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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Ecuador
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And, raven52, you're always free to use the "report" button (toward lower right of posts) if you think that someone is being excessively rude.

06-04-2007 = TSC stamps postal return-receipt for I-129f.

06-11-2007 = NOA1 date (unknown to me).

07-20-2007 = Phoned Immigration Officer; got WAC#; where's NOA1?

09-25-2007 = Touch (first-ever).

09-28-2007 = NOA1, 23 days after their 45-day promise to send it (grrrr).

10-20 & 11-14-2007 = Phoned ImmOffs; "still pending."

12-11-2007 = 180 days; file is "between workstations, may be early Jan."; touches 12/11 & 12/12.

12-18-2007 = Call; file is with Division 9 ofcr. (bckgrnd check); e-prompt to shake it; touch.

12-19-2007 = NOA2 by e-mail & web, dated 12-18-07 (187 days; 201 per VJ); in mail 12/24/07.

01-09-2008 = File from USCIS to NVC, 1-4-08; NVC creates file, 1/15/08; to consulate 1/16/08.

01-23-2008 = Consulate gets file; outdated Packet 4 mailed to fiancee 1/27/08; rec'd 3/3/08.

04-29-2008 = Fiancee's 4-min. consular interview, 8:30 a.m.; much evidence brought but not allowed to be presented (consul: "More proof! Second interview! Bring your fiance!").

05-05-2008 = Infuriating $12 call to non-English-speaking consulate appointment-setter.

05-06-2008 = Better $12 call to English-speaker; "joint" interview date 6/30/08 (my selection).

06-30-2008 = Stokes Interrogations w/Ecuadorian (not USC); "wait 2 weeks; we'll mail her."

07-2008 = Daily calls to DOS: "currently processing"; 8/05 = Phoned consulate, got Section Chief; wrote him.

08-07-08 = E-mail from consulate, promising to issue visa "as soon as we get her passport" (on 8/12, per DHL).

08-27-08 = Phoned consulate (they "couldn't find" our file); visa DHL'd 8/28; in hand 9/1; through POE on 10/9 with NO hassles(!).

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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Philippines
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TBoneTX,

If you think I sit around taking notes about when I was insulted, or ridiculed by someone on this site, then YOU do need a life! I am far more worried about the status of my fiancé/wife than taking notes to send to people like you, to prove my point, read the thread, many people feel the same as I do about "you over-seers" .,.,.,., I have no idea who said what and when, I just totally agree with the original post, as do many others!

This site is the best, with out doubt.,.,, HELP US, not stupid posts asking for times and dates, as we that are going through K-1 and AOS, have far more to do than take notes on who said what and when! BUT, it is happening, maybe not to you as you were approved and finished long ago.,.,,...2007 I think.,.,,.,maybe try a different hobby if you cannot HELP US, or explain to us..,.,your condescending asked for "groceries list" are JUST WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT!

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TBoneTX,

If you think I sit around taking notes about when I was insulted, or ridiculed by someone on this site, then YOU do need a life! I am far more worried about the status of my fiancé/wife than taking notes to send to people like you, to prove my point, read the thread, many people feel the same as I do about "you over-seers" .,.,.,., I have no idea who said what and when, I just totally agree with the original post, as do many others!

This site is the best, with out doubt.,.,, HELP US, not stupid posts asking for times and dates, as we that are going through K-1 and AOS, have far more to do than take notes on who said what and when! BUT, it is happening, maybe not to you as you were approved and finished long ago.,.,,...2007 I think.,.,,.,maybe try a different hobby if you cannot HELP US, or explain to us..,.,your condescending asked for "groceries list" are JUST WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT!

There you go being rude again. And speaking of stupid posts, why don't you go back and read your last few.

R.I.P Spooky 2004-2015

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Mexico
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TBoneTX,

If you think I sit around taking notes about when I was insulted, or ridiculed by someone on this site, then YOU do need a life! I am far more worried about the status of my fiancé/wife than taking notes to send to people like you, to prove my point, read the thread, many people feel the same as I do about "you over-seers" .,.,.,., I have no idea who said what and when, I just totally agree with the original post, as do many others!

This site is the best, with out doubt.,.,, HELP US, not stupid posts asking for times and dates, as we that are going through K-1 and AOS, have far more to do than take notes on who said what and when! BUT, it is happening, maybe not to you as you were approved and finished long ago.,.,,...2007 I think.,.,,.,maybe try a different hobby if you cannot HELP US, or explain to us..,.,your condescending asked for "groceries list" are JUST WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT!

He did not ask for any lists, times, dates, or anything of the sort. He simply stated that if you feel a post was rude, you can click the 'Report' link to report that post to the mod team. Every post has that link at the bottom of it. You do not have to remember times and dates, just click the 'Report' link.word at the bottom of a post you feel is rude.

Link to K-1 instructions for Ciudad Juarez, Mexico > https://travel.state.gov/content/dam/visas/K1/CDJ_Ciudad-Juarez-2-22-2021.pdf

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Ecuador
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1. If you think I sit around taking notes about when I was insulted, or ridiculed by someone on this site, then YOU do need a life!

2. I am far more worried about the status of my fiancé/wife than taking notes to send to people like you, to prove my point, read the thread, many people feel the same as I do about "you over-seers" .,.,.,., I have no idea who said what and when, I just totally agree with the original post, as do many others!

3. This site is the best, with out doubt.,.,, HELP US, not stupid posts asking for times and dates, as we that are going through K-1 and AOS, have far more to do than take notes on who said what and when! BUT, it is happening, maybe not to you as you were approved and finished long ago.,.,,...2007 I think.,.,,.,maybe try a different hobby if you cannot HELP US, or explain to us..,.,your condescending asked for "groceries list" are JUST WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT!

1. Your entire argument implies that you are keeping score. Thanks for your concern about my life.

2. If you have no idea who said what and when, why do you let it bother you?

3. We finished the immigration process itself in January 2013. Reading accurately, and interpreting literally what you read, will go the longest way toward your success throughout this visa journey. That's the "HELP US" and "explain to us" that I have to offer to you tonight. Ask me where I got it from.

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06-04-2007 = TSC stamps postal return-receipt for I-129f.

06-11-2007 = NOA1 date (unknown to me).

07-20-2007 = Phoned Immigration Officer; got WAC#; where's NOA1?

09-25-2007 = Touch (first-ever).

09-28-2007 = NOA1, 23 days after their 45-day promise to send it (grrrr).

10-20 & 11-14-2007 = Phoned ImmOffs; "still pending."

12-11-2007 = 180 days; file is "between workstations, may be early Jan."; touches 12/11 & 12/12.

12-18-2007 = Call; file is with Division 9 ofcr. (bckgrnd check); e-prompt to shake it; touch.

12-19-2007 = NOA2 by e-mail & web, dated 12-18-07 (187 days; 201 per VJ); in mail 12/24/07.

01-09-2008 = File from USCIS to NVC, 1-4-08; NVC creates file, 1/15/08; to consulate 1/16/08.

01-23-2008 = Consulate gets file; outdated Packet 4 mailed to fiancee 1/27/08; rec'd 3/3/08.

04-29-2008 = Fiancee's 4-min. consular interview, 8:30 a.m.; much evidence brought but not allowed to be presented (consul: "More proof! Second interview! Bring your fiance!").

05-05-2008 = Infuriating $12 call to non-English-speaking consulate appointment-setter.

05-06-2008 = Better $12 call to English-speaker; "joint" interview date 6/30/08 (my selection).

06-30-2008 = Stokes Interrogations w/Ecuadorian (not USC); "wait 2 weeks; we'll mail her."

07-2008 = Daily calls to DOS: "currently processing"; 8/05 = Phoned consulate, got Section Chief; wrote him.

08-07-08 = E-mail from consulate, promising to issue visa "as soon as we get her passport" (on 8/12, per DHL).

08-27-08 = Phoned consulate (they "couldn't find" our file); visa DHL'd 8/28; in hand 9/1; through POE on 10/9 with NO hassles(!).

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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Philippines
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spookyturtle,

His "grocery list" asking for such stupid documentation, was just as I said, rude! I AM NOT HERE TO FILL HIS QUESTIONAIR'S, I am here for help and information, I have read his "list" 6 times, and it gets worse every time I read it.,.,.,I see where you are one of the "elite" also.,.,so I would expect something like this from you.,.,.,.,.,are you a liberal? No doubt!

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spookyturtle,

His "grocery list" asking for such stupid documentation, was just as I said, rude! I AM NOT HERE TO FILL HIS QUESTIONAIR'S, I am here for help and information, I have read his "list" 6 times, and it gets worse every time I read it.,.,.,I see where you are one of the "elite" also.,.,so I would expect something like this from you.,.,.,.,.,are you a liberal? No doubt!

You wanna play? You're rude. You don't know jack about me. Name calling? You're a sore loser. Be careful what bridges you burn here, you may need help some day and not get it.

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R.I.P Spooky 2004-2015

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I like the fact that the organizers keep VJ so organized and orderly.

I'm personally not one for too much moderation, and I've never used a report button in my life. If someone pisses me off, I just don't bother with them any longer. But, I can understand that VJ is here to serve a larger population than myself, some of whom are more sensitive and need the "protection" that moderators provide.

I also prefer blunt and to the point responses, and I find plenty of that here, so I'm happy.

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Ecuador
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I also prefer blunt and to the point responses, and I find plenty of that here, so I'm happy.

This is a productive attitude. Too often, and sadly, new members don't know what they don't know. There can be a string of threads with bad advice in an upper forum, and someone has to step in bluntly to dispel the misinformation.

Allowing misinformation to "stand" can be perilous to anyone's visa journey. One misstep can cause months or years of delay and possibly the end of the entire journey, all accompanied by deep regret. That outcome is not the purpose of this website. If some members decide to be offended, and their attitudes cloud their intake of the objective advice, then their attitudes could end up being responsible for partial or complete failure in the immigration process.

And Spooky's reaction above is blunt, but his last sentence is 100% true and possible.

Raven52, you've been given several pieces of usable advice in just the last few posts. It's hoped that you'll take them to heart. Now, what are you doing to prepare for ROC in a couple of years?

Edited by TBoneTX

06-04-2007 = TSC stamps postal return-receipt for I-129f.

06-11-2007 = NOA1 date (unknown to me).

07-20-2007 = Phoned Immigration Officer; got WAC#; where's NOA1?

09-25-2007 = Touch (first-ever).

09-28-2007 = NOA1, 23 days after their 45-day promise to send it (grrrr).

10-20 & 11-14-2007 = Phoned ImmOffs; "still pending."

12-11-2007 = 180 days; file is "between workstations, may be early Jan."; touches 12/11 & 12/12.

12-18-2007 = Call; file is with Division 9 ofcr. (bckgrnd check); e-prompt to shake it; touch.

12-19-2007 = NOA2 by e-mail & web, dated 12-18-07 (187 days; 201 per VJ); in mail 12/24/07.

01-09-2008 = File from USCIS to NVC, 1-4-08; NVC creates file, 1/15/08; to consulate 1/16/08.

01-23-2008 = Consulate gets file; outdated Packet 4 mailed to fiancee 1/27/08; rec'd 3/3/08.

04-29-2008 = Fiancee's 4-min. consular interview, 8:30 a.m.; much evidence brought but not allowed to be presented (consul: "More proof! Second interview! Bring your fiance!").

05-05-2008 = Infuriating $12 call to non-English-speaking consulate appointment-setter.

05-06-2008 = Better $12 call to English-speaker; "joint" interview date 6/30/08 (my selection).

06-30-2008 = Stokes Interrogations w/Ecuadorian (not USC); "wait 2 weeks; we'll mail her."

07-2008 = Daily calls to DOS: "currently processing"; 8/05 = Phoned consulate, got Section Chief; wrote him.

08-07-08 = E-mail from consulate, promising to issue visa "as soon as we get her passport" (on 8/12, per DHL).

08-27-08 = Phoned consulate (they "couldn't find" our file); visa DHL'd 8/28; in hand 9/1; through POE on 10/9 with NO hassles(!).

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Ireland
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***** You may have different points of view, but please argue your points politely and civilly. NO bickering or name calling or thread bans will follow ****

Bye: Penguin

Me: Irish/ Swiss citizen, and now naturalised US citizen. Husband: USC; twin babies born Feb 08 in Ireland and a daughter in Feb 2010 in Arkansas who are all joint Irish/ USC. Did DCF (IR1) in 6 weeks via the Dublin, Ireland embassy and now living in Arkansas.

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Remember that people's definition of "rude" varies wildly. Some have thick skin and a lot of stuff just bounces off, some have thin skin and take offence at every little thing that's said. Plus there is no such thing as tone on the internet.

That being said? I've only seen one rude/inflammatory post on this page (Page 4). The rest have been direct and to the point and nothing more.

"What's yours is mine!"

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