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Hi all,

Once my child is granted their American passport with the CRBA, do I still need to include them on the I-864/I-864ez form I'll be including in my wife's IV package to the NVC? Or because they will be a U.S. citizen do they not need to be included on the form as being supported by me? I searched the forum for further clarification on this issue but couldn't really find anything. Thanks a lot.

Married in Edinburgh, Scotland: 07-06-2013

I-130 Package Sent to Chicago Lockbox: 09-04-2013

NOA1 from the National Benefits Center: 09-05-2013

I-130 Package Transferred to California Service Center: 02-25-2014

NOA2: 03-05-2014

NVC Received: 03-17-2014

Case # and IIN Assigned: 04-18-2014

DS-261 Generated and Completed: 04-26-2014

AOS Fee Invoiced and Paid: 04-29-2014

IV Fee Invoiced and Paid: 05-01-2014

AOS Fee Shows as Paid: 05-01-2014

IV Fee Shows as Paid: 05-05-2014

AOS and IV Packages Sent via UPS: 05-08-2014

AOS and IV Packages Received: 05-12-2014

AOS and IV Packages Input Into System: 05-14-2014

DS-260 Completed: 05-16-2014

Case Complete: 06-11-2014

Medical Exam: 07-08-2014

Interview in Warsaw, Poland: 08-28-2014 @ 8:30AM - APPROVED!

Visa Package Received: 09-01-2014

POE at Chicago O'Hare International Airport: 09-23-2014

I-751 Package Received: 07-11-2016

NOA1: 07-16-2016

I-751 Biometrics Apointment: 08-01-2016

ROC Approval (during citizenship interview): 12-20-2017

10-Year Green Card Received: N/A due to approved N-400

N-400 Filed Online: 08-28-2017

N-400 NOA1 Date: 08-29-2017

N-400 Biometrics Appointment: 09-22-2017

Status Changed to Interview Scheduled: 09-22-2017

Status Change to Interview Scheduled, read the letter we mailed: 11-15-2017

N-400 Interview: 12-20-2017 - APPROVED!

Oath of Allegiance Scheduled: 12-29-2017

Oath of Allegiance: 01-18-2018 

Posted

I meant can I still fill out Form I-864EZ, instead of the I-864, while still counting them as part of my household?

Married in Edinburgh, Scotland: 07-06-2013

I-130 Package Sent to Chicago Lockbox: 09-04-2013

NOA1 from the National Benefits Center: 09-05-2013

I-130 Package Transferred to California Service Center: 02-25-2014

NOA2: 03-05-2014

NVC Received: 03-17-2014

Case # and IIN Assigned: 04-18-2014

DS-261 Generated and Completed: 04-26-2014

AOS Fee Invoiced and Paid: 04-29-2014

IV Fee Invoiced and Paid: 05-01-2014

AOS Fee Shows as Paid: 05-01-2014

IV Fee Shows as Paid: 05-05-2014

AOS and IV Packages Sent via UPS: 05-08-2014

AOS and IV Packages Received: 05-12-2014

AOS and IV Packages Input Into System: 05-14-2014

DS-260 Completed: 05-16-2014

Case Complete: 06-11-2014

Medical Exam: 07-08-2014

Interview in Warsaw, Poland: 08-28-2014 @ 8:30AM - APPROVED!

Visa Package Received: 09-01-2014

POE at Chicago O'Hare International Airport: 09-23-2014

I-751 Package Received: 07-11-2016

NOA1: 07-16-2016

I-751 Biometrics Apointment: 08-01-2016

ROC Approval (during citizenship interview): 12-20-2017

10-Year Green Card Received: N/A due to approved N-400

N-400 Filed Online: 08-28-2017

N-400 NOA1 Date: 08-29-2017

N-400 Biometrics Appointment: 09-22-2017

Status Changed to Interview Scheduled: 09-22-2017

Status Change to Interview Scheduled, read the letter we mailed: 11-15-2017

N-400 Interview: 12-20-2017 - APPROVED!

Oath of Allegiance Scheduled: 12-29-2017

Oath of Allegiance: 01-18-2018 

Posted

You need to count them since they are your dependent child. Their citizenship has nothing to do with it.

Yes, you can file I-864EZ.

Thank you very much. I appreciate your help.

Married in Edinburgh, Scotland: 07-06-2013

I-130 Package Sent to Chicago Lockbox: 09-04-2013

NOA1 from the National Benefits Center: 09-05-2013

I-130 Package Transferred to California Service Center: 02-25-2014

NOA2: 03-05-2014

NVC Received: 03-17-2014

Case # and IIN Assigned: 04-18-2014

DS-261 Generated and Completed: 04-26-2014

AOS Fee Invoiced and Paid: 04-29-2014

IV Fee Invoiced and Paid: 05-01-2014

AOS Fee Shows as Paid: 05-01-2014

IV Fee Shows as Paid: 05-05-2014

AOS and IV Packages Sent via UPS: 05-08-2014

AOS and IV Packages Received: 05-12-2014

AOS and IV Packages Input Into System: 05-14-2014

DS-260 Completed: 05-16-2014

Case Complete: 06-11-2014

Medical Exam: 07-08-2014

Interview in Warsaw, Poland: 08-28-2014 @ 8:30AM - APPROVED!

Visa Package Received: 09-01-2014

POE at Chicago O'Hare International Airport: 09-23-2014

I-751 Package Received: 07-11-2016

NOA1: 07-16-2016

I-751 Biometrics Apointment: 08-01-2016

ROC Approval (during citizenship interview): 12-20-2017

10-Year Green Card Received: N/A due to approved N-400

N-400 Filed Online: 08-28-2017

N-400 NOA1 Date: 08-29-2017

N-400 Biometrics Appointment: 09-22-2017

Status Changed to Interview Scheduled: 09-22-2017

Status Change to Interview Scheduled, read the letter we mailed: 11-15-2017

N-400 Interview: 12-20-2017 - APPROVED!

Oath of Allegiance Scheduled: 12-29-2017

Oath of Allegiance: 01-18-2018 

  • 11 months later...
Posted

Thank you very much. I appreciate your help.

You need to count them since they are your dependent child. Their citizenship has nothing to do with it.

Yes, you can file I-864EZ.

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And the result is...?

Has that inclusive name of your non-immigrate children (since Child Citizenship of 2000 made them American automatically) work? Recent at ACS upstairs of NOAx in U.S.E. Manila, my wife and I had interview and CRBA + U.S. Passport was granted to our son. Now I am encounter the same problem whether inclusive our son's name to Part 3. 2a Family Member necessary, since he is not immigrate but traveling to America for first time.

Landed in Cagayan de Oro : August 4, 2007 (same Port where General Douglas MacArthur arrived as he escaped Japanese Naval)

Met in Assembly of God church : October 28, 2007

Civil Union Marriage : May 12, 2008

Birth of our son Ryker : November 8, 2010

CRBA interview, result: approval : August 20, 2014

CRBA + US Passport received: Sept. 11, 2014

USCIS DCF accepted @ U.S.E Manila: August 20, 2014

NOA2 via snail mail received, bypass G-1145 request: August 29, 2014 *LATE (Tsk-tsk, did you forgot to e-Notification us, USCIS?)

U.S.E Manila IV Unit assigned case #, notified us with Packet 3 : September 3, 2014

AOS (part for Packet 3) sent and received, from Applicant (me) to Beneficiary (my wife) : Sept 8-10, 2014

Medical examination @ SLEC) : passed : Sept 15, 2014

IV Interview : approved and issued : Sep19, 2014

Visa packet: next stop

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Mark 9:23, 24 ~ Αἴ δύνασαι, The most approved reading in English rendering is, If thou canst! All things are possible to him that believeth.

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General things in VJ is Do-It-Yourself site which we all would help, giving advices, pointers and tips. I would like to think those law practitioners-for-paid and legal guide (the navigator-for-hired) out there: those who might like us not to perform DIY but letting them do all legal paperworks, pretending s/he know the best route for shortcut or else to apply jurisdiction, e.g. under the table, are merely fable and cannot stop us. This is information age we are living. WE all have same knot to tie, same kind of anxiety, same kind of sweat, of facing judgmental day whether CO grant our visa or not. If you do what we did​ you will achieve nothing less but pride in your accomplishment.

Question for you: will you be willing go through all navigating to learn and study trial and errors of others and then apply toward your pathway to get U.S. visa? Even this means making feedback or giving input from your candid observation.

Posted (edited)

{Drumroll...}

And the result is...?

Has that inclusive name of your non-immigrate children (since Child Citizenship of 2000 made them American automatically) work? Recent at ACS upstairs of NOAx in U.S.E. Manila, my wife and I had interview and CRBA + U.S. Passport was granted to our son. Now I am encounter the same problem whether inclusive our son's name to Part 3. 2a Family Member necessary, since he is not immigrate but traveling to America for first time.

I have logical answer here, which found on Part 5. Item 4. "If you have dependent children, enter the number here." If I read elsewhere whether a child, whose confer CRBA and do not classify as Immigrant, then this child is exempt from taking medical examination. I will update that question brought up by someone else, through on other subject.

Back to CRBA and I-864 question. Here on page 4 of I-864 it said, "Your Household Size - DO NOT COUNT ANYONE TWICE...Persons NOT sponsored in this affidavit:.." Let go back to Part 3. Item 7 in page 3 it says: "Enter the total number of immigrants you are sponsoring on this form from Items 1 through 6." Instruction sheet of I-864 clearly stated on Part 3 tells me which made sense: any child whose status earned CRBA is NOT "sponsor alien." My son partly, after all, is American, not alien.

Alien child holding foreign passport is immigrant child; child holding CRBA plus U.S. Passport is America citizen child. Does that make sense?

Trivia on CRBA in modern age: William Jefferson Clinton signed Child Citizenship Act of 2000 while Gorge H. Bush issued executive order to streamline and strengthen CRBA.

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Edited by SilentOdyssey

Landed in Cagayan de Oro : August 4, 2007 (same Port where General Douglas MacArthur arrived as he escaped Japanese Naval)

Met in Assembly of God church : October 28, 2007

Civil Union Marriage : May 12, 2008

Birth of our son Ryker : November 8, 2010

CRBA interview, result: approval : August 20, 2014

CRBA + US Passport received: Sept. 11, 2014

USCIS DCF accepted @ U.S.E Manila: August 20, 2014

NOA2 via snail mail received, bypass G-1145 request: August 29, 2014 *LATE (Tsk-tsk, did you forgot to e-Notification us, USCIS?)

U.S.E Manila IV Unit assigned case #, notified us with Packet 3 : September 3, 2014

AOS (part for Packet 3) sent and received, from Applicant (me) to Beneficiary (my wife) : Sept 8-10, 2014

Medical examination @ SLEC) : passed : Sept 15, 2014

IV Interview : approved and issued : Sep19, 2014

Visa packet: next stop

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Mark 9:23, 24 ~ Αἴ δύνασαι, The most approved reading in English rendering is, If thou canst! All things are possible to him that believeth.

--------------------------------------------------------------------

General things in VJ is Do-It-Yourself site which we all would help, giving advices, pointers and tips. I would like to think those law practitioners-for-paid and legal guide (the navigator-for-hired) out there: those who might like us not to perform DIY but letting them do all legal paperworks, pretending s/he know the best route for shortcut or else to apply jurisdiction, e.g. under the table, are merely fable and cannot stop us. This is information age we are living. WE all have same knot to tie, same kind of anxiety, same kind of sweat, of facing judgmental day whether CO grant our visa or not. If you do what we did​ you will achieve nothing less but pride in your accomplishment.

Question for you: will you be willing go through all navigating to learn and study trial and errors of others and then apply toward your pathway to get U.S. visa? Even this means making feedback or giving input from your candid observation.

  • 3 years later...
Posted
On 8/30/2014 at 9:38 PM, SilentOdyssey said:

I have logical answer here, which found on Part 5. Item 4. "If you have dependent children, enter the number here." If I read elsewhere whether a child, whose confer CRBA and do not classify as Immigrant, then this child is exempt from taking medical examination. I will update that question brought up by someone else, through on other subject.

Back to CRBA and I-864 question. Here on page 4 of I-864 it said, "Your Household Size - DO NOT COUNT ANYONE TWICE...Persons NOT sponsored in this affidavit:.." Let go back to Part 3. Item 7 in page 3 it says: "Enter the total number of immigrants you are sponsoring on this form from Items 1 through 6." Instruction sheet of I-864 clearly stated on Part 3 tells me which made sense: any child whose status earned CRBA is NOT "sponsor alien." My son partly, after all, is American, not alien.

Alien child holding foreign passport is immigrant child; child holding CRBA plus U.S. Passport is America citizen child. Does that make sense?

Trivia on CRBA in modern age: William Jefferson Clinton signed Child Citizenship Act of 2000 while Gorge H. Bush issued executive order to streamline and strengthen CRBA.

post-175992-0-43630100-1409458810_thumb.jpg

post-175992-0-59547600-1409458940_thumb.jpg

post-175992-0-50963100-1409459411_thumb.jpg

Excellent information Richard! I'm working on to find the combination incomes of mine and CRBA sons regarding I-864 AOS if it's allowed to meet above the poverty line BECAUSE I have to count my boys based the household size of 4. :( 

 
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