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florida-photo   0

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Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: Colombia
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Hello VJers! The time has come for me to submit my Affidavit of Support (I-864) and I am working on it this weekend. In Question 21 (Household Size) it is not at all clear where I list my wife in this section. Is it better to list her in 21A (Persons you are sponsoring in this affidavit) or in 21C (Spouse)? I understand that I am not supposed to list her twice, but the directions do not stipulate which is the preferred option. Above question 21C it does say "Persons NOT Sponsored in this Affidavit" so I assume it is most correct to list her in 21A. I am sure this has been discussed on here before, but I could not find a thread when I tried to search for it. I appreciate any of your opinions on this. Thanks.

Mark

I-130 Timeline

08-15-06: Married in Barranquilla, Colombia

08-23-06: I-130 mailed to Texas Service Center

08-28-06: I-130 received by CSC

09-06-06: NOA 1

09-12-06: Touched

11-02-06: NOA 2 Approval E-mail (71 Days)!!

NVC

11-15-06: Case received by NVC and case # assigned

11-20-06: DS-3032 and AOS Bill Generated

11-21-06: E-Mailed Choice of Agent

11-24-06: AOS Bill Mailed to NVC

11-29-06: Received email acceptance of DS-3032

12-04-06: IV Fee Bill and I-864 Generated

12-11-06: Received IV Fee Bill and I-864

12-12-06: Mailed IV Fee Bill and I-864 to NVC (overnight)

12-18-06: IV Fee Bill entered into system by NVC

12-27-06: DS-230 Generated by NVC

12-27-06: Mailed DS-230 to NVC (overnight)

02-01-07: Case Completed by NVC!!

02-07-07: Case Sent to U.S. Embassy in Bogota

Embassy - Bogota

02-09-07: Case received by Embassy (estimated)

03-27-07: Interview Scheduled

03-29-07: Visa Issued!!

03-29-07: Arrival In USA

riblet Proficient

riblet   0

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Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: Canada
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Have you looked at the Example Forms? I was trying to look to help you out, but didn't see a question 21, so I was a bit confused. I haven't gotten to this point myself. From what you are saying, it sounds like she definitely can't be listed under 21C, so it must be under A. Unless someone else knows something better and can explain :)

Sandy

Michael's I-130:

NOA1: 5-10-2006----updated w/ citizenship: 9-25-06----had to call back 10/25, touch 10/26

12/06/06 - Approved!- - - 12/08/06 - Touch---01/25/07 - Touch

I130 at NVC

12/14/06 - case number assigned

12/25/06 - DS3032 & AOS Fee Bill Mailed (phone system updated 12/27)

12/27/06 - emailed choice of agent; 12/29/06 - received email from NVC confirming choice of agent!

01/01/07 - NVC generated IV Fee Bill (postmarked 1/17 though!)

01/03/07 - returned AoS Fee Bill via Priority Mail (James' shortcut)

01/15/07 - NVC generated AOS package

01/22/07 - received IV Fee Bill - overnighted back to NVC same day

01/27/07 - recieved I864 package; 01/29/07 - overnighted I864 to NVC

01/29/07 - DS230 generated (phone system not updated, email response 2/5/07)

02/05/07 - mailed DS-230 to NVC via express mail

02/20/07 - CASE COMPLETE!!

04/18/07 - INTERVIEW!!!! - APPROVED!!!!

Michael's K-3:

09/28/06 - NOA1

1/25/07 - approved ...NOA2 via snail mail - 1/29/07

03/16/07 - chose not to return packet 3 to Montreal

riblet Proficient

riblet   0

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Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: Canada
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But that doesn't make any sense to me... did you look at the form Andrea? I just looked at it online, and 21a is for "Persons you are sponsoring on this affidavit" and 21b - 21g are prefaced by "Persons NOT sponsored on this affidavit." (the capital letters are theirs not mine :)

You obviously have to put something in 21a (because it says write in the number you put on line 10) - and the number on line 10 is the total number of immigrants you are sponsoring. You have to put 1 in 21a (unless you are sponsoring more than one, which I'm assuming you are not) - and then if you put in anything in 21c, you would be counting your wife twice.

So I have now absolutely convinced myself that the answer is 21a. :) Now I shall return to studying, I just can't stop checking the forums!

21c where it indicates "spouse"

Sandy

Michael's I-130:

NOA1: 5-10-2006----updated w/ citizenship: 9-25-06----had to call back 10/25, touch 10/26

12/06/06 - Approved!- - - 12/08/06 - Touch---01/25/07 - Touch

I130 at NVC

12/14/06 - case number assigned

12/25/06 - DS3032 & AOS Fee Bill Mailed (phone system updated 12/27)

12/27/06 - emailed choice of agent; 12/29/06 - received email from NVC confirming choice of agent!

01/01/07 - NVC generated IV Fee Bill (postmarked 1/17 though!)

01/03/07 - returned AoS Fee Bill via Priority Mail (James' shortcut)

01/15/07 - NVC generated AOS package

01/22/07 - received IV Fee Bill - overnighted back to NVC same day

01/27/07 - recieved I864 package; 01/29/07 - overnighted I864 to NVC

01/29/07 - DS230 generated (phone system not updated, email response 2/5/07)

02/05/07 - mailed DS-230 to NVC via express mail

02/20/07 - CASE COMPLETE!!

04/18/07 - INTERVIEW!!!! - APPROVED!!!!

Michael's K-3:

09/28/06 - NOA1

1/25/07 - approved ...NOA2 via snail mail - 1/29/07

03/16/07 - chose not to return packet 3 to Montreal

CutienPurg Proficient

CutienPurg   0

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Filed: K-3 Visa Country: Canada
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But that doesn't make any sense to me... did you look at the form Andrea? I just looked at it online, and 21a is for "Persons you are sponsoring on this affidavit" and 21b - 21g are prefaced by "Persons NOT sponsored on this affidavit." (the capital letters are theirs not mine :)

You obviously have to put something in 21a (because it says write in the number you put on line 10) - and the number on line 10 is the total number of immigrants you are sponsoring. You have to put 1 in 21a (unless you are sponsoring more than one, which I'm assuming you are not) - and then if you put in anything in 21c, you would be counting your wife twice.

So I have now absolutely convinced myself that the answer is 21a. :) Now I shall return to studying, I just can't stop checking the forums!

21c where it indicates "spouse"

me tinks you may be right there my dear watson :)

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dougyceci   0

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Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: Colombia
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Hey Mark, are you filing the I-864 or the EZ form. The EZ form has the wife listed under wife, as an automatic entry. You have no choice as to where to put her. Given this I would list Sofia under "wife" and not the immigrant. I am assuming this is for kids if they are being sponsered.

Doug

I-130

2006 09 06 Mailed I-130

2006 09 07 Rec'd at CA Center

2006 09 13 I-130 NOA1 receipt date

2006 11 22 NOA2, approved

2007 02 15 Case complete at NVC

2007 02 21 Case forwarded to Bogota Embassy

2007 02 23 Case received at Embassy

2007 04 12 Interview,VISA GRANTED

I-751- Removing Conditions

2009 04 08 Overnight Application

2009 04 09 Rec'd Application at CSC

2009 04 17 Rec'd NOA

2009 05 10 Called CSC - No Biometrix letter, 45 day Inquiry starts

2009 05 18 Made Info Pass appointment for June 2

2009 05 26 Rec'd response and copy of Bio Appt letter dated May 14, Appt on May 28

2009 05 27 Biometrix-walked in a day early and completed appointment

2009 06 01 Approved Conditions Removed (rec'd Congratulations letter on June 9)

2009 06 12 Touched but nothing changed on USCIS website

rickmt Contributor

rickmt   0

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Filed: K-3 Visa Country: China
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You would check box 21a for the person you are sponsoring. Box 21c is if you had a spouse here and you were sponsering a family member. As usual the government wasnt thinking to clearly when they thought up these questions because for us who are married would think to check the box for our spouse because thats what they are.

Rick & Liyan

CR-1

Married June 15 2006

Mailed I-130 June 26

Check cashed I-130 $190.00 7-24-2006

Touched 7-21-2006

P-1 I-797 receipt 7-24-2006

P-2 November 15, 2006

DS-3032 & I-864 fee bill mailed 12-04-2006

received I-864 fee bill and DS-3032 12-09-2006

Scanned DS-3032 and emailed to Wife 12-10-2006

Sent I-864 fee $70.00 12-11-2006 USPS

Wife mailed DS-3032 12-11-2006 FedEx

NVC received DS-3032 12-13-2006

NVC received $70.00 fee bill 12-13-2006

Received the $380.00 IV Fee Bill 01-03-2007

Sent back the $380.00 IV Fee Bill 01-04-2007

received I-864 01-08-2007

sent back I-864 01-09-2007

Received DS-230

NVC received 1-25-07

Called NVC, missing or incomplete information on packet sent to them

so they are sending out a letter. 2-09-07 Waiting for letter....

Got letter said they hadnt received our DS-230. Called the NVC said they had received it disregard letter....2-15-07

NVC has completed the case, 03-09-07 off to GUZ!!!

CR-1 mailed to GUZ 03-14-07

June 8th found out interview is July 9th!!!!!!! Waiting for P-4

P-4 arrived on June 16th at my wifes apartment.

Med check done on June 20th have to go back for results and Vacinations.....

Interview July 9th, PASSED!!!!!

wife flies to San Fransisco July 26th, 20 minutes to clear cutoms..

July 30 applies for SS card

I-129F

Mailed I-129F 7-24-2006

Delivered Chicago 7-26-2006

I-797C receipt 8-03-200

Check cashed I-129F $170.00 8-04-2006

P-2 1-12-07

I-129 sent to Guz on 2-1-07

Recieved Guz number...

K-3 turned into CR-1 not sure when...

CutienPurg Proficient

CutienPurg   0

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Filed: K-3 Visa Country: Canada
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You would check box 21a for the person you are sponsoring. Box 21c is if you had a spouse here and you were sponsering a family member. As usual the government wasnt thinking to clearly when they thought up these questions because for us who are married would think to check the box for our spouse because thats what they are.

That was my knee-jerk as well when I read the post , then quickly scanned the instructions..put spouse where it says spouse for frig sake. Then of course riblet showed me the error of my thinking( she's good for that that dang smart lawyer to be that she is). After looking over my own I864 I saw that I had in fact put my husband in the 21a box and left 21c blank. :whistle:

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simple_male Experienced

simple_male   1

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Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: Bangladesh
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List her on 21A and leave 21C blank. But you may wanna write a note by 21C that she has been counted on 21A, therefore, you are leaving 21C blank.

Hello VJers! The time has come for me to submit my Affidavit of Support (I-864) and I am working on it this weekend. In Question 21 (Household Size) it is not at all clear where I list my wife in this section. Is it better to list her in 21A (Persons you are sponsoring in this affidavit) or in 21C (Spouse)? I understand that I am not supposed to list her twice, but the directions do not stipulate which is the preferred option. Above question 21C it does say "Persons NOT Sponsored in this Affidavit" so I assume it is most correct to list her in 21A. I am sure this has been discussed on here before, but I could not find a thread when I tried to search for it. I appreciate any of your opinions on this. Thanks.

Mark

I-130 Timeline with USCIS:

It took 92 days for I-130 to get approved from the filing date

NVC Process of I-130:

It took 78 days to complete the NVC process

Interview Process at The U.S. Embassy

Interview took 223 days from the I-130 filing date. Immigrant Visa was issued right after the interview

 
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