Evolution vs God. New viral vid has Atheists Pissed

[Penny Lane 8,159]

GRanted there is growth of Atheisim in the west, but there are many studies which show world wide it is not, and it will be in decline due to several factors.

-Countries which have the most Athiests are not reproducing in suffciant numbers to even replace themselves, the growth those countries do enjoy will come from non-whites. 37% of Atheist NEVER EVEN MARRY.

IN other words you have two main groups of Atheists, Whites and some Asians. Whites are in decline and those with the most growth seem to be the most fertile.

Even in this country we see the same thing, the more faith you have the more kids you have (Mormons leading the pack).

Asia, Faith is growing in China, right now there are more Christians in China than members of the Communist party, so that huge Block of Atheism might see a continued rise in Religion.

A number books have been written on it. http://www.amazon.com/Jesus-Beijing-Christianity-Changing-Balance/dp/0895261286

If you have even seen photos of Atheists gathering it is basically a bunch of White guys who we know by research are in the lowest bracket of fertility.

(That being -White, educated, Atheist).

Atheists also have the LOWEST rate of retention, kids raised Atheist only retain that faith at the 30%.

http://nineteensixty-four.blogspot.com/2012/06/reverts-catholics-who-left-and-came.html

If you are really interested in the topic, listen to this guys research and he will make you second guess your assumptions.

In all of this ####### that you just spewed at me, does any of it back up your claim that atheists are shriveling in numbers?

Where did you get this 37% of atheists never marry number?

[decocker 7,198]

Atheists also have the LOWEST rate of retention, kids raised Atheist only retain that faith at the 30%.

http://nineteensixty-four.blogspot.com/2012/06/reverts-catholics-who-left-and-came.html

atheism is not a faith.

most, if not all, of the atheist parents i know raise their children to determine their own beliefs.

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

The reason is that some apply 'logic' when dealing with mythology. In that manner you can prove god exists using the same supporting arguments that can prove the existence of unicorns, leprechauns, Zeus, Chronos, Poseidon, Hera and the entire pantheon.

One easy way to send these individuals into a deadly embrace is to propose the following:

1/ I will be happy to disprove the existence of god, if you can prove first, that it does exist. You made the claim, you present the proof.

2/ If you succeed in #1, then prove there are no other gods besides the one the existence of which you just proved.

In some cases you can actually hear the echo of both neurons firing inside their skulls...

The scientific method is a logical fallacy.

[JohnR! 5,495]

The scientific method is a logical fallacy.

I saved 15% on my car insurance!

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

I saved 15% on my car insurance!

Good for you!

[JohnR! 5,495]

In all of this ####### that you just spewed at me, does any of it back up your claim that atheists are shriveling in numbers?

Where did you get this 37% of atheists never marry number?

Whaddya mean 'back up your claim'?

If you have faith you don't need no backing up anything....

[OnMyWayID 1,489]

I love it when a thread splooges all at once. Sadly lunch is calling.

You all have a good weekend - well some of you have a crappy Sunday ahead of you.. Have a good Saturday anyway.

[SMOKE 1,426]

Whaddya mean 'back up your claim'?

If you have faith you don't need no backing up anything....

so, are you saying atheist have faith in their beliefs or they're just full of sh!t & don't like being called on it?

[Danno 1,228]

One reason Atheists might try to 'enlighten' the religious is that the religious tend to apply their religion to the rights of others. There isn't a non-religious reason for people to be against gay marriage, for one example.

I get what you are saying but you made a poor example, as there are lots of reasons for unbelievers to be concerned about gay marriage.

One of the biggest being our society exists as we know because of the family structure.

Gay marriage and where it goes beyond that changes our society dramatically.

Consider the Changes which have taken place in the Black community in the last half century and the fall-out we are now seeing

with no plan on how to back up.

[JohnR! 5,495]

so, are you saying atheist have faith in their beliefs or they're just full of sh!t & don't like being called on it?

You have to ask that to the poster whose comment's response I commented.

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[SMOKE 1,426]

You have to ask that to the poster whose question's response I was commenting.

i'm asking the poster with the FSM in their siggy. you feel strongly enough to insult people with religion. why not answer?

[Danno 1,228]

atheism is not a faith.

most, if not all, of the atheist parents i know raise their children to determine their own beliefs.

-Atheist take a stand on something they have no proof of, call it faith or assumption but it would seem the NON-FAITH position would be agnostic.

-Oddly enough only 30% of their kids follow that believe that God can't exist (even though we can't know for sure yet).

[Penny Lane 8,159]

so, are you saying atheist have faith in their beliefs or they're just full of sh!t & don't like being called on it?

Considering your signature, I think it's safe to say that you're a bit clueless when it comes to the topic of atheism.

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

St. Thomas Aquinas: The Existence of God can be proved in five ways.

Argument Analysis of the Five Ways © 2004 Theodore Gracyk

The First Way: Argument from Motion

Our senses prove that some things are in motion.

Things move when potential motion becomes actual motion.

Only an actual motion can convert a potential motion into an actual motion.

Nothing can be at once in both actuality and potentiality in the same respect (i.e., if both actual and potential, it is actual in one respect and potential in another).

Therefore nothing can move itself.

Therefore each thing in motion is moved by something else.

The sequence of motion cannot extend ad infinitum.

Therefore it is necessary to arrive at a first mover, put in motion by no other; and this everyone understands to be God.

The Second Way: Argument from Efficient Causes

We perceive a series of efficient causes of things in the world.

Nothing exists prior to itself.

Therefore nothing is the efficient cause of itself.

If a previous efficient cause does not exist, neither does the thing that results.

Therefore if the first thing in a series does not exist, nothing in the series exists.

The series of efficient causes cannot extend ad infinitum into the past, for then there would be no things existing now.

Therefore it is necessary to admit a first efficient cause, to which everyone gives the name of God.

The Third Way: Argument from Possibility and Necessity (Reductio argument)

We find in nature things that are possible to be and not to be, that come into being and go out of being i.e., contingent beings.

Assume that every being is a contingent being.

For each contingent being, there is a time it does not exist.

Therefore it is impossible for these always to exist.

Therefore there could have been a time when no things existed.

Therefore at that time there would have been nothing to bring the currently existing contingent beings into existence.

Therefore, nothing would be in existence now.

We have reached an absurd result from assuming that every being is a contingent being.

Therefore not every being is a contingent being.

Therefore some being exists of its own necessity, and does not receive its existence from another being, but rather causes them. This all men speak of as God.

The Fourth Way: Argument from Gradation of Being

There is a gradation to be found in things: some are better or worse than others.

Predications of degree require reference to the uttermost case (e.g., a thing is said to be hotter according as it more nearly resembles that which is hottest).

The maximum in any genus is the cause of all in that genus.

Therefore there must also be something which is to all beings the cause of their being, goodness, and every other perfection; and this we call God.

The Fifth Way: Argument from Design

We see that natural bodies work toward some goal, and do not do so by chance.

Most natural things lack knowledge.

But as an arrow reaches its target because it is directed by an archer, what lacks intelligence achieves goals by being directed by something intelligence.

Therefore some intelligent being exists by whom all natural things are directed to their end; and this being we call God.

http://web.mnstate.edu/gracyk/courses/web%20publishing/aquinasfiveways_argumentanalysis.htm

[JohnR! 5,495]

i'm asking the poster with the FSM in their siggy. you feel strongly enough to insult people with religion. why not answer?

I don't have proxy to answer for other people. You should consider asking the poster whose comment's comment I commented.