DA decides against hate crime in gas station beating

[himher 634]

What you left out:

Racist anti-black bias is the most frequently reported hate crime motivation in the United States. Of the 8,208 hate crimes reported to the FBI in 2010, 48% were race related - with 70% of those having an anti-black bias.^[7]Other frequently reported bias motivations were anti-Hispanic, anti-Jewish, anti-Islamic, anti-white, and against a person's sexual orientation.^[7] At times, these bias motivations overlap, as violence can be both anti-gay and anti-black, for example.

What am I missing here?

I did not leave one single number out. Keep analyzing. I already said that 50.9% of hate crimes were committed by whites and only 21% by blacks. Blacks are not 21% of the population though nor are whites 51%. Raw number of crimes has nothing to do with demographically adjusted rates of committing them. That's why they get adjusted by the way. When they do, the numbers say that the black community is twice as likely to commit them. Sad huh

[himher 634]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amadou_Diallo_shooting

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oscar_Grant

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sean_Bell

I can keep going if you like.

On a side note, it would be nice if blacks weren't shot at for every little thing they do: http://www.memphisrap.com/2013/07/30/unarmed-florida-man-shot-at-17-times-by-police-in-driveway-outside-his-house/

Yet a white teenager high on drugs, fighting 9 cops, and ACTUALLY grabbing the policeman's firearm AND getting a shot off, is still alive and not a bullet hole in him. http://www.komonews.com/news/local/Police-Man-who-fired-officers-gun-at-city-hall-was-high-on-mushrooms-217499791.html

You know when you're 8 times more likely to kill someone there are bound to be consequences huh. You said never and I bunked you. Nice shift.

Edited September 14, 2013 by himher

[We Keep Receipts 9,238]

I did not leave one single number out. Keep analyzing. I already said that 50.9% of hate crimes were committed by whites and only 21% by blacks. Blacks are not 21% of the population though nor are whites 51%. Raw number of crimes has nothing to do with demographically adjusted rates of committing them. That's why they get adjusted by the way. When they do, the numbers say that the black community is twice as likely to commit them. Sad huh

What's sad is you keep ignoring what I say when it doesn't fit your narrative.

Look at some other numbers, like the income disparity between blacks and whites. Or the school systems between the two. Then get back at me.

You know when you're 8 times more likely to kill someone there are bound to be consequences huh

Who's more likely to commit a mass shooting? And last time I checked, each person is responsible for their own actions. Once again if I have to shoulder that burden, you should too.

[himher 634]

What's sad is you keep ignoring what I say when it doesn't fit your narrative.

Look at some other numbers, like the income disparity between blacks and whites. Or the school systems between the two. Then get back at me.

Who's more likely to commit a mass shooting? And last time I checked, each person is responsible for their own actions. Once again if I have to shoulder that burden, you should too.

Like hate crimes when you exclude random shootings into crowds at bus stops or club parking lots then certainly mass shootings are a white thing. BUT if they are included them and categorized them as to what they really are (random mass shootings) be honest and declare who actually is more likely?

For the record neither of us has to shoulder either burden

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[We Keep Receipts 9,238]

But I have to. I'm eight times more likely to kill someone, remember? But you can walk into a gun store and buy enough ammo to level a city block and no one would think twice about it. Even though mass shootings are committed by white people more than blacks, you will never be suspect. But by the very virtue of being black, I'll always be suspect.

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[The Nature Boy 4,224]

I don't hate white people, nor do the folks I associate with hate them. What I hate is this silly notion that we are on the same even playing field, and that blacks are solely responsible for their own demise. They have a part in it, but to say that racism isn't in there at all is ludicrous.

I think the reasons blacks don't get hit with hate crimes(guessing) is because we are already given longer sentences in terms of prison time. Killing a black person never gets you a lot of time. There have been cases where folks only serve 2 years or less for that, even getting acquitted and no time at all. And this might be one of the first ones here:

Was not implying that you or even most blacks hate white people. I just thought you would find her perspective interesting, her being new to this country.

I bet you a 1000 dollar bill, I have witnessed way more abhorrent racism than you have ever read about.

I admit not on the receiving end of it in most cases.

I was ahead of my time in the late 70's and 80's in my open attitude toward the black community

I was one of the first whites in my hometown to reach across the racial divide and go into what we use to call the "quarter" and buy weed. Once I opened that door other white kids followed

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

But I have to. I'm eight times more likely to kill someone, remember? But you can walk into a gun store and buy enough ammo to level a city block and no one would think twice about it. Even though mass shootings are committed by white people more than blacks, you will never be suspect. But by the very virtue of being black, I'll always be suspect.

You are eight times more likely...Are you a young black male?...Think not

Remember when I speak it is specifically about the problem with young black males.

You throw out that demographic and the stats are much more in line with the rest of the population

[Karee 4,191]

I was one of the first whites in my hometown to reach across the racial divide and go into what we use to call the "quarter" and buy weed. Once I opened that door other white kids followed

So you were one of those white guys we hear about going into the black community and committing crimes.

The former mayor of Detroit once said that most of the crime in Detroit was due to white people crossing 8 mile, committing crime, and then going back home.

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

So you were one of those white guys we hear about going into the black community and committing crimes.

The former mayor of Detroit once said that most of the crime in Detroit was due to white people crossing 8 mile, committing crime, and then going back home.

Well sir..I guess one could look at it from that angle. If drinking a 40Z bull and smoking a Doobie with a guy named Slack, is a crime then..Yes I am guilty.If only I had discovered the virtues of loose black women back then..Oh well one regret.

Up until now i had thought you were my spiritual leader of the drunken debauchery of misspent youth.

have I mis judged you Obi-wan

[Karee 4,191]

Well sir..I guess one could look at it from that angle. If drinking a 40Z bull and smoking a Doobie with a guy named Slack, is a crime then..Yes I am guilty.If only I had discovered the virtues of loose black women back then..Oh well one regret.

Up until now i had thought you were my spiritual leader of the drunken debauchery of misspent youth.

have I mis judged you Obi-wan

I'm joking. I just remember growing up in Detroit that every time the mayor got caught in some scam, he would just start blaming white people for everything. Once all the white people left, he still blamed them by saying they were coming back to the city just to commit crimes.

Playing the race card is a very powerful tool. I suspect alot of the folks in black leadership positions depend on that race card to keep their power. It allows them to blame someone else for their problems. God forbid they start looking within. That trial in Florida was a perfect example. The black community refused to accept that that kid got killed because he was assaulting someone. To them, it had to be all about race and nothing else.

Who is gonna give a $hit about a group of people that don't give a $hit about themselves? Not me that's for sure. Once they start accepting responsibility for the issues within their own community, then things will start to change for the better. Until then, they can keep blaming whitey for their kids killing each other and nothing at all will change.

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

My family is just as valuable as any family...even a black family. And a person should not get LESS punishment for killing my children than they would for killing black children. I oppose racial discrimination

[We Keep Receipts 9,238]

You are eight times more likely...Are you a young black male?...Think not

Remember when I speak it is specifically about the problem with young black males.

You throw out that demographic and the stats are much more in line with the rest of the population

Tell that to the 66 year old man who was shot at 17 times. They don't care man.

[We Keep Receipts 9,238]

I'm joking. I just remember growing up in Detroit that every time the mayor got caught in some scam, he would just start blaming white people for everything. Once all the white people left, he still blamed them by saying they were coming back to the city just to commit crimes.

Playing the race card is a very powerful tool. I suspect alot of the folks in black leadership positions depend on that race card to keep their power. It allows them to blame someone else for their problems. God forbid they start looking within. That trial in Florida was a perfect example. The black community refused to accept that that kid got killed because he was assaulting someone. To them, it had to be all about race and nothing else.

Who is gonna give a $hit about a group of people that don't give a $hit about themselves? Not me that's for sure. Once they start accepting responsibility for the issues within their own community, then things will start to change for the better. Until then, they can keep blaming whitey for their kids killing each other and nothing at all will change.

You mean kind of like the white community refuses to admit following someone at night, refusing to identify himself, or their intentions could lead to an altercation. 86% of the black community sees this. Why can't anyone else?

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

I'm joking. I just remember growing up in Detroit that every time the mayor got caught in some scam, he would just start blaming white people for everything. Once all the white people left, he still blamed them by saying they were coming back to the city just to commit crimes.

Playing the race card is a very powerful tool. I suspect alot of the folks in black leadership positions depend on that race card to keep their power. It allows them to blame someone else for their problems. God forbid they start looking within. That trial in Florida was a perfect example. The black community refused to accept that that kid got killed because he was assaulting someone. To them, it had to be all about race and nothing else.

Who is gonna give a $hit about a group of people that don't give a $hit about themselves? Not me that's for sure. Once they start accepting responsibility for the issues within their own community, then things will start to change for the better. Until then, they can keep blaming whitey for their kids killing each other and nothing at all will change.

i knew you were ...Good post..I don't see things getting better until they burn the race card deck, fire the race hustlers, and tell the emperor he is naked.

[himher 634]

What's sad is you keep ignoring what I say when it doesn't fit your narrative.

Look at some other numbers, like the income disparity between blacks and whites. Or the school systems between the two. Then get back at me.

Who's more likely to commit a mass shooting? And last time I checked, each person is responsible for their own actions. Once again if I have to shoulder that burden, you should too.

Your narrative doesn't fit any known facts.

There can ONLY be disparity between the people who attend different schools. School systems where the students and their parents don't give two chits about education are poorly performing school systems that turn out uneducated, unemployable students. School systems where the students and their parents (ESPECIALLY the parents) value the education that the school system provides perform well and the studends perform well. Poorly educated students have nothing to offer to employers and it is this / only this that causes the income disparity.

You actually want to sell this asinine idea that income disparity and "school district disparity" is the source of the black community's problems when the black community got picked up every day, brought to school, was handed books, was fed there (for free if needed), then carried home and yet somehow they didn't manage to actually learn enough to make them employable? This thread is about Baton Rouge dude. They're in their 30th year of busing desegregation. Now ALL the schools are substandard and instead of a 60-40 white to black ratio the entire city school system is now 11% white.

They got access to ALL the "good schools". Any change? Not a single one. It's not the fault of the piss-poor students who fcked off their education years though. It's those racist standardized tests!