Police: Young woman killed in gunfight between concealed weapon permit holder, felon

[Harsh_77 718]

You know the gun lovers are going to steer from this thread.

Are you in support of the guy who was carrying illegally?

and The convicted Felon with an illegal gun, who had already been busted once for carrying an illegal gun as a felon and was let go, started firing. The legal gun owner returned fire and the Felon stooped firing and left..

Here is what we can take away from your story

1.A seven time convicted felon who had already once been convicted of carrying an illegal gun,was on the loose with a gun..-Moral of the story--Enforce the gun laws we already have instead of making more new ones that punish law abiding citizens.

2.Despite breaking many laws and despite breaking the exact gun law that would have prevented him from having a gun, this criminal was still walking the street with a gun.

3. The lawful gun owner did not draw his weapon and use it until he was fired upon. Police said the lawful gun owner did not escalate the situation

4. Had the lawful gun owner not returned fire many more could have been wounded

5. The lawful gun owner was not charged

The gun rights people will not avoid this thread as predicted because it is a text book example of Gun Laws already on the books not being enforced and a lawful gun owner using his weapon only for defense after being fired upon.

This story brightly illustrates everything we have been saying in here

[Teddy B 17,252]

83% of blacks support gun control, only 53% support gun rights. The effort should be education, equal pay, jobs, not arming everyone.

What's so confusing about that Charles? I'm in favor of gun control, but I also support ones right to own a gun. The "arm everyone" crowd seems to overlook this aspect and think that anyone in favor of stricter gun control is also in favor of removing ones right to own a gun. Simply not so.

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

What's so confusing about that Charles? I'm in favor of gun control, but I also support ones right to own a gun. The "arm everyone" crowd seems to overlook this aspect and think that anyone in favor of stricter gun control is also in favor of removing ones right to own a gun. Simply not so.

Bunker mentality. It is easier to be unreasonable when you think everyone else is as well.

[We Keep Receipts 9,238]

Are you in support of the guy who was carrying illegally?

I never said or implied that. I'm talking about the CC reduces crime aspect in some neighborhoods.

[slim 1,533]

This guy went to a fight... with a gun. I'm surprised you folks arent implying he was looking for trouble the moment he exited his vehicle.

Why the double standard?

[Harsh_77 718]

I never said or implied that. I'm talking about the CC reduces crime aspect in some neighborhoods.

CC does reduce crime as the person looking to commit crime think twice as they know they can be shot.

States with rigid CC regulation have more crime rate.

This exact scenario if there was no CC holder this guy would had gone and shot anyone and there would had been no one to stop him.

[Harsh_77 718]

This guy went to a fight... with a gun. I'm surprised you folks arent implying he was looking for trouble the moment he exited his vehicle.

Why the double standard?

+ he was carrying illegally.

[We Keep Receipts 9,238]

CC does reduce crime as the person looking to commit crime think twice as they know they can be shot.

States with rigid CC regulation have more crime rate.

This exact scenario if there was no CC holder this guy would had gone and shot anyone and there would had been no one to stop him.

Ill ask the same question I asked Gary, have you ever lived in an all black poor neighborhood?

[Penny Lane 8,159]

What's so confusing about that Charles? I'm in favor of gun control, but I also support ones right to own a gun. The "arm everyone" crowd seems to overlook this aspect and think that anyone in favor of stricter gun control is also in favor of removing ones right to own a gun. Simply not so.

Total paranoia.

[Harsh_77 718]

Ill ask the same question I asked Gary, have you ever lived in an all black poor neighborhood?

No I have not, but check out who was the guy who started the fight in Chicago for CC and why.

[We Keep Receipts 9,238]

No I have not, but check out who was the guy who started the fight in Chicago for CC and why.

http://tv.msnbc.com/2013/07/09/guns-despite-chicago-bloodshed-illinois-will-allow-concealed-carry/

It's already like the WWW there. This won't help.

[Harsh_77 718]

http://tv.msnbc.com/2013/07/09/guns-despite-chicago-bloodshed-illinois-will-allow-concealed-carry/

It's already like the WWW there. This won't help.

Despite of bloodshed?

This exactly shows not allowing CC or stricter gun control for law abiding citizen does not reduce the violence.

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

Ill ask the same question I asked Gary, have you ever lived in an all black poor neighborhood?

I have I worked and lived at an ambulance service in a black neighborhood, owned by blacks, next door to the local black hangout

Your point is?

http://tv.msnbc.com/2013/07/09/guns-despite-chicago-bloodshed-illinois-will-allow-concealed-carry/

It's already like the WWW there. This won't help.

it's like the World Wide Web ???

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

Total paranoia.

total paronia.. A government would never round up all the guns or imprison a large % of it's population for no reason..

Said no German, American Indian,, Jew or Russian ever

[Penny Lane 8,159]

total paronia.. A government would never round up all the guns or imprison a large % of it's population for no reason..

Said no German, American Indian,, Jew or Russian ever

It's okay to be scared. The guns will protect you.