George Zimmerman 'a Sandy Hook waiting to happen', police chief suggests

[Peikko 1,575]

A series of indiscreet emails by a Florida police chief has revealed his belief that Trayvon Martin's killer George Zimmerman is a volatile character who is "a Sandy Hook waiting to happen".

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/sep/13/george-zimmerman-florida-police-chief

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

A series of indiscreet emails by a Florida police chief has revealed his belief that Trayvon Martin's killer George Zimmerman is a volatile character who is "a Sandy Hook waiting to happen".

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/sep/13/george-zimmerman-florida-police-chief

Nothing but negative news on him, but we keep being told he is a big hero across the land

[Peikko 1,575]

Nothing but negative news on him, but we keep being told he is a big hero across the land

Who tells you he's a hero? I was under the impression that was your opinion, based on things you posted, not that you had been told he was.

I do not know why the media is obsessed with this character. Personally I would be happy never to see another story on him again, he's a know nothing no one who made a mistake that led to someone's death. That's not something to celebrate or even reason to follow him around monitoring his every move.

All the same, once the media circus gets fed up, he will sink back into the background and I would not be surprised if his life ends badly, he does not value the things that most people value who enjoy normal, stable and happy lives.

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

Who tells you he's a hero? I was under the impression that was your opinion, based on things you posted, not that you had been told he was.

I do not know why the media is obsessed with this character. Personally I would be happy never to see another story on him again, he's a know nothing no one who made a mistake that led to someone's death. That's not something to celebrate or even reason to follow him around monitoring his every move.

All the same, once the media circus gets fed up, he will sink back into the background and I would not be surprised if his life ends badly, he does not value the things that most people value who enjoy normal, stable and happy lives.

Marvin keeps telling me he is a hero...I have no clue what he is

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

A series of indiscreet emails by a Florida police chief has revealed his belief that Trayvon Martin's killer George Zimmerman is a volatile character who is "a Sandy Hook waiting to happen".

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/sep/13/george-zimmerman-florida-police-chief

1. Fortunately our rights are not subject to the opinions of Police Chiefs. I really could not care less what he thinks. His emails are irrelevent.

2. If anyone is worried about a "Sandy Hook" then put armed guards in the schools and allow teachers to be armed. What is the point of having to CALL someone to bring a gun to protect the children?

In every one of these cases the response is to CALL SOMEONE TO BRING A GUN. How low an IQ do you need to have to not understand that the best way to protect "gun free zones" is to make them NOT gun free? How many times do we have to repeat the scenario?

Bad guy comes...shoots children...paniced teachers call 911 "Send people with guns!" People with guns come after many children are dead and shoot bad guy, or bad guy shoots self when confronted with good people with guns. many children dead.

Better this...

Bad guy comes...teacher shoots bad guy. Bad guy dead. Call someone to take a report, Give children an few days off school to settle down. Sort of like a "snow day"

I am guessing the bad guys will learn MUCH more quickly to STFO of schools. wanna bet?

[Peikko 1,575]

1. Fortunately our rights are not subject to the opinions of Police Chiefs. I really could not care less what he thinks. His emails are irrelevent.

2. If anyone is worried about a "Sandy Hook" then put armed guards in the schools and allow teachers to be armed. What is the point of having to CALL someone to bring a gun to protect the children?

In every one of these cases the response is to CALL SOMEONE TO BRING A GUN. How low an IQ do you need to have to not understand that the best way to protect "gun free zones" is to make them NOT gun free? How many times do we have to repeat the scenario?

Bad guy comes...shoots children...paniced teachers call 911 "Send people with guns!" People with guns come after many children are dead and shoot bad guy, or bad guy shoots self when confronted with good people with guns. many children dead.

Better this...

Bad guy comes...teacher shoots bad guy. Bad guy dead. Call someone to take a report, Give children an few days off school to settle down. Sort of like a "snow day"

I am guessing the bad guys will learn MUCH more quickly to STFO of schools. wanna bet?

Except when the unarmed school secretary prevents mass murder by talking a frustrated, suicidal armed gunman down of course. Incidentally, doing that makes it much less likely that a child will be killed by stray bullets fired by teachers who are meant to teach not take out gun men and possibly kill their own students in the process.

Your world view is very, very odd Gary. I really don't know why you think a society where citizens get to run amok killing their neighbours before they kill you would be so much fun, but for some reason you do.

[Jacque67 7,328]

Marvin keeps telling me he is a hero...I have no clue what he is

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[The Nature Boy 4,224]

Except when the unarmed school secretary prevents mass murder by talking a frustrated, suicidal armed gunman down of course. Incidentally, doing that makes it much less likely that a child will be killed by stray bullets fired by teachers who are meant to teach not take out gun men and possibly kill their own students in the process.

Your world view is very, very odd Gary. I really don't know why you think a society where citizens get to run amok killing their neighbours before they kill you would be so much fun, but for some reason you do.

Good. Lets send unarmed secretary's to Syria

problem solved

[Peikko 1,575]

Good. Lets send unarmed secretary's to Syria

problem solved

The idea that an armed response to an armed threat is always the right answer is definitely worth calling into question. Quite clearly, a lot of people are putting a lot of time into doing that and I for one am glad. The only losers in these violent international incidents are innocent people who just want to live a normal life in peace. I am all for encouraging looking for non violent solutions where possible..

[lostinblue 1,989]

Sounds like a LEO who had his five minutes of fame on the national stage and still wants more. George is the man who keeps on giving. Has he opened himself up up a "defamation of character." lawsuit.?

Defamation of character is a very specific area of law that requires that specific elements of fact be maintained. First, to be accused of defamation, the accuser must prove that you have made a false statement them. Secondly, the statement must be made publicly and not involve a private conversation, the statement must be negligent on your part and, finally, the person who is making the accusation against you must prove they have sustained damages as a result of the negligent, false and public statements.

http://voices.yahoo.com/the-four-elements-defamation-character-requirements-1020331.html

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

The idea that an armed response to an armed threat is always the right answer is definitely worth calling into question. Quite clearly, a lot of people are putting a lot of time into doing that and I for one am glad. The only losers in these violent international incidents are innocent people who just want to live a normal life in peace. I am all for encouraging looking for non violent solutions where possible..

Sure

Give me an example of a case where there was not an armed response. Late though it may be, there is always and armed response. I suggest having the response arrive sooner.

What is the first thing you do for an armed threat? Talk? Negotiate? Before you call the police? You call the police because they have guns...because they are armed. Otherwise you would ask for the fire department. Give an example of an incident where there was no police response and the situation ended well without the presence of good guys with guns.

Armed security and teachers will reduce these incidents and result in a non-violent solution.

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

Except when the unarmed school secretary prevents mass murder by talking a frustrated, suicidal armed gunman down of course. Incidentally, doing that makes it much less likely that a child will be killed by stray bullets fired by teachers who are meant to teach not take out gun men and possibly kill their own students in the process.

Your world view is very, very odd Gary. I really don't know why you think a society where citizens get to run amok killing their neighbours before they kill you would be so much fun, but for some reason you do.

I don't know why you think I believe that.

I live in a very peaceful place where everyone can be armed and pretty much no one shoots anyone. I like it. I really do not know why you equate being armed with violence? Makes no sense at all. I like living in a safe and peaceful place, I choose to live here. Switzerland is safe and peaceful and 1 in 10 Swiss citizens owns a machinegun. That would be like having 30,000,000 privately owned machineguns in the USA

Would your state like to have the per capita homicide rate of Vermont? I bet they would.

[Darnell 8,479]

Good. Lets send unarmed secretary's to Syria

problem solved

I think yer on to something. Let's twist it a bit, aye?

I suggest extending your concept a bit,

to send only non-muslim prostitutes who are infected with the AIDS virus.

I think about 3500 of them would be the right number. Some prior work with FBI and DoS to help train them a bit, but it should be an easy excursion /infiltration.