted.

Thats a big responsibility you have there, let me know when you get the specifics written down so we might know what speech you approve of.

Freedom of speech isn't the problem here. You can say what you want, the way someone reacts to it is something else.

Trot over their websites, take a look at that fee speech. If you have no problem with it, cool. But as a black man, I can fully understand what the fears and issues are.

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

More power to people who base their credo on white people being a supreme race? There is nothing benign about a neo nazi, how can there be with the ideology they espouse?

More power to them is a colloquial phrase..

Usually used like...I am not about to go to some nudist colony, but if that is what they want to do more power to them.

My point was I support the right of any group to believe as they wish as long as they do not break the law or deprive others of their rights.

[Peikko 1,575]

We just believe in different principles and civil rights that all.

YOU will decide what speech is acceptable and what types of public speech are permitted.

Thats a big responsibility you have there, let me know when you get the specifics written down so we might know what speech you approve of.

Nothing to do with free speech. I don't care what people say, but I do care what they do. They will not create a white's only community but attempting to do so is insidious and deserves condemnation. There is nothing benign about racism Danno, nothing at all.

I have no idea why you think native american homelands are neonazi communities btw, ,only you could come up with that bit of fuzzy logic.

[Peikko 1,575]

More power to them is a colloquial phrase..

Usually used like...I am not about to go to some nudist colony, but if that is what they want to do more power to them.

My point was I support the right of any group to believe as they wish as long as they do not break the law or deprive others of their rights.

How is setting up a white's only community not attempting to deprive people of their rights? Of course I very much doubt they would ever succeed, these people are tin pot no ones but they are nasty tin pot no ones all the same and I can quite see why a small town would not like to be invaded by them.

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

I have no problem with Freedom of Speech, and what they say sickens me. But violence has always followed these groups.

So since these groups tend to have more extremist that commit violence, we should profile all members of white separatist groups and single them out for increased scrutiny.?

Actually I am ok with that,.

There seems to be an issue with many Mosques in this country and extremist operating out of them. You were A-OK with the Feds singling them out right?

[Karee 4,190]

But Danno, we aren't talking about the black panthers. They aren't the ones trying to take over a town. The white supremacists are.

I don't like the extremists on either side. But if you want to talk about them, wait your turn. Don't try to take the focus off the group in the OP.

And for the record, here is the NBP mantra:

The SOLE PURPOSE of a Panther is to be a

REVOLUTIONARY in the Black/Afrikan People’s

liberation struggle, and to mobilize the

masses towards self determination. A Panther

MUST be a vanguard example at ALL

TIMES. In order to accomplish this great

and divine mission, she/he must be:

1. Spiritually, culturally, and

politically conscious.

2. Respectful and courteous to all

people and demand the

same in return.

3. Militant - Always engaged in war

for the minds and hearts of black

people, while carrying one’s self

in an organized and orderly fashion.

4. Humble - Willing to release

any arrogant attitudes or

superior ideas of one’s self.

5. Disciplined - Willing to sacrifice

your lower or personal

desires for the greater good

of the mission.

I like how they spell Afrikan with a 'K'.

[Peikko 1,575]

So since these groups tend to have more extremist that commit violence, we should profile all members of white separatist groups and single them out for increased scrutiny.?

Actually I am ok with that,.

There seems to be an issue with many Mosques in this country and extremist operating out of them. You were A-OK with the Feds singling them out right?

I am sure the feds already do scrutinize and watch muslim extremists but targeting mosques per se is not targetting extremists, targetting neo nazi groups is.

Edited September 25, 2013 by The Truth™

[We Keep Receipts 9,238]

So since these groups tend to have more extremist that commit violence, we should profile all members of white separatist groups and single them out for increased scrutiny.?

Actually I am ok with that,.

There seems to be an issue with many Mosques in this country and extremist operating out of them. You were A-OK with the Feds singling them out right?

Singling out the terrorists? Yes. But not all muslims are terrorists, just like all white folks aren't like the KKK.

There are a lot of mosques where people pray and conduct themselves properly.

And if you want to hate folks, that's your business. We see that on here from time to time.

Edited September 25, 2013 by Su and Marvin