Evolution vs God. New viral vid has Atheists Pissed

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

I don't know about the recruiting efforts, I went through the pile of Awake! Watchtower and other dogma piled in my garage but I did not come across the atheist pamphlets.They must not be making the rounds this month. I found a math book maybe that's close? I'll get some blasphemy stickers and make sure its properly labeled to protect the children.

If people start using the Tooth fairy as a reason to change the school curriculum, judge my behavior, and take vast amounts of land tax free for gathering spots for the Fairy believers then I might having something critical to say about them. I am encouraged to see you place them in the same group.

From Penny's link:

Another possible factor may be the number of atheists within organized efforts by American atheist groups to encourage those who do not believe in God to say so publicly. The Out Campaign, a project of the Richard Dawkins Foundation for Reason and Science, was launched in 2007 and has since been endorsed by several national atheist groups.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/14/atheism-rise-religiosity-decline-in-america_n_1777031.html

[Penny Lane 8,159]

Nobody can logically say that atheists are shriveling in numbers. They may want that to be true, but it simply isn't.

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

Scientists and in particular eminent scientists are mostly atheists, perhaps the only demographic in the [/size][/font][/color]West in which this occurs[/size]

Not true - from the cited source -

According to the poll, just over half of scientists (51%) believe in some form of deity or higher power; specifically, 33% of scientists say they believe in God, while 18% believe in a universal spirit or higher power. By contrast, 95% of Americans believe in some form of deity or higher power, according to a survey of the general public conducted by the Pew Research Center in July 2006.

http://www.pewforum.org/2009/11/05/scientists-and-belief/

[OnMyWayID 1,489]

Atheists comprised an estimated 2.01% ... of the world population, according to The World Factbook in 2010.[1]

It's a very exclusive club.. I understand there is a large sub membership of agnostics and other members who have a religious label applied to keep grandma happy but have not set foot near a place of worship in over a decade...

[JohnR! 5,495]

The thing that cracks me up is Atheists, they must really believe way down inside, why would so many of them go to such lenghts to

-Prove no god exists

No atheist worth his or her salt would spend any time trying to prove god's existence. It is a physical impossibility to prove a negative.

By your own rationale then, it is quite likely that all the religious persons deep down inside know there to be no god, for so many of them go to such lengths to prove god's existence. Perhaps you should try and click your heels three times. You may end us in Kansas, god willing....

Edited September 6, 2013 by Gegel

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

It's a very exclusive club.. I understand there is a large sub membership of agnostics and other members who have a religious label applied to keep grandma happy but have not set foot near a place of worship in over a decade...

People can be "religious" without participating in, or identifying themselves with, organized religion. A Neo-Paganism seems to be thriving on the West Coast - "Burning Man" is a clear example.

[Penny Lane 8,159]

Not true - from the cited source -

There are more atheists in the scientific world than there are in the general population.

• One-third of scientists said they believed in God, compared to 83 percent of the general public surveyed.
• Nearly one-fifth reported not believing in God but having faith in a higher power (general public came in at 12 percent).
• Roughly two-fifths said they didn't believe in a God or higher power (4 percent among the general public).

Why does a flock of the science faithful not subscribe to God?

http://science.howstuffworks.com/dictionary/famous-scientists/astronomers/all-great-scientific-thinkers-atheist1.htm

Anyway, this doesn't matter, and isn't what I'm arguing. I'm arguing that it's absolutely inaccurate that atheists are "shriveling in numbers"

[OnMyWayID 1,489]

From Penny's link:

You see the difference right? Asking me to speak out about my current beliefs is different that telling me what to think and browbeating conformity.

[JohnR! 5,495]

People can be "religious" without participating in, or identifying themselves with, organized religion. A Neo-Paganism seems to be thriving on the West Coast - "Burning Man" is a clear example.

People can be religious all they want. It does not prove the existence of any god.

[Penny Lane 8,159]

I don't understand the "prove God doesn't exist" attitude.

I don't believe in unicorns either. How do you prove one doesn't exist?

Since when is the burden of proof on the doubter rather than the claimer?

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

People can be religious all they want. It does not prove the existence of any god.

Apples can be sour. It does not prove Target serves breakfast after 10 am.

[Danno 1,228]

Is that what you honestly believe is happening? Atheists are "shriveling in numbers"?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/14/atheism-rise-religiosity-decline-in-america_n_1777031.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_atheism

The numbers of atheists, or non religious is rising.

And what lengths are you talking about? What are they doing to hinder others from following their faith? Are they showing up at your door to preach to you?

GRanted there is growth of Atheisim in the west, but there are many studies which show world wide it is not, and it will be in decline due to several factors.

-Countries which have the most Athiests are not reproducing in suffciant numbers to even replace themselves, the growth those countries do enjoy will come from non-whites. 37% of Atheist NEVER EVEN MARRY.

IN other words you have two main groups of Atheists, Whites and some Asians. Whites are in decline and those with the most growth seem to be the most fertile.

Even in this country we see the same thing, the more faith you have the more kids you have (Mormons leading the pack).

Asia, Faith is growing in China, right now there are more Christians in China than members of the Communist party, so that huge Block of Atheism might see a continued rise in Religion.

A number books have been written on it. http://www.amazon.com/Jesus-Beijing-Christianity-Changing-Balance/dp/0895261286

If you have even seen photos of Atheists gathering it is basically a bunch of White guys who we know by research are in the lowest bracket of fertility.

(That being -White, educated, Atheist).

Atheists also have the LOWEST rate of retention, kids raised Atheist only retain that faith at the 30%.

http://nineteensixty-four.blogspot.com/2012/06/reverts-catholics-who-left-and-came.html

If you are really interested in the topic, listen to this guys research and he will make you second guess your assumptions.

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

I don't understand the "prove God doesn't exist" attitude.

I don't believe in unicorns either. How do you prove one doesn't exist?

Since when is the burden of proof on the doubter rather than the claimer?

My feeling is that if you find the need to believe in a higher power, or collective consciousness, or a bunch of gods living on a mountain, there is no requirement to prove it to the rest of the world, nor is the rest of the world obligated to prove you are wrong.

Edited September 6, 2013 by The Patriot

[JohnR! 5,495]

I don't understand the "prove God doesn't exist" attitude.

I don't believe in unicorns either. How do you prove one doesn't exist?

Since when is the burden of proof on the doubter rather than the claimer?

The reason is that some apply 'logic' when dealing with mythology. In that manner you can prove god exists using the same supporting arguments that can prove the existence of unicorns, leprechauns, Zeus, Chronos, Poseidon, Hera and the entire pantheon.

One easy way to send these individuals into a deadly embrace is to propose the following:

1/ I will be happy to disprove the existence of god, if you can prove first, that it does exist. You made the claim, you present the proof.

2/ If you succeed in #1, then prove there are no other gods besides the one the existence of which you just proved.

In some cases you can actually hear the echo of both neurons firing inside their skulls...

Edited September 6, 2013 by Gegel

[duraaraa 203]

We hear what you are saying..... if we die and nothing happens, we won't even realize it (cuzz nothing happened).

However if you are wrong ....and the vast majority of people on earth are right...... you in a world of Sh-t.

The thing that cracks me up is Atheists, they must really believe way down inside, why would so many of them go to such lenghts to

-Prove no god exists

-Hinder others from following their faith.

I mean, I don't believe in the Tooth Fairy but I don't make videos, write books or even post on websites debating people who do.

As Atheists shrivel in numbers I suppose they need recruits.

One reason Atheists might try to 'enlighten' the religious is that the religious tend to apply their religion to the rights of others. There isn't a non-religious reason for people to be against gay marriage, for one example.

Personally, I could care less what people believe personally. What I care about is what the inspiration is for laws, rules, and regulations that we must abide by. If those rules are inspired only by religious doctrine and don't serve any purpose other than appeasing a god, I have a problem with it.

Edited September 6, 2013 by duraaraa