Iowa husband shoots, kills escaped inmate who held him, wife hostage

[Teddy B 17,252]

Why take out suicides?

Sure, you can take out whatever you want and that does indeed render it meaningless.

"Take out the parts that I don't like, then factor in the parts that I DO like.. and you'll see that I'm right!"

The logic is mind blowing.

[Peikko 1,575]

Why take out suicides?

Why not take them out? Clearly a specialist in risk assessment who saves insurance companies billions of dollars can't know what to put in and what to take out when undertaking a study of risk.

[Teddy B 17,252]

You guys need to stop saying stuff that I want to +1. It's frustrating me.

I have a full arsenal of +1's today. I'm firing at will. YeeHaw!!

[Harsh_77 718]

No statistics provided by the NRA to be sure, but you need to expand your reading list to include information from other sources. A scary idea I know, but you can do it.

I never said NRA provided any such stat, it is your claim that a house without a gun is more safe compared to house with gun.

Yep and you should move away from MSNBC and Bloomberg material.

[GandD 5,966]

That would be the post of the day.

They are not scared of anything... who said they are scared?

People with loaded guns all over their house scare me.

[Penny Lane 8,159]

People with loaded guns all over their house scare me.

Sometimes the walk to the bathroom is a dangerous one.

[Harsh_77 718]

http://www.minnpost.com/second-opinion/2012/12/health-risk-having-gun-home

Having a gun in your home significantly increases your risk of death — and that of your spouse and children.

And it doesn’t matter how the guns are stored or what type or how many guns you own.

If you have a gun, everybody in your home is more likely than your non-gun-owning neighbors and their families to die in a gun-related accident, suicide or homicide.

Furthermore, there is no credible evidence that having a gun in your house reduces your risk of being a victim of a crime. Nor does it reduce your risk of being injured during a home break-in.

Marvin - there are many more things in the house that can cause harm.

You make sure you put things away in right place and right way that applies to gun as well.

Edited August 23, 2013 by Harsh_77

[Teddy B 17,252]

Sometimes the walk to the bathroom is a dangerous one.

The bathroom is my favorite place, that's where I cower when the lights go out.

[Peikko 1,575]

I never said NRA provided any such stat, it is your claim that a house without a gun is more safe compared to house with gun.

Yep and you should move away from MSNBC and Bloomberg material.

It's not my claim, it's a fact. If I was to guess I would guess on the side of not having a gun in the house being safer but I don't have to, the facts are in.

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

Why take out suicides?

Because depression usually leads to suicides not guns. almost 50% of suicides happen without guns

People commit suicide every day by shutting the garage and running their car.

Do you want to outlaw garages and cars

Seriously in the above example what caused the suicide the car , the garage or the person.I said outlaw cars just to be silly, but honestly in the above scenario who in their right mind would blame the car. No one

If someone hung themselves, who would blame the rope.. No one

If someone OD'ed on Tylenol who would blame Tylenol--No one

If I jumped of a building who would blame the building-No One

But if someone shoots themselves---It's the guns fault....Absurd.

[Harsh_77 718]

People with loaded guns all over their house scare me.

Seriously I know some serious gun enthusiast but none of them walk with gun stuck in their waist band.

[Peikko 1,575]

Marvin - there are many more things in the house that can cause harm.

You make sure you put things away in right place and right way that applies to gun as well.

Thus proving you have no clue what risk assessment is or what it can do for your peace of mind

[Teddy B 17,252]

I never said NRA provided any such stat, it is your claim that a house without a gun is more safe compared to house with gun.

Yep and you should move away from MSNBC and Bloomberg material.

I feel a gif comin on.

[Penny Lane 8,159]

Can I just say that when googling and searching for a study on firearms in the home... I fount out that there's something called the "internet movie firearm database" ... it's like the IMDb, but it tells you what kind of guns are used in movies and how many times.

[Peikko 1,575]

Because depression usually leads to suicides not guns. almost 50% of suicides happen without guns

People commit suicide every day by shutting the garage and running their car.

Do you want to outlaw garages and cars

Seriously in the above example what caused the suicide the car , the garage or the person.I said outlaw cars just to be silly, but honestly in the above scenario who in their right mind would blame the car. No one

If someone hung themselves, who would blame the rope.. No one

If someone OD'ed on Tylenol who would blame Tylenol--No one

If I jumped of a building who would blame the building-No One

But if someone shoots themselves---It's the guns fault....Absurd.

Which is why someone else was charged with undertaking the study, not you. Someone with a doctorate in how to asses and manage risk. Would it suprise you to learn that the conclusion he draws for reducing gun injury and death is NOT more legislation? I bet it would