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Hey! I have just received a letter with RFE. I am not sure why I have not been notified by email update before the actual mailed letter though (any ideas?).

My marriage of a year and a half did not work out and ended in divorce. I have filed with request to waive the "married" requirement.

This is what I submitted:

Personal affidavit, explaining the development of our relationship and marriage;

Copy of a letter from the landlord, owner of the condominium, which was leased by me and spouse;

Copy of a letter from BECU, confirming we had (and is still open as of a date of this letter) a joint bank account; Copy of a latest estatement for all my accounts with the bank, showing current balance on the joint account, and Copy of a voided check with both our names and mailing address;

Copy of a letter from Institutional Retirement and Trust, showing spouse as my primary and sole beneficiary of my 401K account;

Copy of spouse's summary of life insurance, agent retirement plan, persistency fee guarantee fund plan, commissions/deferred compensation, showing me as a primary and sole beneficiary on all the above mentioned plans;

Copy of my 2012 Federal Tax Return, filed as married filing separately because spouse was not going to and did not file at all;

Copy of my Health and Insurance Detailed Coverage Notice, showing spouse as my dependent on vision coverage plan;

Copy of a letter from UnitedHealthcare Services, Inc., showing me as a dependent on spouse's health benefit plan that was effective 10/01/2012 and is still active as of this date;

Copy of Geico Auto Policy Identification Cards, showing me and spouse as insurance holders on both of our vehicles; and Copy of a letter from Geico confirming me paying off our insurance policy because of non-payment from his side;

Copy of emails with confirmation of a trip for both me and spouse that was paid in full by me;

Copy of monthly parking application/lease amendments for an extra parking spot in both of our names, and copies of payments made by me;

Copy of T-mobile agreement for an additional line to spouse's Family Plan for me with my signature on reverse page;

Copy of occasional photos with spouse made over the course of our relationship (not submitted prior);

Copies of the cards me and spouse exchanged during the course of our relationship; Copies of cards written in both of our names;

Copy of the card that came with the flowers that were sent by spouse to me at work;

Copy of the message notes of me and spouse showing we used to go to Church together;

Copy of the receipt from the place from the day we first met.

Copies of sworn affidavits of 6 people.

I do not have any ownership like a car or a house with the spouse. Can you advise me on anything else please?

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Hey! I have just received a letter with RFE. I am not sure why I have not been notified by email update before the actual mailed letter though (any ideas?).

My marriage of a year and a half did not work out and ended in divorce. I have filed with request to waive the "married" requirement.

This is what I submitted:

Personal affidavit, explaining the development of our relationship and marriage;

Copy of a letter from the landlord, owner of the condominium, which was leased by me and spouse;

Copy of a letter from BECU, confirming we had (and is still open as of a date of this letter) a joint bank account; Copy of a latest estatement for all my accounts with the bank, showing current balance on the joint account, and Copy of a voided check with both our names and mailing address;

Copy of a letter from Institutional Retirement and Trust, showing spouse as my primary and sole beneficiary of my 401K account;

Copy of spouse's summary of life insurance, agent retirement plan, persistency fee guarantee fund plan, commissions/deferred compensation, showing me as a primary and sole beneficiary on all the above mentioned plans;

Copy of my 2012 Federal Tax Return, filed as married filing separately because spouse was not going to and did not file at all;

Copy of my Health and Insurance Detailed Coverage Notice, showing spouse as my dependent on vision coverage plan;

Copy of a letter from UnitedHealthcare Services, Inc., showing me as a dependent on spouse's health benefit plan that was effective 10/01/2012 and is still active as of this date;

Copy of Geico Auto Policy Identification Cards, showing me and spouse as insurance holders on both of our vehicles; and Copy of a letter from Geico confirming me paying off our insurance policy because of non-payment from his side;

Copy of emails with confirmation of a trip for both me and spouse that was paid in full by me;

Copy of monthly parking application/lease amendments for an extra parking spot in both of our names, and copies of payments made by me;

Copy of T-mobile agreement for an additional line to spouse's Family Plan for me with my signature on reverse page;

Copy of occasional photos with spouse made over the course of our relationship (not submitted prior);

Copies of the cards me and spouse exchanged during the course of our relationship; Copies of cards written in both of our names;

Copy of the card that came with the flowers that were sent by spouse to me at work;

Copy of the message notes of me and spouse showing we used to go to Church together;

Copy of the receipt from the place from the day we first met.

Copies of sworn affidavits of 6 people.

I do not have any ownership like a car or a house with the spouse. Can you advise me on anything else please?

What does the RFE state and ask you now to send!

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01/08/13 - Approved and GC is order for production on 1/8/14

09/12/13 - Case transferred to CSC. NOA2 received on 09/18/13

08/30/13 - Biometrics Done - No walk ins allowed at this LSC (received on 8/16/13).

08/05/13 - NOA1 (received on 08/10/13)

08/01/13 - Mailed I-751 (received on 8/2/13 - check cashed on 8/5/13)

12/28/11 - Received SSN (applied on 12/20/11, as we didn't get based on DS-230 options)
11/28/11 - Received Green Card (Expires on 10/30/13) - Welcome Letter on 11/17/11
10/30/11 - POE - Houston, TX

Chennai Consulate (40 days)
10/28/11 - Received Visa papers and Passport at VFS
10/25/11 - Interview Cleared Successfully (Spouse was not allowed in)

NVC: (90 days from NOA2 to Consulate)
08/31/11 - Case Completed (Interview 10/25/11) - Received at Chennai on 09/19/11
07/22/11 - NVC Case Number

USCIS: (92 days)

6/21/11 - NOA2 (NOA1 on 3/25/11) - took a month to get to NVC
3/21/11 - I-130 sent to USCIS Lockbox, Chicago.

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Could you post exactly what it says, even though it is generic?

 

 

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04/23/11 - Application delivered - Day 02
04/28/11 - NOA (most forms) - Day 07
05/03/11 - Checks cashed - Day 12
05/31/11 - Biometrics completed in the Bronx, NYC - Day 40
06/24/11 - Received someone else's employment authorization card!!! What the...? - Day 64
07/01/11 - Mailed the poor lady's card back after calling USCIS - Day 71
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07/15/11 - Received my own EAD card - Day 85
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08/18/11 - Received card in the mail - Day 119

ROC
05/28/13 - Mailed I-751 - Day 00

05/30/13 - Application delivered - Day 02

05/31/13 - NOA I-797 - Day 03
06/04/13 - Check cashed - Day 07

06/06/13 - NOA delivered to my home/Biometrics letter generated - Day 09

06/10/13 - Received Biometrics letter in the mail - Day 13

06/27/13 - Biometrics completed in Milwaukee, WI - Day 30

09/10/13 - Application approved! - Day 105

09/14/13 - 10 year Green Card received! - Day 109

Citizenship

05/10/16 - Mailed N-400 - Day 00

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05/13/16 - Credit card payment accepted - Day 03

05/17/16 - Received text & email update - Day 07

05/20/16 - Received 1st NOA (dated 05/13/16) & created ELIS acct - Day 10

05/21/16 - Received 2nd NOA (dated 05/16/16) confirming my DOB and address - Day 11

05/22/06 - Biometrics scheduled (online update) and appt letter was mailed on 05/20/16 - Day 12

05/24/06 - Biometrics letter became viewable online (appt scheduled for 06/07/16) - Day 14

05/27/16 - Received Biometrics letter in mail - Day 17

05/31/16 - Was denied walk-in fingerprints with just 1 person left in line. Milwaukee office, boo! - Day 21

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Could you post exactly what it says, even though it is generic?

Of course, I could.

Request for Evidence

*All Foreign language documents blah-blah...

Failure to respond may result blah-blah...

Evidence of good faith marriage

The conditional resident filed blah-blah. The CPR provided some evidence of marital bona fides. However, the documentation submitted is insufficient. To establish eligibility for removal of conditional status, it is requested that additional documentation be submitted. Such documentation should consist of evidence demonstrating joint ownership of assets, joint responsibility for liabilities and evidence of communal residence. Documentation should reflect the names of both the conditional permanent resident and the US citizen spouse. In addition, the documentation should cover the period of time from the date of the marriage to the present date, or the date when the marriage was terminated through divorce. Such examples may include, but are not limited to the following... (list of things that I either have submitted or do not have to submit).

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Of course, I could.

Request for Evidence

*All Foreign language documents blah-blah...

Failure to respond may result blah-blah...

Evidence of good faith marriage

The conditional resident filed blah-blah. The CPR provided some evidence of marital bona fides. However, the documentation submitted is insufficient. To establish eligibility for removal of conditional status, it is requested that additional documentation be submitted. Such documentation should consist of evidence demonstrating joint ownership of assets, joint responsibility for liabilities and evidence of communal residence. Documentation should reflect the names of both the conditional permanent resident and the US citizen spouse. In addition, the documentation should cover the period of time from the date of the marriage to the present date, or the date when the marriage was terminated through divorce. Such examples may include, but are not limited to the following... (list of things that I either have submitted or do not have to submit).

It looks like a generic one but want - joint ownership of assets, joint responsibility for liabilities and evidence of communal residence. Meaning you need to provide a joint checking or saving account covering the entire period or at least majority of the period. Also check if you have joint tax returns covering the full period.

Do you have any joint loans! Joint assets. They are looking for such additional evidence now. Gather what you can get hold of and send them and explain why you don't have something joint, if applicable (example joint bank account).

If the evidence you will now be submitting is still not compelling, you will be asked to attend a interview.

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USA

01/08/13 - Approved and GC is order for production on 1/8/14

09/12/13 - Case transferred to CSC. NOA2 received on 09/18/13

08/30/13 - Biometrics Done - No walk ins allowed at this LSC (received on 8/16/13).

08/05/13 - NOA1 (received on 08/10/13)

08/01/13 - Mailed I-751 (received on 8/2/13 - check cashed on 8/5/13)

12/28/11 - Received SSN (applied on 12/20/11, as we didn't get based on DS-230 options)
11/28/11 - Received Green Card (Expires on 10/30/13) - Welcome Letter on 11/17/11
10/30/11 - POE - Houston, TX

Chennai Consulate (40 days)
10/28/11 - Received Visa papers and Passport at VFS
10/25/11 - Interview Cleared Successfully (Spouse was not allowed in)

NVC: (90 days from NOA2 to Consulate)
08/31/11 - Case Completed (Interview 10/25/11) - Received at Chennai on 09/19/11
07/22/11 - NVC Case Number

USCIS: (92 days)

6/21/11 - NOA2 (NOA1 on 3/25/11) - took a month to get to NVC
3/21/11 - I-130 sent to USCIS Lockbox, Chicago.

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Did you have together any bank account, checking acc, savings acc. Joint credit cards, something that shows that you had finances and economical responsibilities together.

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Reading through your evidence, what appears to be lacking is statements, etc. from the year and a half you were married. Appears most of your evidence is from right before you filed? How much that you sent was statements monthly or quarterly from when you first got married?

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It is a long story about my spouse's finances. It appears he had so much debt on credit cards, student loans, to IRS, that he was reluctant to get me involved in his finances. First, I did not understand why he is not willing to merge our finances and was upset, but then I realized maybe it is for good, but not for good of my immigration. This whole shadiness was one of the reasons for our divorce.

This is why we do not have any loans together. I got a car loan under my name as he said he does not need any more debt under his name. He has such a low credit score that it is absolutely impossible to get approved for any type of loan anyway.

We do not have any property together. We used to lease a place directly from his friend who confirmed us living with each other there. All the utilities were included in the amount of rent he was paying cash to the landlord. So again, no liabilities there.

With out joint account... It was opened but it was never used other than to order checks when it was first opened. We had a deal to be putting money there once a month, but he claimed he had no money for it shortly after it was opened. So I was using my accounts and he was using his own ones.

I guess I will have to explain all that in my cover letter...

I was thinking what else I can submit and something showed up. Once, shortly before I moved out, we had a huge argument, I got emotional about a phone number of another woman and started threatening him to toss his things out of our place. I guess he got so scared and called police (which I still find hilarious because I am a tiny little woman and he is a part-time MMA fighter), so the detective I know digged out a fircard where our names and residential address are stated and the gist of the conflct: the couple has been married over a year and had an argument about fidelity.

Also, before I bought a car, I have been using a rental car, and both of our names are on this account.

Still thinking of anything else...

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Do you guys know why the online status did not change to RFE on uscis?

As far as I do not have much to add, do you think I can get an intent to deny next? Or I will be going to an interview? I thought because of this whole divorce thing I am attending the interview regardless, so I do not quite understand why I got an RFE because they can just deny me at the interview... Anyways, I am so confused.

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Monthly statements from your joint bank account. Glaring omission. You say you just sent one statement?

AOS for my husband
8/17/10: INTERVIEW DAY (day 123) APPROVED!!

ROC:
5/23/12: Sent out package
2/06/13: APPROVED!

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money money money and assets that's what immigration cares about do you share your money does he share with you... you sent many `no-nevermind` documents to them

all of the below is irrelevant in my opinion, these prove nothing...

sworn affidavits, receipts from the place from the day you first met (wow you have this lol), message notes, flower notes, cards, monthly parking application

on the other hand

tax returns insurance papers health insurance is somewhat good, lease these are good but if you don't show bank statements covering 2 years, this is what you need. are they covering a long period of time or for couple months before the application was submitted that is important too!

immigration thinks we are truly married if you have a share account with your spouse, even though they probably don't even have a shared account with their spouses lol

09/01/2002 - Came to USA on an F-1

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03/11/2011 - (Day 01) - AOs Package Delivered

08/08/2011 - (Day 150) - Green Card arrived

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04/30/2013 - (Day 00) - I-751 Package Sent

05/01/2013 - (Day 01) - I-751 Package Delivered

01/16/2014 - (Day 261) - I-751 Interview, verbal approval on the spot

04/08/2014 - (Day 343) - I-751 Approved

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04/28/2014 - (Day 00) - N-400 Package Sent

04/30/2014 - (Day 01) - N-400 Package Delivered

05/03/2014 - (Day 04) - NOA Receipt Date

05/27/2014 - (Day 29) - Walk-In Biometrics (original date was 06/04/2014)

06/27/2014 - (Day 60) - In Line for Interviewing

10/06/2014 - (Day 102) - Interview in Long Island City Field Office, Result: RFE given

10/06/2014 - (Day 102) - Responded RFE

01/23/2015 - (Day 211) - Naturalization Oath Ceremony

01/23/2015 - (Day 211) - US Citizen

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Well, guys, thank you for your responses. I will include all the statements for the joint account for the whole period of time but it will be no transaction activity, I guess.

In terms of money... he had no money and no nothing but debt that I was told about long after we got married (stupid me right? a dumb little blonde coming for romantic endeavour... this is why I probably do have a receipt from the day we met. Funny thing huh?). My immigration interviewer (if I happen to get an interview) is more than welcome to run his credit score and check how many accounts went into collection, check how much student debt and IRS debt he has. Insurance I paid off is included in this list. How can you mingle any finances with a man who lost his job and sank into his debt? I pay tribute to my ex-husband that he did not put any debt on me when divorcing.

I will include a picture of him drunk next to the toilet. I am just curious how financial intermingling is more important than a sober husband at home. Anyways, I am not going to take your time here pouring my heart and soul. I am sorry for a little deviation from the actual topic.

So if I have no property together with him, just bank statements for the whole period? Nothing else would work?

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I will include a picture of him drunk next to the toilet. I am just curious how financial intermingling is more important than a sober husband at home. Anyways, I am not going to take your time here pouring my heart and soul. I am sorry for a little deviation from the actual topic.

Keep in mind what you need to prove is you entered the marriage in good faith and intended to make it work. Financial co-mingling is the best evidence to show that intent of long-term marriage. Can you get a copy of his credit report and send that?

I think they will question the reasons for your divorce less if you can show good faith in entering the marriage in the first place.

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