F4 petition (S)

[Parwana 0]

Hi -

If United States Citizen has 8 siblings and wanted to apply for ALL what are the best way to start ? The question is; Can petitioner file all and send them all at the same time or one by one ?

[lost_at_sea 995]

You can file them whenever you like.

It currently takes siblings 12 years to receive their visas, longer in some parts of the world.

[Mutahir 15]

I sent 3 applications for 3 of my siblings in one package, they accepted it.

Bundle up each application with paperclips to avoid the chances of confusion.

[aaron2020 11,651]

You can file as many petitions as you want.

Just remember, you have to meet the financial requirements to bring them here in 12 years. If your siblings have spouses and children, you need to have a really big income or you will need Joint Sponsors for them.

[Parwana 0]

You can file as many petitions as you want.

Just remember, you have to meet the financial requirements to bring them here in 12 years. If your siblings have spouses and children, you need to have a really big income or you will need Joint Sponsors for them.

A family of 4 here in the U.S making 90K annually - How many individuals can this family sponsor ?

[apple21 953]

A family of 4 here in the U.S making 90K annually - How many individuals can this family sponsor ?

Here is the 2013 Poverty Guidelines: http://www.uscis.gov/files/form/i-864p.pdf

[Parwana 0]

Here is the 2013 Poverty Guidelines: http://www.uscis.gov/files/form/i-864p.pdf

sponsor's household size 100% of HHS poverty guideline (for all others)

2 $19,387

When it says ''Add $5,025 each person'' . Does this mean, if a family of 2 who makes $19,387 must have $5,025 in their bank to sponsor an additional person OR this family should get a co-sponsor?

Sorry I am a little confuse...

[NigeriaorBust 4,087]

No for each additional person you must show 5.025 in additional income. For assets you need 5 times that . We have to pick and choose siblings because there are 21 siblings most of which are married with children

[Parwana 0]

No for each additional person you must show 5.025 in additional income. For assets you need 5 times that . We have to pick and choose siblings because there are 21 siblings most of which are married with children

So what you are saying is, if a sponsorer with the household of 2 trying to sponsor 1 person, he/she must make $19,387+ $5.025 and he/she must have $100,000.000 in the bank as a saving?

I know of a friend who sponsored her mom. She is a single mom and I know for fact she doesn't and I am almost 100% sure she probably had $500 in her bank (I think she makes $40K a year) her mom immigrated here in US ? I there any document at the government level that states the sponsorer should have this much in savings?

[aaron2020 11,651]

So what you are saying is, if a sponsorer with the household of 2 trying to sponsor 1 person, he/she must make $19,387+ $5.025 and he/she must have $100,000.000 in the bank as a saving?

I know of a friend who sponsored her mom. She is a single mom and I know for fact she doesn't and I am almost 100% sure she probably had $500 in her bank (I think she makes $40K a year) her mom immigrated here in US ? I there any document at the government level that states the sponsorer should have this much in savings?

No. You can use either income or assets or a combination.

If you are only using income. For you and 8 siblings, you need to make about $55,000. The amount goes up by $5000 for each person in your household; your spouse and children. It goes up if your siblings are bringing their spouses and kids; $5000 per person.

If you are using assets, then the assets has to be 5X the income. For example, you need $100,000 in income to petition for all those people. If you had no income, then you need 5x $100,000 = $500,000 in assets.

If you are usin income and assets, then you only need 5x the difference. For example, you need an income of $100,000 but you make only $75,000. You are short $25,000 in income. You can use assets of 5x $25,000 = $125,000 in assets + $75,000 income.

With 8 siblings and unknown number of spouses and children, your income better be really high.

If you cannot meet the financial requirements, then you got to line up potential Joint Sponsors.

Your friend's income is more than enough to sponsor 1 immigrant. She didn't have to rely on assets.

Edited August 29, 2013 by aaron2020

[Parwana 0]

No. You can use either income or assets or a combination.

If you are only using income. For you and 8 siblings, you need to make about $55,000. The amount goes up by $5000 for each person in your household; your spouse and children. It goes up if your siblings are bringing their spouses and kids; $5000 per person.

If you are using assets, then the assets has to be 5X the income. For example, you need $100,000 in income to petition for all those people. If you had no income, then you need 5x $100,000 = $500,000 in assets.

If you are usin income and assets, then you only need 5x the difference. For example, you need an income of $100,000 but you make only $75,000. You are short $25,000 in income. You can use assets of 5x $25,000 = $125,000 in assets + $75,000 income.

With 8 siblings and unknown number of spouses and children, your income better be really high.

If you cannot meet the financial requirements, then you got to line up potential Joint Sponsors.

Your friend's income is more than enough to sponsor 1 immigrant. She didn't have to rely on assets.

Arron2020 -

Thank you for your time and I am not disagreeing with your wise knowledge. I am not seeing the asset part in that poverty guidance in USCIS website. can you please direct me where to find this : ((( If you are using assets, then the assets has to be 5X the income. For example, you need $100,000 in income to petition for all those people. If you had no income, then you need 5x $100,000 = $500,000 in assets.

))) in USCIS website?

My understanding is; If the petitioner with 2 household members makes $20K, he/she can sponsor 1 person IF he/she shows that they have $5000 in their savings (they don't have to show they have $25000 in their account) , Is this correct?

what happens when a sibling visa becomes current and they have to wait for affidavit - how long the NVC or the embassy keep their file active?

[aaron2020 11,651]

You are simply not getting it. I will try one more time.

Arron2020 -

Thank you for your time and I am not disagreeing with your wise knowledge. I am not seeing the asset part in that poverty guidance in USCIS website. can you please direct me where to find this : ((( If you are using assets, then the assets has to be 5X the income. For example, you need $100,000 in income to petition for all those people. If you had no income, then you need 5x $100,000 = $500,000 in assets.
))) in USCIS website? Read the instructions for Form I-864. Read Part 7, Question 10, Total Value of Assets.

My understanding is; If the petitioner with 2 household members makes $20K, he/she can sponsor 1 person IF he/she shows that they have $5000 in their savings (they don't have to show they have $25000 in their account) , Is this correct? No.

what happens when a sibling visa becomes current and they have to wait for affidavit - how long the NVC or the embassy keep their file active? 1 year of inactivities after last contact with the US agency with the case = end of case

For a household of 2 (husband and wife) who are petitioning for a one relative, the total household is 3 (husband, wife, and immigrant).

Now look at the I-864p. For a household of 3, the required income is $24,412. If you earn $20,000, then you are short $4,412. You would need assets of 5x $4,412 = $22,060 in assets.

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You have to be realisitc about how many people you can bring to the US because you will need to meet the financial requirements.

It will take 12 years. Your household count will be large. You would need to count yourself, your husband, your children, and all immigrants to determine your household size.

Right now, the household size you and your spouse are looking at with 8 siblings is 10. You need to include any immigrants that your husband has petition for and will petition for too. For a household of 10, you and your husband needs to make almost $60,000 per year. If you have children and your siblings have children and spouses who are immigrating, then the amount increases by about $5,000 per additional household members.

If you don't have the income and the assets, you will need US family and friends who can be Joint Sponsors.

Please review the financial requirements and prepare yourself. You do not want a lack of income, assets, or Joint Sponsors to end the immigration plans for your siblings.

[Merrytooth 5,748]

And don't forget about health insurances costs for all the potential immigrants.

[aaron2020 11,651]

And don't forget about health insurances costs for all the potential immigrants.

That's not a requirement for immigration visas. Don't scare people needlessly.

My brother and his family immigrated to the US without health insurance. They've been here for 3 years and are scrapping by. None of them have health insurance.

Health insurance is only required when there is a medical reason that makes the intending immigrant a likely public charge. It does not apply to every intending immigrant.

[NigeriaorBust 4,087]

Health insurance is usually a non issue except for eldery and/or sickly immigrants.