Showdown on the streets of Washington DC

[Teddy B 17,252]

Why?

Because they're bikers and they're not Muslim. Geez Penny!

[We Keep Receipts 9,238]

GZ brought the towers down?

Welcome back Marvin.

You think it too? Glad I'm not the only one

Thanks

[Harsh_77 718]

Why?

Bikers are riding as a tribute to victims and fallen heroes of 9/11.

[Penny Lane 8,159]

Bikers are riding as a tribute to victims and fallen heroes of 9/11.

And so they deserve special treatment? Because 9/11?

[We Keep Receipts 9,238]

Washington post article did not say anything about them filing late, I think something like this should have an exception.

If they couldn't get their permit due to them being already taken, that means there were no more permits to give out. The MMM was planned well in advance due to the nature of the subject.

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

Plenty of them.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Architects_%26_Engineers_for_9/11_Truth

Check out their videos on YouTube with plenty of interviews from experts who have questions.

I would link to a couple but I'm still at work.

Listen, I am not a conspiracy theorist. I'm usually the first to roll my eyes at them. But I don't think it's ridiculous to ask questions or find certain answers unsatisfactory.

From your link:

It [Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth] supports the conspiracy theory that the World Trade Center was destroyed by explosive demolition.

As I said, I don't do conspiracy theories. Without a conspiracy (a massive conspiracy), there can't be a controlled demolition of the towers.

Your link backs that up.

[Penny Lane 8,159]

From your link:

It [Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth] supports the conspiracy theory that the World Trade Center was destroyed by explosive demolition.

As I said, I don't do conspiracy theories. Without a conspiracy (a massive conspiracy), there can't be a controlled demolition of the towers.

Your link backs that up.

I don't do conspiracy theories either. Doesn't mean I don't question things or think "hey, yeah, I wonder why _______"

The organization has compiled a list of criteria for a controlled demolition that it says the collapse of the World Trade Center meets: the destruction followed the path of greatest resistance, the debris was symmetrically distributed, the rapid onset of the destruction, explosions and flashes reported by witnesses, steel elements were expelled from the building at high speed, the pulverization of the concrete, expanding pyroclastic clouds, lack of pancaked stories in the debris, isolated explosions 20 to 40 stories below the wave of destruction, molten steel and thermite traces found in the debris.^[12]

Their evidence interests me enough to want to know/hear more about it. That's all. It doesn't necessarily mean I'll believe it, but it makes me curious.

Edited September 10, 2013 by Penny Lane

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

No, I wasn't. Having the police called on you for a domestic battery and brandishing a gun is being in trouble. The only reason he wasn't arrested and charged is because his wife decided not to press charges.

You still having comprehending problems

A. He did not brandish a gun

B. The reason he was not charged was because she was proven to be lying.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/shellie-zimmerman-tells-fla-police-her-husband-george-did-not-threaten-her/2013/09/10/dbed94e8-1a19-11e3-8685-5021e0c41964_story.html

Shellie Zimmerman tells Fla. police her husband George did not threaten her

excerpt

"But for the time being, “domestic violence can’t be invoked because she has changed her story and says she didn’t see a firearm,” [Lake Mary, Fla. Police Chief Steve] Bracknell said" . . .

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

I don't do conspiracy theories either. Doesn't mean I don't question things or think "hey, yeah, I wonder why _______"

Their evidence interests me enough to want to know/hear more about it. That's all.

But the only experts that you have to hinge your suspicion on are subscribing to conspiracy theories. Their evidence is based on the presumption of a massive conspiracy. They're quite open about it.

[Penny Lane 8,159]

But the only experts that you have to hinge your suspicion on are subscribing to conspiracy theories. Their evidence is based on the presumption of a massive conspiracy. They're quite open about it.

Their assumption doesn't matter to me. It isn't their assumption that interests me, it's their expertise and the evidence that they're questioning that I find interesting.

I am not one of those "9/11 was an inside job!" people, I'm an "I think there are certain things that weren't properly answered and I'd love to hear more about them" person.

Edited September 10, 2013 by Penny Lane

[Harsh_77 718]

If they couldn't get their permit due to them being already taken, that means there were no more permits to give out. The MMM was planned well in advance due to the nature of the subject.

Are you willing to believe that officials could not make an exception if they wanted to?

[Penny Lane 8,159]

Are you willing to believe that officials could not make an exception if they wanted to?

Are you willing to believe that officials NOT making that exception somehow means the administration is against them?

[Harsh_77 718]

And so they deserve special treatment? Because 9/11?

Tribute to 9/11 is a special reason

Event that changed the whole nation

Edited September 10, 2013 by Harsh_77

[We Keep Receipts 9,238]

Are you willing to believe that officials could not make an exception if they wanted to?

Why do you only think in absolutes? There is always an exception to the rules.

But the denial might be because their ride is counter point to the MMM:

In a response to the Million Muslim March taking place on September 11, thousands of motorcyclists are converging on Washington D.C. to pay their respects to the victims, heroes, survivors and the dead.

[Harsh_77 718]

Are you willing to believe that officials NOT making that exception somehow means the administration is against them?

Bikers were refused No-Stop permit – which means officials did not want that rally to happen instead they were asked to continue as rest of the traffic.

That is lame excuse all the permits were given out.