Zimmerman lawyer to ask Florida to pay up to $300,000 in legal costs: report

[Penny Lane 8,159]

He does have to recover the cost that he had to incurr to defend himself.

Great. Not sure what you're arguing with me about.

[decocker 7,198]

There has been enough not all of them get published and l am not saying Vendors do not fraud the system and vendors would be guilty too.

To me they are milking the system.

not true.

to posit that a program like wic is not necessary or beneficial to american fetuses (which i'm sure you care deeply for) and babies but instead a corrupt and fraud laden program is a super weak argument, harsh. super weak.

would you like some numbers?

[Harsh_77 718]

Great. Not sure what you're arguing with me about.

Coz u said he was milking... which he is not, he is not abusing the system.

[Penny Lane 8,159]

Coz u said he was milking... which he is not, he is not abusing the system.

Why do you have to be abusing the system in order to get everything you can from it?

Since when did milking become synonymous with abusing?

Edited August 27, 2013 by Penny Lane

[JohnR! 5,495]

He does have to recover the cost that he had to incurr to defend himself.

Why? Must it be a zero-sum game?

Edited August 27, 2013 by Gegel

[Harsh_77 718]

not true.

to posit that a program like wic is not necessary or beneficial to american fetuses (which i'm sure you care deeply for) and babies but instead a corrupt and fraud laden program is a super weak argument, harsh. super weak.

would you like some numbers?

U can produce numbers here is the fact what happens and this would not be on your report.

This is just one story :

"Last night I was shopping at Target. I went to the customer service counter to get a price adjustment on something I purchased last week. On the counter sat two gallons of milk, two large cartons of OJ, two large bottles of apple juice, and a large bag of grapes. I stated to the clerk that it would never occur to me to return groceries. She said it happens all the time. People buy the groceries with their WIC voucher then walk straight to the customer service desk to return the items for cash. Target then has to throw the items away because perishable items cannot be resold."

I am not agaisnt helping the ppl who really need it but certainly against who abuse the system and in my terms they are milking the system be it a vendor or beneficiary.

[decocker 7,198]

U can produce numbers here is the fact what happens and this would not be on your report.

This is just one story :

"Last night I was shopping at Target. I went to the customer service counter to get a price adjustment on something I purchased last week. On the counter sat two gallons of milk, two large cartons of OJ, two large bottles of apple juice, and a large bag of grapes. I stated to the clerk that it would never occur to me to return groceries. She said it happens all the time. People buy the groceries with their WIC voucher then walk straight to the customer service desk to return the items for cash. Target then has to throw the items away because perishable items cannot be resold."

I am not agaisnt helping the ppl who really need it but certainly against who abuse the system and in my terms they are milking the system be it a vendor or beneficiary.

smmfh.

this sort of anecdotal ####### floats around and conservatives just eat it up. target (walmart, the piggly wiggly, whatever) is not allowed to give cash for wic items.

edit: you obviously didn't read the responses to that 'rant'..

Edited August 27, 2013 by val erie

[Harsh_77 718]

Why do you have to be abusing the system in order to get everything you can from it?

Since when did milking become synonymous with abusing?

milk

verb

gerund or present participle: milking

1. 1.

   draw milk from (a cow or other animal), either by hand or mechanically.

   synonyms: draw milk from, express milk from More

   "Pam was milking the cows"

   • (of an animal, esp. a cow) produce or yield milk.

     "the breed does seem to milk better in harder conditions"
   • extract sap, venom, or other substances from.

     synonyms: draw off, siphon (off), pump off, tap, drain, extract More

     "milk a little of the liquid"
2. 2.

   exploit or defraud (someone), typically by taking regular small amounts of money over a period of time.

   "he had milked his grandmother dry of all her money"

   synonyms: exploit, take advantage of, cash in on, suck dry

I hope u did not mean GZ was milking a cow or something which would be #1

smmfh.

this sort of anecdotal ####### floats around and conservatives just eat it up. target (walmart, the piggly wiggly, whatever) is not allowed to give cash for wic items.

Ok... if u believe there is no abuse than there is none.

Why? Must it be a zero-sum game?

Why should he not be able to recover the money he had to spend to defend himself in frivolous lawsuit?

[decocker 7,198]

Ok... if u believe there is no abuse than there is none.

Why should he not be able to recover the money he had to spend to defend himself in frivolous lawsuit?

i didn't say there is no abuse. but you weren't interested in numbers, only some bs story you found on the internet. in your mind one woman saying she saw some returned wic items on a target counter is evidence of rampant fraud, but numbers? actual research..no, don't want that.

[Penny Lane 8,159]

milk

verb

gerund or present participle: milking

1. 1.

   draw milk from (a cow or other animal), either by hand or mechanically.

   synonyms: draw milk from, express milk from More

   "Pam was milking the cows"

   • (of an animal, esp. a cow) produce or yield milk.

     "the breed does seem to milk better in harder conditions"
   • extract sap, venom, or other substances from.

     synonyms: draw off, siphon (off), pump off, tap, drain, extract More

     "milk a little of the liquid"
2. 2.

   exploit or defraud (someone), typically by taking regular small amounts of money over a period of time.

   "he had milked his grandmother dry of all her money"

   synonyms: exploit, take advantage of, cash in on, suck dry

I hope u did not mean GZ was milking a cow or something which would be #1

Ok... if u believe there is no abuse than there is none.

Why should he not be able to recover the money he had to spend to defend himself in frivolous lawsuit?

I meant it in the "cash in on" way. I wasn't trying to imply that he was abusing the system.

He should be able to recover money spent.

What I was commenting on is how eager people are to give this man money to purchase guns, put money in his defense fund, etc ... but when people who genuinely need money from the government to survive, they are moochers and want nothing but hand outs.

You can post random stories from Target customer service desks all you want. Those stories don't tell you anything other than what we already know - some people abuse the system.

But I'm willing to bet there are far more people who use the system for its intended purpose.

Edited August 27, 2013 by Penny Lane

[Teddy B 17,252]

smmfh.

this sort of anecdotal ####### floats around and conservatives just eat it up. target (walmart, the piggly wiggly, whatever) is not allowed to give cash for wic items.

edit: you obviously didn't read the responses to that 'rant'..

Tee hee, you said piggly wiggly.

[Harsh_77 718]

i didn't say there is no abuse. but you weren't interested in numbers, only some bs story you found on the internet. in your mind one woman saying she saw some returned wic items on a target counter is evidence of rampant fraud, but numbers? actual research..no, don't want that.

Incidents like this would not even make it to the fraud numbers you are talking about.

[Teddy B 17,252]

NB disappears and Harsh shows up........................coincidence??

[decocker 7,198]

Incidents like this would not even make it to the fraud numbers you are talking about.

how do you know? you aren't concerned with numbers.

[Harsh_77 718]

He should be able to recover money spent.

So u agree he is not milking the system.