House Votes To Cut Food Stamps By $40 Billion

[Karee 4,190]

How much is 40 billion of the total budget over 10 years? I bet it's like a drop in the bucket.

That attitude is why we have a 16 trillion dollar debt.

ETA: not only are they collecting govt. handouts, more than likely they're not "paying their fair share" to use Obama's words.

ETA again: not only are they not paying their fair share, they get this cool thing called an Earned Income Tax Credit, which basically means they get a check from the IRS even though they haven't paid any taxes.

Edited September 21, 2013 by Karee

[RGinWA 816]

That attitude is why we have a 16 trillion dollar debt.

ETA: not only are they collecting govt. handouts, more than likely they're not "paying their fair share" to use Obama's words.

ETA again: not only are they not paying their fair share, they get this cool thing called an Earned Income Tax Credit, which basically means they get a check from the IRS even though they haven't paid any taxes.

40 billion of 16 trillion is something like .04 of 1 percent. (correct me if I'm wrong)

If you're looking to make a dent we may have to reconsider your thinking as well. How about we start with the military budget which at least would make some impact in that deficit.

[Karee 4,190]

40 billion of 16 trillion is something like .04 of 1 percent. (correct me if I'm wrong)

If you're looking to make a dent we may have to reconsider your thinking as well. How about we start with the military budget which at least would make some impact in that deficit.

16 trillion is the accumulated debt over years and years. The deficit is what they accumulate every year. The deficit for FY 2012 was ~1.1 trillion. So cutting billions out of the yearly budget will have an impact.

Also,cutting military spending will cause good paying jobs to be eliminated. That has to be taken into account. If you cut welfare, you'll only be hurting the people that make generic cigarettes and cheap Malt Liquor.

[RGinWA 816]

16 trillion is the accumulated debt over years and years. The deficit is what they accumulate every year. The deficit for FY 2012 was ~1.1 trillion. So cutting billions out of the yearly budget will have an impact.

Also,cutting military spending will cause good paying jobs to be eliminated. That has to be taken into account. If you cut welfare, you'll only be hurting the people that make generic cigarettes and cheap Malt Liquor.

What about all the stores who take EBT cards (food stamps)? That 40 billion doesn't get spent now and that's no big deal?

All that money goes back into the communities were they are used. Or that 40 billion doesn't count because those poor communities suck right? Its being "consumed", which means revenue and that revenue impacts businesses in those communities.

You can't buy Cigs and beer with an EBT card. Is it being done, sure...but it's not as wide spread as most people like to make it out.

Again, on the surface great idea; once it's thought through the idea does more harm than good.

[Karee 4,190]

What about all the stores who take EBT cards (food stamps)? That 40 billion doesn't get spent now and that's no big deal?

All that money goes back into the communities were they are used. Or that 40 billion doesn't count because those poor communities suck right? Its being "consumed", which means revenue and that revenue impacts businesses in those communities.

You can't buy Cigs and beer with an EBT card. Is it being done, sure...but it's not as wide spread as most people like to make it out.

Again, on the surface great idea; once it's thought through the idea does more harm than good.

Who cares about those stores? Here in the Dallas area, the black preachers are always out protesting against those stores because they sell liquor and are harming the black community. Very few of those stores are actually run by the same folks that frequent them. When I was growing up, they were all owned and operated by middle eastern families. I doubt they were spending all that money they made marking things up 250%, re-investing in the poor neighborhoods. It probably financed their house out in the burbs somewhere. Who wants to make all that money in the 'hood and then have to live there?

You can buy anything you want with an EBT card. You can buy drugs. I've seen it done all the time with food stamps. Of course you don't $1 for $1 like you would with cash.

Where's the motivation to work if you can just survive off the govt. #######? Especially if your parents and their parents have been living like that for years? The government has made it too easy to be a slacker in this country. It's not like we have all this extra money laying around. See the 16 trillion number above.

[RGinWA 816]

Who cares about those stores? Here in the Dallas area, the black preachers are always out protesting against those stores because they sell liquor and are harming the black community. Very few of those stores are actually run by the same folks that frequent them. When I was growing up, they were all owned and operated by middle eastern families. I doubt they were spending all that money they made marking things up 250%, re-investing in the poor neighborhoods. It probably financed their house out in the burbs somewhere. Who wants to make all that money in the 'hood and then have to live there?

You can buy anything you want with an EBT card. You can buy drugs. I've seen it done all the time with food stamps. Of course you don't $1 for $1 like you would with cash.

Where's the motivation to work if you can just survive off the govt. #######? Especially if your parents and their parents have been living like that for years? The government has made it too easy to be a slacker in this country. It's not like we have all this extra money laying around. See the 16 trillion number above.

Are you saying food stamps are only used at liquor stores in poor communities in Texas? That's news to me.

I suppose these cuts target only those people you're implanted in your mind as the abusers...good to know.

PS. If the card is used for illegal purposes the money is EVENTUALLY used to buy food correct? Just checking.

Every system has abuses...even the tax breaks for the rich, which cost Trillions...not Billions.

[Karee 4,190]

Are you saying food stamps are only used at liquor stores in poor communities in Texas? That's news to me.

I never said any such thing. I'm sure the majority of them are used for food. I implied that abuse is rampant. I don't know about Texas, but in Detroit it was/is.

PS. If the card is used for illegal purposes the money is EVENTUALLY used to buy food correct? Just checking.

What?

That's news to me.

good to know.

Just checking.

Glad I could help. It always makes me feel like I'm doing a public service when I educate the mentally challenged.

[RGinWA 816]

I never said any such thing. I'm sure the majority of them are used for food. I implied that abuse is rampant. I don't know about Texas, but in Detroit it was/is.

What?

Glad I could help. It always makes me feel like I'm doing a public service when I educate the mentally challenged.

Great "I'm rubber you're glue" response...

At least we know you've lived in at least two places in the 50 states that will be cut. Thus proving the evidence of "rampant abuse"that you've claimed. With those two examples you are officially the resident expert on food stamp abuse and the national economy.

[lostinblue 1,989]

Call me a commie if you want, but I think everyone, rich or poor, should get food stamps enough to cover the basics for their family -- anything extra can be worked for.

I think similarly about shelter, as well as higher education and medical care.

Cuba would welcome you if you bring some loose change.

[lostinblue 1,989]

It might reward laziness but it might also encourage creativity. If I knew that I had, no matter what, a safety net of food, housing, etc. for my family, I would try to start my own innovative business, because I'd have a fallback if it wasn't successful.

Detroit seems to be the hub of creativity. People succeed in business because there is no fall back. . If they fail they go under. I have seen it many times. The employees go home on friday night and the small business owner works all weekend to keep things running. .The payroll and taxes are worked on Sunday night while the kids are doing homework right next to them at the kitchen table.. This is the cost of trying to keep a business running that many people never see. The first few years are a bi**H. You borrow on your house cash out the IRA's to get things running and are lucky if they don't haul you out with a heart attack at age 50.