What's behind Canada's improving crime stats?

[Penny Lane 8,159]

At least they've finally started phasing out the penny.

[Karee 4,190]

Crime has been going down since the 90s.

That's interesting to me. If you compare the U.S. and Canada, that would tell you that the massive increase in gun ownership in the U.S. really has nothing to do with the drop in crime.

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

No.

A civic holiday (always the first Monday in August, like today) kind of depends on which province/territory you're in.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civic_Holiday

Crime has been going down since the 90s.

So the gun laws did nothing. Always my point. Thanks.

[Karee 4,190]

That's the old days. NY and VT cranked up their cig tax and I bet they are about the same now. I quit smoking 4 years ago but even then it was not so much cheaper here.

Not if you get them at the duty free shop at the border. At least that's how it used to be.

[Penny Lane 8,159]

So the gun laws did nothing. Always my point. Thanks.

I thought your point was less gun laws = less crime.

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

That's interesting to me. If you compare the U.S. and Canada, that would tell you that the massive increase in gun ownership in the U.S. really has nothing to do with the drop in crime.

And therefore supporting laws to reduce guns would be foolish. I agree.

[Ban Hammer 13,334]

At least they've finally started phasing out the penny.

are you endangered?

[Karee 4,190]

And therefore supporting laws to reduce guns would be foolish. I agree.

Not sure I follow you. I'm slow like that. Canada has had a massive decrease in crime just like the U.S. has. Yet, I don't think that firearms are nearly as prevalent there as they are here. I thought your mantra was always more guns = less crime. That doesn't seem to be the case in Canada, unless I'm missing something.

[Penny Lane 8,159]

are you endangered?

They phased me out, bro.

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

I thought your point was less gun laws = less crime.

It is. It is both.

Gun laws have nothing to do with crime. More, less...makes no difference. Numbers of guns owned has nothing to do with crime.

Trying to address crime with gun laws is silly. Candas crime was going down. They added firearms registration. Crime continued to go down and the police said "Y'know, this really has not been any good for us and it costs a lot of money and takes a lot of time and has had no benefit" (who'da thunk it?) So they elimnated registration and crime has continued to go down.

Gun laws are not the answer to crime. You are catching on Penny. When everyone is safely within the fold, I can rest

[Karee 4,190]

They phased me out, bro.

[Penny Lane 8,159]

It is. It is both.

Gun laws have nothing to do with crime. More, less...makes no difference. Numbers of guns owned has nothing to do with crime.

Trying to address crime with gun laws is silly. Candas crime was going down. They added firearms registration. Crime continued to go down and the police said "Y'know, this really has not been any good for us and it costs a lot of money and takes a lot of time and has had no benefit" (who'da thunk it?) So they elimnated registration and crime has continued to go down.

Gun laws are not the answer to crime. You are catching on Penny. When everyone is safely within the fold, I can rest

You always said that more guns = less crime, though. Canada has the "less crime" part, but not the "more guns".

Something like 70% of violent crimes committed in the US have a gun involved. I think the number in Canada is around 30%.

Edited August 5, 2013 by Penny Lane

[Karee 4,190]

You always said that more guns = less crime, though. Canada has the "less crime" part, but not the "more guns".

Something like 70% of violent crimes committed in the US have a gun involved. I think the number in Canada is around 30%.

Yeah but what is considered a violent crime in Canada? Kicking over someone's snowman?

[Penny Lane 8,159]

Yeah but what is considered a violent crime in Canada? Kicking over someone's snowman?

Throwing Timbits.

[GandD 5,966]

At least they've finally started phasing out the penny.

First you get rid of the Penny, next its the Lane. Derp derp derp.