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Filed: Timeline
Posted

There is a lot of debate on here about the 30/60 day rule and I thought this attached case may spark some lively conversation. I would be interested in everyones take on this.

This is just for personal interest but it may be critical information for those Adjusting Status from a B2 visa. Please keep it nice. Everyone has a right to an opinion and I am fascinated to see a discussion of this.

Apr042011_11H5212.pdf

Filed: Timeline
Posted

Interesting read, but the decision was based on the the misrepresentation of intent made by the visa applicant, and not the 30/60 day rule.

Actually, I read it differently. It appears that the 30/60 day rule was indeed used and that the misrepresentation was at the port of entry and not during the visa application process. Here is a quote from the decision:

"Although the AAO is not bound by the Foreign Affairs Manual, reference to its provisions is informative in responding to counsel's assertions.

--snip--

The Department of State has developed the 30/60-day rule which applies when, "an alien states on his or her application for a B-2 visa, or informs an immigration officer at the port of entry, that the purpose of his or her visit is tourism, or to visit relatives, etc., and then violates such status by ... Marrying and takes [sic] up permanent residence." 9 FAM 40.63 N4.7-l(3).

In this case the record establishes that the applicant entered the United States on November 15,2005 as a visitor for pleasure. The applicant then married his current spouse on January I. 2006. 47 days later. If conduct occurs within 30 days of entry to the United States a presumption of misrepresentation arises. 9 FAM 40.63 N4.7-2. If conduct occurs within 60 days of entry a presumption of misrepresentation does not arise, but may be established based on facts leading to a reasonable belief the applicant misrepresented his or her intent. 9 FAM 40.63 N4.7-3."

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Australia
Timeline
Posted (edited)

This is the most important part, I think..

"Further, the applicant has admitted that he did not inform the inspection agent of his intent to marry his spouse because he feared he would be denied entry. Testimony of the Applicant, July 17. 2009; Statement of the Applicant. dated September 12, 2009"

So he already had the intent to marry his fiancé during this visit, and didn't disclose this on entry to the US because he knew it would arouse suspicion of immigrant intent. Clear and simple, he lied, and later stated his lie was to evade immigration laws. Entered with a nonimmigrant visa with immigrant intent (by applying for AOS).

Edited by jordan85

N-400 Application for Naturalization

07/15/16 - N-400 and supporting documents sent to Phoenix via FedEx

07/17/16 - Earliest accepted filing date

07/18/16 - Package delivered to Phoenix

07/21/16 - Check cashed

07/25/16 - NOA received via USPS (dated 07/21/16)

07/26/16 - Biometrics appointment notice available online

08/10/16 - Biometrics appointment

02/24/16 - Online status change to "Interview Scheduled"

02/27/17 - Interview appointment notice available online

03/31/17 - N-400 interview at Los Angeles office - Recommended for approval
03/31/17 - Online status change to "Oath Ceremony Scheduled"
04/03/17 - Oath ceremony notice available online

04/18/17 - Oath ceremony

Filed: AOS (apr) Country: Australia
Timeline
Posted

From my understanding the reason for denial was misrepresentation not the 30/60 day rule.

We became a couple : 2011-05-29
I visited him : 2011-10-28 - 2011-11-17
He visited me (and my crazy family) : 2012-02-05 - 2012-02-17
I-129F Sent : 2012-02-05
I-129F NOA1 : 2012-02-14
I entered on VWP to stay 3 months: 2012-04-11 - 2012-07-03
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Went to get my medical done for interview in Australia (much cheaper in the US and I was already here):2012-05-20
Medical issue diagnosed
K-1 petition cancellation request sent to CSC : 2012-06-01
Married: 2012-06-21
Filed for AOS : 2012-08-08
NOA1 : 2012-08-10
Biometrics : 2012-09-14
EAD approved : 2012-10-16
Applied for SSN : 2012-11-01
Received SSN : 2012-11-13
Received interview notice :2012-12-27
Interview- APPROVED :2013-01-28
Green card received :2013-02-04
Baby girl born :2013-03-09

Filed for ROC :2014-12-05
NOA :2014-12-11
Biometrics : 2015-01-15

ROC Approval : 2015-05-14

Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Hungary
Timeline
Posted

As you can see in my signature I got married 11 days after entry. There was no intent to AOS at the time nor did it cause a problem later.

Entry on VWP to visit then-boyfriend 06/13/2011

Married 06/24/2011

Our first son was born 10/31/2012, our daughter was born 06/30/2014, our second son was born 06/20/2017

AOS Timeline

AOS package mailed 09/06/2011 (Chicago Lockbox)

AOS package signed for by R Mercado 09/07/2011

Priority date for I-485&I-130 09/08/2011

Biometrics done 10/03/2011

Interview letter received 11/18/2011

INTERVIEW DATE!!!! 12/20/2011

Approval e-mail 12/21/2011

Card production e-mail 12/27/2011

GREEN CARD ARRIVED 12/31/2011

Resident since 12/21/2011

ROC Timeline

ROC package mailed to VSC 11/22/2013

NOA1 date 11/26/2013

Biometrics date 12/26/2013

Transfer notice to CSC 03/14/2014

Change of address 03/27/2014

Card production ordered 04/30/2014

10-YEAR GREEN CARD ARRIVED 05/06/2014

N-400 Timeline

N-400 package mailed 09/30/2014

N-400 package delivered 10/01/2014

NOA1 date 10/20/2014

Biometrics date 11/14/2014

Early walk-in biometrics 11/12/2014

In-line for interview 11/23/2014

Interview letter 03/18/2015

Interview date 04/17/2015 ("Decision cannot yet be made.")

In-line for oath scheduling 05/04/2015

Oath ceremony letter dated 05/11/2015

Oath ceremony 06/02/2015

I am a United States citizen!

Filed: AOS (apr) Country: Philippines
Timeline
Posted

I think a couple of you are misreading this or maybe I am.

"Further, the applicant has admitted that he did not inform the inspection agent of his intent to marry his spouse because he feared he would be denied entry. Testimony of the Applicant, July 17. 2009; Statement of the Applicant. dated September 12, 2009"

He didn't lie. He omitted information. I'm reading that he didn't volunteer the fact he was engaged to the inspection agent. It says the word omission several times in the proceeding but not once does it say that he was specifically asked if he had a fiance. Instead this statement:

About the 30/60 rule, The proceedings specifically brings up it up and says the marriage occurred within the 60 days time frame
Here is how it is cited:
First the facts of the case: In this case the record establishes that the applicant entered the United States on November 15,2005. as a visitor for pleasure. The applicant then married his current spouse on January I. 2006. 47 days later.
Next the rule violated is cited: If conduct occurs within 60 days of entry a presumption of misrepresentation does not arise, but may be established based on facts leading to a reasonable belief the applicant misrepresented his or her intent. 9 FAM 40.63 N4.7-3.
Next the material misrepresentation is defined:
A misrepresentation is material if either: (1) The alien is excludable on the true facts; or (2) The misrepresentation tends to shut off a line of inquiry that is relevant to the alien's eligibility and that might well have resulted in a proper determination that he be excluded.

Next facts that show a material misrepresentation was made:

In this case the applicant failed to reveal that he was engaged to a Lawful Permanent Resident of the United States and that he was going to be married in the United States on January 1, 2006. These facts directly contradict his assertion to the inspection officer that he was merely entering the United States as a visitor. Had the inspecting officer known that the applicant was engaged to a lawful permanent resident, he could have pursued the material line of inquiry regarding whether the applicant intended to marry and remain in the U.S. - an intent not permitted in temporary B nonimmigrant status. As such, his failure to reveal his engagement and marital plans constitutes a material misrepresentation, as it shut off a line of inquiry that was relevant to his eligibility for B nonimmigrant status.

It's clear that they are saying that since he didn't say the true nature of his trip to the US that he was making a misrepresentation. His omission, not a lie, was the misrepresentation. In fact nowhere in the entire proceedings does it say he lied. He just didn't volunteer the information to the inspection agent. I suspect the inspection agent asked him: "What's your purpose in coming to the US?" And he responded something like: "Just visiting."

I wonder how many here have done that when they entered with the intent to get married?

I suspect that if he had waited more than 60 days to get married that he wouldn't have had this problem. I also suspect that part of his problem was a difficult interviewing officer.

I-485 Timeline

08/14/2013 (Day 0) Sent to Chicago Lockbox

08/15/2013 (Day 1) Received at Chicago Lockbox

08/20/2013 (Day 6) Received Texts/Emails

08/24/2013 (Day 10) Received all four NOA1's in the mail

08/29/2013 (Day 15) Received Biometrics Appointment for 9/160

9/03/2013 (Day 20) Successful Biometrics Walkin

09/07/2013 (Day 24) Text/Email notification of RFE

09/14/2013 (Day 31) Received RFE in mail for Medical and lost income tax return

09/18/2013 (Day 35) RFE response sent by Priority Mail

09/23/2013 (Day 40) RFE Review Status

10/08/2013 (Day 55) Testing and Interview Status Text Message Rcvd

10/18/2013 (Day 65) EAD/AP sent to production txt message rcvd

10/22/2013 (Day 69) Rcvd Text/Email for November 25th Interview

10/23/2013 (Day 70) Rcvd EAD/AP sent to production txt/email

10/25/2013 (Day 72) Rcvd Hard Copy of Interview Notice

10/28/2013 (Day 75) EAD mailed

10/30/2013 (Day 77) EAD/AP Combo Card Rcvd(wrong address)

11/25/2013 (Day 103) Interview -- Further Review

11/25/2013 (Day 103) Email/Text Card in Production

11/26/2013 (Day 104) Email notice of approval sent for i485 and i130

11/29/2013 (Day 107) Email Card mail with tracking number

12/02/2013 (Day 110) GC & Welcome to USA letter rcvd

Posted

It says right on there: "Although the AAO is not bound by the Foreign Affairs Manual, reference to its provisions is


informative in responding to counsel's assertions." (emphasis mine)

AOS for my husband
8/17/10: INTERVIEW DAY (day 123) APPROVED!!

ROC:
5/23/12: Sent out package
2/06/13: APPROVED!

Filed: Timeline
Posted

"As such, his failure to reveal his engagement and marital plans constitutes a material misrepresentation" - but how come he was different from all the others who didn't share information at POE, yet successfully adjusted while in the US?

and..

"an alien states on his or her application for a B-2 visa, or informs an immigration officer at the port of entry, that the purpose of his or her visit is tourism, or to visit relatives, etc., and then violates such status by ... Marrying and takes [sic] up permanent residence." 9 FAM 40.63 N4.7-l(3). - OK. So what's different from this person's case than the thousands of others who do it? I understand he violates his visa by seeking to take up permanent residence BUT.. how come he was denied/caught? Some have done it even before the 30/60 day rule (if that truly exists) and they were fine. Lastly, what if he simply said he had no intention to marry/stay yet spontaneously decided to stay due to the new circumstances. I can only assume he did horribly/looked suspicious at the interview.

 
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