Consensus, then about-face from Obama on Syria

[Jacque67 7,328]

Kerry suffers delusions from having his wazoo tapped by too many Sheiks. The man's ####### smacks when he walks & his azz is covered in various Sheiks name tattoos.

Do you know something we don't? Were you at one of these parties?

[Crashed~N2~Me 970]

IMO - We the People are not in to kissing Israeli buttocks anymore...but...We the People are tired of the Islamic Zombie Horror Picture Show.

That adds up to - (if) We the People can see Islamic Zombies suffer whoopazz = Whip it! Whip it real good!

FSA = Sorcerer chasing Saudi sponsored Sunni Islamic Zombies intent on installing another Sharia Totalitarianism.

O is a Saudi prostitute if he attacks Syria solo = won't play well for the Dems in the end.

Did this have any relevance? I'm not sure but ....

Do you know something we don't? Were you at one of these parties?

I just try to paint a vivid picture. Sorry if it offends but I have been desensitized & am not really PC anymore.

Edited September 2, 2013 by Crashed~N2~Me

[Jacque67 7,328]

IMO - We the People are not in to kissing Israeli buttocks anymore...but...We the People are tired of the Islamic Zombie Horror Picture Show.

That adds up to - (if) We the People can see Islamic Zombies suffer whoopazz = Whip it! Whip it real good!

FSA = Sorcerer chasing Saudi sponsored Sunni Islamic Zombies intent on installing another Sharia Totalitarianism.

O is a Saudi prostitute if he attacks Syria solo = won't play well for the Dems in the end.

Did this have any relevance? I'm not sure but ....

I just try to paint a vivid picture. Sorry if it offends but I have been desensitized & am not really PC anymore.

You are hilarious!

How have you been desensitized , pray?

[Crashed~N2~Me 970]

You are hilarious!

How have you been desensitized , pray?

Thank you!

Seriously? ....Perpetual disappointment.

[Jacque67 7,328]

Thank you!

Seriously? ....Perpetual disappointment.

Oh dear! Are you a writer by profession? I like the Hag story. You have a certain flair with words.

[Crashed~N2~Me 970]

Oh dear! Are you a writer by profession? I like the Hag story. You have a certain flair with words.

I am not. Just expressing myself without fear driven social acceptance pressure. I am reasonably safe here.

Thank you re: Hag story! I tried to make the surreal tangible bcoz it is our reality.

(I am not joking when I state) You are making me blush. (A humble) Thank you.

[lostinblue 1,989]

“This is amateur hour,” Krauthammer said, “and if you were sitting in Syria, Iraq, or Moscow watching this speech, then it looked like Obama was looking for a way out of striking Syria after he had boxed himself in“.

"This is amateur hour,” The last few years made it very clear....

[Crashed~N2~Me 970]

“This is amateur hour,” Krauthammer said, “and if you were sitting in Syria, Iraq, or Moscow watching this speech, then it looked like Obama was looking for a way out of striking Syria after he had boxed himself in“.

"This is amateur hour,” The last few years made it very clear....

Krauthammer nailed it.

O is a perpetual face palm. The name Jimmy Carter rolls off my tongue easier.

[PalestineMyHeart 1,897]

Oh the outrage.

Now that Obama has turned to Congress to authorize force against Syria, he is under relentless attack in Israel, with a chorus of pundits and politicians hammering him for his act of betrayal and cowardice in the face of evil.

Krauthammer is yet another of these Zionist cheerleaders. Is it any surprise he would be making the rounds, slamming Obama for any deviation from the Likudnik agenda ?

It goes kinda like this:

The moaning of the jealous mistress to inflict a sense of guilt, “you do not love me enough, you don’t care about me ….I have to take care of myself, blah blah” will be the mantra. Will Israel’s lover leave her and return to the care of his family?

[PalestineMyHeart 1,897]

Zionist whining continues, complete with allusions to the Holocaust:

Israel

The government did not comment officially on Obama's decision to seek the support of Congress for an attack on President Bashar al-Assad's regime, but some Israelis expressed dismay or even outrage, concluding that the US could no longer be trusted to defend red lines in relation to Iran's nuclear programme.

"The American hesitance, and the rest of the world's hypocrisy confirms the concern that when it comes to maintaining its security, Israel should not trust others and their promises, but must be prepared to protect its own security interests," said Avi Wortzman, the deputy education minister.

Writing on his Facebook page before Obama's statement, the economics and trade minister Naftali Bennett said: "The international stuttering and hesitancy on Syria just proves once more that Israel cannot count on anyone but itself. From Munich 1938 to Damascus 2013 nothing has changed. This is the lesson we ought to learn from the events in Syria."

For the military analyst Alex Fishman, writing in Yedioth Ahronoth, the lesson was similar: "If we find ourselves in a crisis with Iran, no one in the world is going to be prepared to move a single plane on our behalf. At best, we'll receive verbal support."

Ron Ben-Yishai, the paper's veteran war correspondent, said: "President Obama blinked, and this is bad. It is bad for the US's interests, it's bad for its allies' interests and it sends an encouraging message to cruel, unrestrained regimes that possess or don't possess weapons of mass destruction."

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/sep/01/syria-air-strikes-obama-congress-world-reaction

Of course, no one is supposed to mention governments that murder civilians with white phosphorus and depleted uranium and flechette shells....

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

The fear has become reality. The Kenyan Obama has defeated the Celtic Obama and the Germanic Obama.

[Jacque67 7,328]

The fear has become reality. The Kenyan Obama has defeated the Celtic Obama and the Germanic Obama.

LMAO!

And Krauthammer! #######?

Zionist whining continues, complete with allusions to the Holocaust:

Of course, no one is supposed to mention governments that murder civilians with white phosphorus and depleted uranium and flechette shells....

Shalom!

[Karee 4,190]

Zionist whining continues, complete with allusions to the Holocaust:

Of course, no one is supposed to mention governments that murder civilians with white phosphorus and depleted uranium and flechette shells....

Your posts surprise me sometimes. I'd think by now you understood the deal. Muslims killing other Muslims and committing atrocities is not ok. And it shouldn't be ok.

The IDF killing civilians with the full military and financial support of the U.S. govt. is perfectly fine. As long as the AIPAC dollars keep rolling in that is. Also, they Israelis get to play the Holocaust card whenever it suits their agenda. Nothing can top that. They can use that as a "get out of jail free card" for just about anything.

I'm convinced that the IDF could detonate a nuclear device in the west bank, and nothing substantial would be done about it. There would be a bunch of outrage and banging of fists on the table, but not much else.

[PalestineMyHeart 1,897]

Your posts surprise me sometimes. I'd think by now you understood the deal. Muslims killing other Muslims and committing atrocities is not ok. And it shouldn't be ok.

The IDF killing civilians with the full military and financial support of the U.S. govt. is perfectly fine. As long as the AIPAC dollars keep rolling in that is. Also, they Israelis get to play the Holocaust card whenever it suits their agenda. Nothing can top that. They can use that as a "get out of jail free card" for just about anything.

I'm convinced that the IDF could detonate a nuclear device in the west bank, and nothing substantial would be done about it. There would be a bunch of outrage and banging of fists on the table, but not much else.

Well.... it all depends ! The US is quite selective in its condemnation. Iraqis killing Iranians was ok - even when they used poison gas:

Didn’t Iraq – when it was “our” ally against Iran – also use gas on the Iranian army? It did. I saw the Ypres-like wounded of this foul attack by Saddam – US officers, I should add, toured the battlefield later and reported back to Washington – and we didn’t care a tinker’s curse about it. Thousands of Iranian soldiers in the 1980-88 war were poisoned to death by this vile weapon.

I travelled back to Tehran overnight on a train of military wounded and actually smelled the stuff, opening the windows in the corridors to release the stench of the gas. These young men had wounds upon wounds – quite literally. They had horrible sores wherein floated even more painful sores that were close to indescribable. Yet when the soldiers were sent to Western hospitals for treatment, we journos called these wounded – after evidence from the UN infinitely more convincing than what we’re likely to get from outside Damascus – “alleged” gas victims.

So what in heaven’s name are we doing? After countless thousands have died in Syria’s awesome tragedy, suddenly – now, after months and years of prevarication – we are getting upset about a few hundred deaths. Terrible. Unconscionable. Yes, that is true. But we should have been traumatised into action by this war in 2011. And 2012. But why now?

I suspect I know the reason. I think that Bashar al-Assad’s ruthless army might just be winning against the rebels whom we secretly arm. With the assistance of the Lebanese Hezbollah – Iran’s ally in Lebanon – the Damascus regime broke the rebels in Qusayr and may be in the process of breaking them north of Homs. Iran is ever more deeply involved in protecting the Syrian government. Thus a victory for Bashar is a victory for Iran. And Iranian victories cannot be tolerated by the West.

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/comment/iran-not-syria-is-the-wests-real-target-8789506.html

Refer again to the "Clean Break" list of objectives and the PNAC version of the same thing - this is all part of the program created by Netanyahu's team.

[PalestineMyHeart 1,897]

Syrians in Ghouta are saying that the rebels carried out the gas attack, using chemical weapons provided by Saudi Arabia:

Ghouta, Syria — As the machinery for a U.S.-led military intervention in Syria gathers pace following last week’s chemical weapons attack, the U.S. and its allies may be targeting the wrong culprit.

Interviews with people in Damascus and Ghouta, a suburb of the Syrian capital, where the humanitarian agency Doctors Without Borders said at least 355 people had died last week from what it believed to be a neurotoxic agent, appear to indicate as much.

The U.S., Britain, and France as well as the Arab League have accused the regime of Syrian President Bashar al-Assad for carrying out the chemical weapons attack, which mainly targeted civilians. U.S. warships are stationed in the Mediterranean Sea to launch military strikes against Syria in punishment for carrying out a massive chemical weapons attack. The U.S. and others are not interested in examining any contrary evidence, with U.S Secretary of State John Kerry saying Monday that Assad’s guilt was “a judgment … already clear to the world.”

However, from numerous interviews with doctors, Ghouta residents, rebel fighters and their families, a different picture emerges. Many believe that certain rebels received chemical weapons via the Saudi intelligence chief, Prince Bandar bin Sultan, and were responsible for carrying out the deadly gas attack.

“My son came to me two weeks ago asking what I thought the weapons were that he had been asked to carry,” said Abu Abdel-Moneim, the father of a rebel fighting to unseat Assad, who lives in Ghouta.

Abdel-Moneim said his son and 12 other rebels were killed inside of a tunnel used to store weapons provided by a Saudi militant, known as Abu Ayesha, who was leading a fighting battalion. The father described the weapons as having a “tube-like structure” while others were like a “huge gas bottle.”

Ghouta townspeople said the rebels were using mosques and private houses to sleep while storing their weapons in tunnels.

Abdel-Moneim said his son and the others died during the chemical weapons attack. That same day, the militant group Jabhat al-Nusra, which is linked to al-Qaida, announced that it would similarly attack civilians in the Assad regime’s heartland of Latakia on Syria’s western coast, in purported retaliation.

“They didn’t tell us what these arms were or how to use them,” complained a female fighter named ‘K.’ “We didn’t know they were chemical weapons. We never imagined they were chemical weapons.”

“When Saudi Prince Bandar gives such weapons to people, he must give them to those who know how to handle and use them,” she warned. She, like other Syrians, do not want to use their full names for fear of retribution.

A well-known rebel leader in Ghouta named ‘J’ agreed. “Jabhat al-Nusra militants do not cooperate with other rebels, except with fighting on the ground. They do not share secret information. They merely used some ordinary rebels to carry and operate this material,” he said.

“We were very curious about these arms. And unfortunately, some of the fighters handled the weapons improperly and set off the explosions,” ‘J’ said.

Doctors who treated the chemical weapons attack victims cautioned interviewers to be careful about asking questions regarding who, exactly, was responsible for the deadly assault.

The humanitarian group Doctors Without Borders added that health workers aiding 3,600 patients also reported experiencing similar symptoms, including frothing at the mouth, respiratory distress, convulsions and blurry vision. The group has not been able to independently verify the information.

More than a dozen rebels interviewed reported that their salaries came from the Saudi government.

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Peter Oborne, writing in the Daily Telegraph on Thursday, has issued a word of caution about Washington’s rush to punish the Assad regime with so-called ‘limited’ strikes not meant to overthrow the Syrian leader but diminish his capacity to use chemical weapons:

Consider this: the only beneficiaries from the atrocity were the rebels, previously losing the war, who now have Britain and America ready to intervene on their side. While there seems to be little doubt that chemical weapons were used, there is doubt about who deployed them.

It is important to remember that Assad has been accused of using poison gas against civilians before. But on that occasion, Carla del Ponte, a U.N. commissioner on Syria, concluded that the rebels, not Assad, were probably responsible.

http://www.mintpressnews.com/witnesses-of-gas-attack-say-saudis-supplied-rebels-with-chemical-weapons/168135/