Retired Indian Navy Rear Admiral: The Chinese jugular is in the Indian Ocean

[mota bhai 2,675]

So the Indian navy will threaten to sink Chinese merchant ships if the Indian army doesn't manage to secure land in the Himalayas? Wow! Armageddon !

Blockades are standard practice, not Armageddon.

[Jacque67 7,328]

Blockades are standard practice, not Armageddon.

So are China and India are at unofficial war?

[mota bhai 2,675]

So are China and India are at unofficial war?

My response to that question would involve repeating myself, which I try not to do. Enjoy the rest of your day.

[Harsh_77 718]

So are China and India are at unofficial war?

They are not at war but china has been building stronger naval fleet, they have been adding subs and aircraft carrier and building secret base which has been making countries like India and Japan little uncomfortable.

[Jacque67 7,328]

They are not at war but china has been building stronger naval fleet, they have been adding subs and aircraft carrier and building secret base which has been making countries like India and Japan little uncomfortable.

True.

[Hilarious Clinton 452]

As a former nuclear operator for the US Navy this scares me. Training in Russia? I'm bragging when I say the US Navy has never had a nuclear reactor accident in it's entire history.

::shudders::

"India paid US$2 billion for the completion of two Akula-II class nuclear-powered attack submarines which were 40–60% completed.^[99] India has finalised a deal with Russia, in which at the end of the lease of these submarines, it has an option to buy them. The first submarine is named INS Chakra and was handed over to India on 23 January 2012.^[100] For the first time India has designed and built the first boat of a class of nuclear-powered ballistic missile submarines. It is designated the Arihant class with the first vessel currently expected to be commissioned at some point in 2013.^[101] The lead vessel of the class, Arihant, was launched on 26 July 2009 in Visakhapatnam and is currently undergoing sea trials.^[102] The Navy plans to have six SSBN's in service in the near future.^[103] These nuclear-powered submarines will be a vital part of the nation's much desired nuclear triad."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_Navy

[mota bhai 2,675]

India lost a diesel-electric submarine in Mumbai a few days ago. Just went boom, no one really knows why.

http://www.cnn.com/2013/08/17/world/asia/india-submarine-disaster/?hpt=hp_t3

[Harsh_77 718]

India lost a diesel-electric submarine in Mumbai a few days ago. Just went boom, no one really knows why.

http://www.cnn.com/2013/08/17/world/asia/india-submarine-disaster/?hpt=hp_t3

It seems the vessel was in the Naval yard and docked prob not even in duty at time of accident since it only had 13 personal on it.

[mota bhai 2,675]

It seems the vessel was in the Naval yard and docked prob not even in duty at time of accident since it only had 13 personal on it.

NEW DELHI: Veteran submariners are suggesting that the Navy should not rule out the possibility of sabotage in the sinking of INS Sindhurakshak, even as indications are emerging that the vessel was preparing for "a war patrol" with armed torpedoes and cruise missiles close to Pakistani shores.

Their suggestion that the just-ordered naval board of inquiry (BoI) chaired by a senior officer from the submarine wing should thoroughly probe the sabotage angle stems from the fact that warheads of the torpedoes and missiles have several layers of security features built in to avoid inadvertent blasts aboard the vessel.

"The warheads, whether heavy torpedo warheads or relatively smaller missile warheads, are designed with highest levels of inbuilt safety. These multi-layered measures added together ensure almost foolproof levels of safety," said Dean Mathew, a former Navy Commander and research fellow at Institute for Defence Studies and Analyses (IDSA), who was a guided weapons specialist.

Mathew and several other submarine veterans said the possibility of a "cook off", where warheads start exploding under high temperature, too, is almost impossible. Submarines like INS Sindhurakshak have mechanisms such as sprinklers that get activated in case temperature in the torpedo bay shoots up.

"So this should have worked if there was a fire in the battery compartment beneath and the temperature was shooting up in the torpedo bay above," a veteran said. For TNT, which is the main explosive filling in a torpedo, just high temperature is not enough to cause an explosion under normal circumstances. The exception could be if TNT is expired, and its chemical structure has become unstable.

Based on their own personal experiences, these veterans are arguing that explanations for the tragedy have to be more than simple

answers of material failure or standard operating procedures (SOPs) not being followed.

http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2013-08-15/india/41412564_1_torpedo-submarine-ins-sindhurakshak

[Operator 1,927]

Tibet is such a mess .( I hope this isn't against TOS) I wanted to go there until one if my profs told me people don't bathe their for most of the year- I go nuts if I can't take a shower at least once a day.

If people there do not bathe as often as Westerners do (I was never aware of it) the availability of showers is not the issue. I was able to shower everyday even when in remote areas, granted the water wasn't always hot. It's a beautiful part of the world so if you really want to visit don't let the hygiene stop you.

What is a mess are the roads, this is one of the best maintained roads I saw.

[Darnell 8,479]

re: the sub blowing up in the dock. I'm betting it's something electrical that caused it.