Philippine Fiance In Japan

[Tobydale 2]

Not so confusing I don't think. The CRS Form No.5 "Advisory on Marriages" aka Marriage certificate, aka CEMAR.

My fiance has never registered her Japan divorce in the Phils. I don't think they would recognize it if she did. So as far as NSO is concerned, she is still married. But since USA and JAPAN both recognize divorce, it does not matter that NSO has not been updated. As I have already said, we sent the "advisory on marriages" (which shows she was married with date) along with her translated Japan divorce decree with our intitial application and got our NOA2 in 76 days. So if these docs were sufficient for the application and approval then will they suffice for the interview?

I'm not sure where this (confusing?) term CEMAR comes from?

I know CENOMAR (proves you are single) - http://www.census.gov.ph/civilregistration/requesting-civil-registry-document/cenomar

And I know MARRIAGE CERTIFICATE (proves you are married) - http://www.census.gov.ph/civilregistration/requesting-civil-registry-document/marriage-certificate

makes sense to me

CENOMOAR (CE-NO-MAR) = Certificate of No Marriage

CEMAR (CE-MAR) = Certificate of Marriage

[Tobydale 2]

Really? if she is still married she can do K1 visa? c'mon man.

If you are referring to the CEMAR as the Marriage Certificate, that is NOT what you need. If she's still married, then you can't do a K-1 visa. She will need a CENOMAR... if she doesn't have one because she never filed it with NSO, then you can try to show the Japan divorce paperwork at the Japanese Embassy. As Hank said, it will depend on what THEY want, not what folks here tell you USEM wants.

can't do. sorry

Really? if she is still married she can do K1 visa? c'mon man.

[Hank_ 9,174]

Not so confusing I don't think. The CRS Form No.5 "Advisory on Marriages" aka Marriage certificate, aka CEMAR.

My fiance has never registered her Japan divorce in the Phils. I don't think they would recognize it if she did. So as far as NSO is concerned, she is still married. But since USA and JAPAN both recognize divorce, it does not matter that NSO has not been updated. As I have already said, we sent the "advisory on marriages" (which shows she was married with date) along with her translated Japan divorce decree with our intitial application and got our NOA2 in 76 days. So if these docs were sufficient for the application and approval then will they suffice for the interview?

makes sense to me

I don't see the CRS Form No. 5... aka CEMAR listed anywhere in the requirements from the U.S. embassy in Japan, they only ask for a copy of the divorce decree (translated of course). I would not bother with documents that are not requested. The CEMAR provide zero evidence of being single (unless the divorce was recorded at NSO, and the petitioner was the Japanese citizen, not your fiancee).

[Tobydale 2]

I agree Hank. I will stop worrying for now and just wait for our letter from the embassy.

I don't see the CRS Form No. 5... aka CEMAR listed anywhere in the requirements from the U.S. embassy in Japan, they only ask for a copy of the divorce decree (translated of course). I would not bother with documents that are not requested. The CEMAR provide zero evidence of being single (unless the divorce was recorded at NSO, and the petitioner was the Japanese citizen, not your fiancee).

[DavenRoxy 1,073]

I have seen the terms CEMAR, CENMAR, and CENOMAR used synonymously in posts here. Just pointing out that NSO doesn't call it a CEMAR. As long as you know the difference, then great.

And what hand said just above makes the most sense. I think showing a CEMAR would just confuse the matter. The divorce decree should be all you need.

[Tobydale 2]

Thank you everyone, for all of your help along the way thus far. It has made it much easier for us. We are getting there.

Toby&Sharon

I have seen the terms CEMAR, CENMAR, and CENOMAR used synonymously in posts here. Just pointing out that NSO doesn't call it a CEMAR. As long as you know the difference, then great.

And what hand said just above makes the most sense. I think showing a CEMAR would just confuse the matter. The divorce decree should be all you need.

[Hank_ 9,174]

I have seen the terms CEMAR, CENMAR, and CENOMAR used synonymously in posts here. Just pointing out that NSO doesn't call it a CEMAR. As long as you know the difference, then great.

And what hand said just above makes the most sense. I think showing a CEMAR would just confuse the matter. The divorce decree should be all you need.

CENMAR is a typo (or a newbie) IMHO

I agree Hank. I will stop worrying for now and just wait for our letter from the embassy.

Hanging on the Japan forum may be a lot more helpful for your process.

[Brent&Ella 0]

Hello everyone, it has been a busy few weeks for me here. What I did is send the embassy an email and I received that they just want the CENOMAR showing all previous marriages. Also, because of the Japanese ways if a person did not get the full decree they will accept the Certificate of Divorce and that took my fiancé two hours talking with the city hall before they agreed to give her a copy, but not the decree itself. In short we just about have everything done, but I have a question. In the NOA they asked for DS-230 Part 1. When will we submit part 2?

[Hank_ 9,174]

Hello everyone, it has been a busy few weeks for me here. What I did is send the embassy an email and I received that they just want the CENOMAR showing all previous marriages. Also, because of the Japanese ways if a person did not get the full decree they will accept the Certificate of Divorce and that took my fiancé two hours talking with the city hall before they agreed to give her a copy, but not the decree itself. In short we just about have everything done, but I have a question. In the NOA they asked for DS-230 Part 1. When will we submit part 2?

The DS-230 part 1 is embassy specific. Manila uses the DS-230 part 1 ONLY. Other embassies have switched to the DS-260. You will have to follow the embassy instructions letter for Tokyo as they will have their own requirements.

http://cdn.ustraveldocs.com/jp/jp-niv-typek.asp

http://japan.usembassy.gov/e/visa/tvisa-niv-kchecklist.html

Edited September 27, 2013 by Hank_

[Tobydale 2]

Any updates?

Hello everyone, it has been a busy few weeks for me here. What I did is send the embassy an email and I received that they just want the CENOMAR showing all previous marriages. Also, because of the Japanese ways if a person did not get the full decree they will accept the Certificate of Divorce and that took my fiancé two hours talking with the city hall before they agreed to give her a copy, but not the decree itself. In short we just about have everything done, but I have a question. In the NOA they asked for DS-230 Part 1. When will we submit part 2?

[Tobydale 2]

Fiance' in Japan got her letter from embassy on Friday. It does list CENOMAR along with divorce decree. We do not have CENOMAR. And it would take forever to get one at this point. I am going to email embassy and see if I can get some clarification. I am hoping that it list the CENOMAR with all other docs, but is just not applicable in our case. BTW, the letter aslo still calls for the DS230 part1. I already emailed them about that and they responded with same information I see here on VJ, that as of Sept 1 we must use electronic form DS260. They just do not have their letters nor their website updated yet.

Are there any VJ members who did not have the CENOMAR and only divorce decree? If so, please let me know. In the meantime I will wait for response from embassy.

Hello everyone, it has been a busy few weeks for me here. What I did is send the embassy an email and I received that they just want the CENOMAR showing all previous marriages. Also, because of the Japanese ways if a person did not get the full decree they will accept the Certificate of Divorce and that took my fiancé two hours talking with the city hall before they agreed to give her a copy, but not the decree itself. In short we just about have everything done, but I have a question. In the NOA they asked for DS-230 Part 1. When will we submit part 2?

Edited October 7, 2013 by Tobydale

[Brent&Ella 0]

We received everything we needed and has been sent to the Embassy. What I read above is very disturbing that the letter asked for DS-230 Part one as you did but they told you in an email to do online form DS-260? No I am really worried.

[Tobydale 2]

In my original email I did not specify that I was inquiring for a K1 visa. Please see this email I got yesterday in response to my CENOMAR question. They say that DS260 is not used for K visa's and that we should use the DS230 part 1. So maybe this helps?

We received everything we needed and has been sent to the Embassy. What I read above is very disturbing that the letter asked for DS-230 Part one as you did but they told you in an email to do online form DS-260? No I am really worried.

[Tobydale 2]

I looked at my original email again, and I did in fact , mention K1 visa. So they have given conflicting information regarding the DS230 vs DS260. ????????????????????????????

In my original email I did not specify that I was inquiring for a K1 visa. Please see this email I got yesterday in response to my CENOMAR question. They say that DS260 is not used for K visa's and that we should use the DS230 part 1. So maybe this helps?

[Hank_ 9,174]

You can check the embassy instructions letter online. The embassy may have updated their instructions letter to the DS-160 (USEM did it yesterday)

From the embassy website for Tokyo:

http://japan.usembassy.gov/e/visa/tvisa-important.html

2013:

• Use of DS-160 For New K Visa Cases (October 9, 2013)
  Effective immediately, the DS-160 Nonimmigrant Visa Electronic Application will be used for processing K-1 and K-2 nonimmigrant visa (NIV) applications, except the following situations. The DS156 Electronic Visa Application Form (EVAF), the DS-156K (Nonimmigrant Fiancé Visa Application), and the paper-based DS-230 Application for Immigrant Visa and Alien Registration will not be accepted.
  
  - If you have already scheduled for an interviewed or have interviewed and your case is pending additional documentation or administrative processing.
  - If you have already received K-visa instructions from US Embassy Tokyo or Consulate in Naha.
  
  For DS-160 instruction, please see Complete the DS-160 page.