Need HELP from EXPERIENCED VJ members out there with Thai experience for K1 visa???

[Girl from Celebes 588]

Have you ever thought about the quotes you include from Sun Tzu? Tactics without strategy? Isnt that exactly what you have done here by advising the OP as you did?

Please stop putting out this advise as though it were correct or even applied to her situation. You have helped her or rather the USC file a case with no thought to the most important aspect . Support for example.

What exactly do you think she should now about the problem of support? Should they have paid the fees and filed the case with no knowledge of the end result? Go back and read what you said.

Then read again her post about the reality of the present situation.

Tactics without strategy? Please.

I've could been said to her just stop her application, I think that was you meant. Read all her posts in order if you wanted to know all situation. I've been in Visa Journey for almost 2 years and my fiance and I just filed last month. I read everyday on visa journey what other experiences.See yourself what does it means. Learn and live with it!

For the OP situation, again, read each post. I could've just gave any advise whatever I want. But, I do know the beneficiary comes from different country from mine. So, I gave her many options of help. I believe in good karma if you know what I mean, or maybe you don't believe it at all. That's all your choice. Have a good day!.

Edited September 7, 2013 by Girl from Celebes

[Ning 619]

I've could been said to her just stop her application, I think that was you meant. Read all her posts in order if you wanted to know all situation. I've been in Visa Journey for almost 2 years and my fiance and I just filed last month. I read everyday on visa journey what other experiences.See yourself what does it means. Learn and live with it!

For the OP situation, again, read each post. I could've just gave any advise whatever I want. But, I do know the beneficiary comes from different country from mine. So, I gave her many options of help. I believe in good karma if you know what I mean, or maybe you don't believe it at all. That's all your choice. Have a good day!.

Why didn't you tell her to stop? She said her fiancé cant provide support at the level required. She said she thought they could use a co sponsor. She gave you all the correct info to arrive at the correct advise in her exact situation.

They shouldn't have filed the case until they fully understood the support issues as they relate to Thailand.

You never said one single word about the most important aspect of the case. Tactics and strategy? Noise before defeat? What about that?

The rest of what you wrote is ridiculous. Karma? You believe in good karma? What about the concept of bad karma?

I am done with this now. Learn to live with what you have done before you attempt to lecture others. Take responsibility for what YOU do.

[Girl from Celebes 588]

Why didn't you tell her to stop? She said her fiancé cant provide support at the level required. She said she thought they could use a co sponsor. She gave you all the correct info to arrive at the correct advise in her exact situation.

They shouldn't have filed the case until they fully understood the support issues as they relate to Thailand.

You never said one single word about the most important aspect of the case. Tactics and strategy? Noise before defeat? What about that?

The rest of what you wrote is ridiculous. Karma? You believe in good karma? What about the concept of bad karma?

I am done with this now. Learn to live with what you have done before you attempt to lecture others. Take responsibility for what YOU do.

Have you read all her posts? She just found about it after she sent out the application. If she told this forum all of her situation "before" her fiance sent it out, I could've just told her to talk to my friends Nic or Joonphon. Again, read each her posts and my respons to her.

[Nicoco 26]

Hey OP I will message you

[Girl from Celebes 588]

Hey OP I will message you

Hi Nic, thank you for coming here.

[Ning 619]

Have you read all her posts? She just found about it after she sent out the application. If she told this forum all of her situation "before" her fiance sent it out, I could've just told her to talk to my friends Nic or Joonphon. Again, read each her posts and my respons to her.

Go back to Sept 4th. Read the last post. Then tell me you have read all the posts.

You began on the 5th. She said they were sending in the petition. Go back to the 4th again and ask yourself why they should do that on the 5th.

Ask your friend Nic who helped her with her situation. It wasn't you I am sure of that. You probably should have told the O P to talk to her first. Karma?

[Girl from Celebes 588]

Go back to Sept 4th. Read the last post. Then tell me you have read all the posts.

You began on the 5th. She said they were sending in the petition. Go back to the 4th again and ask yourself why they should do that on the 5th.

Ask your friend Nic who helped her with her situation. It wasn't you I am sure of that. You probably should have told the O P to talk to her first. Karma?

I am sorry, I wasn't aware of her previous thread and did not read it until you told me. On 05 September 2013 - 12:01 PM post #17, before her fiance sent out the application I asked her to talk to Nic.

"If you have a time, go to my friends list. I have a friend there also from Thailand. She's already married to Thai. You probably need some tips from her since her then-fiance also from Thailand".

That's what I told her. Big apologize!

[Ning 619]

I am sorry, I wasn't aware of her previous thread and did not read it until you told me. On 05 September 2013 - 12:01 PM post #17, before her fiance sent out the application I asked her to talk to Nic.

"If you have a time, go to my friends list. I have a friend there also from Thailand. She's already married to Thai. You probably need some tips from her since her then-fiance also from Thailand".

That's what I told her. Big apologize!

Maybe what can be learned here is to realize there is more to this than you might think. I know you meant well and I know she just didn't understand the total circumstance she was about to enter into. This is exactly why I tried to let her know.

Lets try to help her figure out what is best to do now. I have sent her some info to think over that should help her and the fiancé understand better what they can do.

I do believe in Karma and hope you now see it in what has taken place. Ask your friend and mine, Nicollet about this. Then put me on your friend list if you want.

[Girl from Celebes 588]

Maybe what can be learned here is to realize there is more to this than you might think. I know you meant well and I know she just didn't understand the total circumstance she was about to enter into. This is exactly why I tried to let her know.

Lets try to help her figure out what is best to do now. I have sent her some info to think over that should help her and the fiancé understand better what they can do.

I do believe in Karma and hope you now see it in what has taken place. Ask your friend and mine, Nicollet about this. Then put me on your friend list if you want.

Thank you for the big lesson. . Sorry if I my words are unpleasant for you.

[Ning 619]

Thank you for the big lesson. . Sorry if I my words are unpleasant for you.

In this immigration ordeal there is a lot to be learned by all of us including me. Believe me I have made some too.

We will see in this case what will happen when this issue of support comes up. The problem is only two people have to live with that outcome.

I can tell you and others that in at least 4 cases I know of co sponsors were accepted. I helped in each of those so I know what took place first hand. I am hoping this couple will understand what I said to them and at least try to implement the ideas if they are too have any chance at success. To submit the case without doing anything other than the normal things will result in a denial in my opinion.

These cases are truly unique. Therefore those unique qualities can sometimes be used to overcome difficulties. For example the USC in this case is a student that will graduate in March. That coupled with the fact they can file the AOS one day after they marry. This means the real time of the support problem isn't really that long because they CAN use a co sponsor with the 864 during the AOS.

Presenting all of this in the right way can spell success in the issue of support. The key is to get the officer to see the level of understanding about the process and the timing of that as it relates to this unique situation.

Let me know if this makes sense to you now and if you agree something along these lines will be the best chance they have in a K 1 case where the embassy doesn't usually accept co sponsors.

[Girl from Celebes 588]

In this immigration ordeal there is a lot to be learned by all of us including me. Believe me I have made some too.

We will see in this case what will happen when this issue of support comes up. The problem is only two people have to live with that outcome.

I can tell you and others that in at least 4 cases I know of co sponsors were accepted. I helped in each of those so I know what took place first hand. I am hoping this couple will understand what I said to them and at least try to implement the ideas if they are too have any chance at success. To submit the case without doing anything other than the normal things will result in a denial in my opinion.

These cases are truly unique. Therefore those unique qualities can sometimes be used to overcome difficulties. For example the USC in this case is a student that will graduate in March. That coupled with the fact they can file the AOS one day after they marry. This means the real time of the support problem isn't really that long because they CAN use a co sponsor with the 864 during the AOS.

Presenting all of this in the right way can spell success in the issue of support. The key is to get the officer to see the level of understanding about the process and the timing of that as it relates to this unique situation.

Let me know if this makes sense to you now and if you agree something along these lines will be the best chance they have in a K 1 case where the embassy doesn't usually accept co sponsors.

I could not agree more. These explanation open my mind to see others that face difficulties during their immigration process. Big thank you for this.