Did Obama strike the wrong tone on Monday?

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Well any information out there on Obama in mainstream USA is bad info,,he's not even a US citizen,,born in hawaii?? my ###

besides he's Muslim.

we are at the point were being a single white male who works for a living is akin to being a negro in the early 50's

affimative action is one of the worst cancers on America.

my point about the founding father being all white and you answered it,,there werent any blacks around at the time

well what happened??? what has changed since then?

Dont worry maaaaavin,,,I dont hate the player,,I hate the game

Let me ask you this. What's wrong with being a muslim? I'm a muslim, as my wife is and quite a few other members are here. I am also in the military and serve my country, been doing it since 1993.

Affirmative Action doesn't even begin to affect you in the same way. Even right now, white people with criminal records have a better chance of getting a job than blacks without.

http://ac360.blogs.cnn.com/2008/08/09/study-black-man-and-white-felon-same-chances-for-hire/

The results of these studies were startling. Among those with no criminal record, white applicants were more than twice as likely to receive a callback relative to equally qualified black applicants. Even more troubling, whites with a felony conviction fared just as well, if not better, than a black applicant with a clean background.

Racial disparities have been documented in many contexts, but here, comparing the two job applicants side by side, we are confronted with a troubling reality: Being black in America today is just about the same as having a felony conviction in terms of one’s chances of finding a job.

The young black men posing as job applicants in this study were bright college kids, models of discipline and hard work; and yet, even in this best case scenario, these applicants were routinely overlooked simply on the basis of the color of their skin. The results of this study suggest that black men must work at least twice as hard as equally qualified whites simply to overcome the stigma of their skin color.

Considering that back then blacks were nothing more than property(less than human) what is your surprise?

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No, what I am referring to is that I have never known anyone to have a need to share their clearance level in an online, public forum. Clearly not very good OPSEC. Sounds more like braggadocio than fulfilling a need to know.

If that's how you want to see it. But like I said, my clearance would only become an issue if it came to blackmail or spillage. There are Generals here that joke about their SCI to regular joes coming and going.

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Well any information out there on Obama in mainstream USA is bad info,,he's not even a US citizen,,born in hawaii?? my ###

besides he's Muslim.

we are at the point were being a single white male who works for a living is akin to being a negro in the early 50's

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Let me ask you this. What's wrong with being a muslim? I'm a muslim, as my wife is and quite a few other members are here. I am also in the military and serve my country, been doing it since 1993.

Affirmative Action doesn't even begin to affect you in the same way. Even right now, white people with criminal records have a better chance of getting a job than blacks without.

http://ac360.blogs.cnn.com/2008/08/09/study-black-man-and-white-felon-same-chances-for-hire/

The results of these studies were startling. Among those with no criminal record, white applicants were more than twice as likely to receive a callback relative to equally qualified black applicants. Even more troubling, whites with a felony conviction fared just as well, if not better, than a black applicant with a clean background.

Racial disparities have been documented in many contexts, but here, comparing the two job applicants side by side, we are confronted with a troubling reality: Being black in America today is just about the same as having a felony conviction in terms of one’s chances of finding a job.

The young black men posing as job applicants in this study were bright college kids, models of discipline and hard work; and yet, even in this best case scenario, these applicants were routinely overlooked simply on the basis of the color of their skin. The results of this study suggest that black men must work at least twice as hard as equally qualified whites simply to overcome the stigma of their skin color.

Considering that back then blacks were nothing more than property(less than human) what is your surprise?

where do you get your stats? the NAACP??? I work for the largest govt contractor on the planet,,I see people get promoted daily based on race alone,,

there is a quota sys in place,,,and there shouldnt be,,if your the most qualified you should be the one to get the job.

Whats wrong with being Muslim?? nothing,,thats your business,,but America was founded as a CHRISTIAN nation. weather you choose to accept that is not my concern,but it was.

Therefore feel free to worship whoever you choose and you can even build mosques,,,,but DONOT try to impose your beliefs on me.

as a christian nation, we need a christian leader.

you see as an immigrant one needs to assimilate to Americas value system,,not impose their values on the system.

or else they can feel free to go back where they came from

[DavenRoxy 1,073]

2. http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2011/crime-in-the-u.s.-2011/tables/table-43 Out of the 30 categories, only 3 are led by blacks. The rest is all you.

Ahhhh, statistics... gotta love being able to show what you want in your way. (Not saying YOU Marvin, but any of us)

If you look at some other numbers: http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/00000.html

Whites are about 78% of the population, and blacks are 13%. So 78% of the population is doing 69% of the "white" crimes, while 13% are doing 28% of the "black" crimes. I guess one could argue that the black criminals work harder than the white ones?

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anytime a smaller percentage of individuals do a majority of the crime,,then its Houston,,we have a problem.

fortunately I work in a part of the country where the wallmarts are predominatley used by whitey

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

Ahhhh, statistics... gotta love being able to show what you want in your way. (Not saying YOU Marvin, but any of us)

If you look at some other numbers: http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/00000.html

Whites are about 78% of the population, and blacks are 13%. So 78% of the population is doing 69% of the "white" crimes, while 13% are doing 28% of the "black" crimes. I guess one could argue that the black criminals work harder than the white ones?

That doesn't seem to be on the page you linked.

[DavenRoxy 1,073]

That doesn't seem to be on the page you linked.

They are. I worked them in with Marvin's numbers.

[We Keep Receipts 9,238]

Ahhhh, statistics... gotta love being able to show what you want in your way. (Not saying YOU Marvin, but any of us)

If you look at some other numbers: http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/00000.html

Whites are about 78% of the population, and blacks are 13%. So 78% of the population is doing 69% of the "white" crimes, while 13% are doing 28% of the "black" crimes. I guess one could argue that the black criminals work harder than the white ones?

I didn't talk about the population, he wanted to know the stats. Folks act as if we are the only ones who commit crimes.

[DavenRoxy 1,073]

I didn't talk about the population, he wanted to know the stats. Folks act as if we are the only ones who commit crimes.

I just made your stats say something a bit different is all. Which is what statistics do, they make MY point. But anyone can skew the data, and it can still be accurate.

When you say "we are the only ones who commit crimes", are you referring to VJ posters, military lifers, people who marry foreigners, or older men who marry younger women?

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

They are. I worked them in with Marvin's numbers.

More than 9% of the population is other than white or (black or African American). Something is wrong with those census numbers. Leave it to the Democrats to totally screw up a census with political correctness.

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where do you get your stats? the NAACP??? I work for the largest govt contractor on the planet,,I see people get promoted daily based on race alone,,

there is a quota sys in place,,,and there shouldnt be,,if your the most qualified you should be the one to get the job.

Whats wrong with being Muslim?? nothing,,thats your business,,but America was founded as a CHRISTIAN nation. weather you choose to accept that is not my concern,but it was.

Therefore feel free to worship whoever you choose and you can even build mosques,,,,but DONOT try to impose your beliefs on me.

as a christian nation, we need a christian leader.

you see as an immigrant one needs to assimilate to Americas value system,,not impose their values on the system.

or else they can feel free to go back where they came from

Affirmative Action is so small, there isn't a study to show that blacks get jobs more than whties. And I agree, it should be on merit. But how is that possible when the name Jamal or Laquita with a PHD is less attractive than Bob or Mary with a criminal record? Google whites vs blacks for jobs, there are countless studies that have the same outcome, being black is a stigma within itself.

Hasn't Obama claimed to be a christian? Quite a few times. Why don't you believe him?

And last time I checked, Hawaii is part of the US, he's an american as much as you are.

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

And last time I checked, Hawaii is part of the US, he's an american as much as you are.

I bet Niblet be consistent, thinkin' McCain be a Panamanian, 'n Romney was a Mexican. Why can nah we be nominating Real Americans fer President, instead o' a bunch o' foreigners?

Edited September 19, 2013 by The Patriot

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I bet Niblet is consistent, thinking McCain is a Panamanian, and Romney was a Mexican. Why can't we nomination Real Americans for President, instead of a bunch of foreigners?

i bet niblet is milktoast in disguise

[We Keep Receipts 9,238]

I just made your stats say something a bit different is all. Which is what statistics do, they make MY point. But anyone can skew the data, and it can still be accurate.

When you say "we are the only ones who commit crimes", are you referring to VJ posters, military lifers, people who marry foreigners, or older men who marry younger women?

I'm talking about black people as a whole. If a white person kills 20 people, it's not white on white crime. If a black person kills another black person, it's black on black crime. White people commit crime just like anyone else, but because blacks lead in the murder department, that's all folks want to look at. Like there isn't any other crime out there.