Driver says he did all he could during Florida school bus beating

[Penny Lane 8,159]

When one only looks at possibility rather than likelihood, poor conclusions are arrived at.

It is not likely a pit bull gets violent without being taught to be.

It's a shame there are ignorant people out there who blame or judge a bred based on the negative sh*t humans have done to it.

A pit bull and a beagle can be equally as well adjusted, given the right owner.

Edited August 5, 2013 by Penny Lane

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

This kinda brings us full circle because it is "possible" that the kid on the bus could have been beat-down and stomped by a groups of Asian students..... though I am not sure how likely that would be.

The Asian students would be able to give you the exact mathmatical liklihood.

Edited August 5, 2013 by Gary and Alla

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

It is not likely a pit bull gets violent without being taught to be.

It's a shame there are ignorant people out there who blame or judge a bred based on the negative sh*t humans have done to it.

A pit bull and a beagle can be equally as well adjusted, given the right owner.

I have a pekinese and a gun. Not taking chances

[Ban Hammer 13,589]

It is not likely a pit bull gets violent without being taught to be.

It's a shame there are ignorant people out there who blame or judge a bred based on the negative sh*t humans have done to it.

A pit bull and a beagle can be equally as well adjusted, given the right owner.

there's a pit bull about half a mile from me. it's already a known biter, having bitten its owner.

i and my other neighbors will shoot it on sight on our property.

[Penny Lane 8,159]

there's a pit bull about half a mile from me. it's already a known biter, having bitten its owner.

i and my other neighbors will shoot it on sight on our property.

That's great.

Without knowing the history of the dog, the story is kind of pointless though.

All breeds of dogs can and do bite unless trained otherwise.

Do you think he bit his owner because he's a pit bull? Please.

I have a pekinese and a gun. Not taking chances

Don't blame you. They're yappy.

Edited August 5, 2013 by Penny Lane

[Danno 1,228]

It is not likely a pit bull gets violent without being taught to be.

It's a shame there are ignorant people out there who blame or judge a bred based on the negative sh*t humans have done to it.

A pit bull and a beagle can be equally as well adjusted, given the right owner.

THe only reason I respond to this stuff is because what you are suggesting is, of course wrong but also dangerous if people hear it and believe it.

Dog breeds all have different temperaments, what makes one breed react to a perceived threat or challenge would not even phase another breed.

Some dogs are much more protective of others or of turf.

Genetic differences leave these stark differences in dogs.... differences which come by nature and centuries of selective breeding and they are powerful.

That you blame variations of traits on "abuse" is a flag you have no idea what you are talking about.

Sure we have all known dogs from aggressive breeds that are well behaved, in fact it is common but the risk is much higher that a attack will not only take place but do much more damage.

I have posted dog attack facts...... where are yours?

[Penny Lane 8,159]

THe only reason I respond to this stuff is because what you are suggesting is, of course wrong but also dangerous if people hear it and believe it.

Dog breeds all have different temperaments, what makes one breed react to a perceived threat or challenge would not even phase another breed.

Some dogs are much more protective of others or of turf.

Genetic differences leave these stark differences in dogs.... differences which come by nature and centuries of selective breeding and they are powerful.

That you blame variations of traits on "abuse" is a flag you have no idea what you are talking about.

Sure we have all known dogs from aggressive breeds that are well behaved, in fact it is common but the risk is much higher that a attack will not only take place but do much more damage.

I have posted dog attack facts...... where are yours?

Of course dog breeds have different temperments. Who is arguing that? It's how the owners handle those temperments that shape the dog and how it reacts to other people.

If an owner takes a pit bull and abuses it, neglects it, and trains it to be violent, then it will be.

If an owner takes a pit bull and raises it like any other dog, in a good and healthy environment and proper training, then it will be a well behaved and social dog.

Nobody here is denying that pit bulls attack.

What you're denying is the impact that a human has on those dogs. As evidenced by you ignorantly posted a CLEARLY ABUSED dog as if it proves your point.

No, it proved mine. That dog you posted was trained to be a fighter.

Put that dog in a good owner's home as a puppy and you wouldn't see that behavior or temperment.

You clearly don't know what you're talking about. Don't assume to know my history with dogs - my entire life has been spent with dogs. Yes, even pit bulls. Yes, even pit bulls who have attacked and were going to be put down.

I have seen them rehabilitated and turned into the dogs they should have been from the start - kind, loving, social, loyal animals. But those qualities were squashed by the douchebag owners who thought it was funny to make the dog angry and then hit him when he tried to bite.

Like most beings, they are generally a product of their environment. To deny that is ignorant.

Can you tell me what exactly I'm saying that's dangerous?

Edited August 5, 2013 by Penny Lane

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

Pit bulls are not scary. Determined and stubborn, but not scary. Rottweilers. Now those are scary, even when they know you and like you.

[Ban Hammer 13,589]

Do you think he bit his owner because he's a pit bull? Please.

why it did - i don't care.

[Penny Lane 8,159]

why it did - i don't care.

Great. Thanks for your contribution.

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

Don't blame you. They're yappy.

And stupid. She gets lost in her own backyard, no kidding. I am not talking out of turn here, Alla will tell you she is completely stupid and its her dog!

She has never bitten anyone (I think her nose would prevent that, actually) but she acts like an attack dog whenever someone comes here

[spookyturtle 9,466]

Do you think he bit his owner because he's a pit bull? Please.

Absolutely. All pit bulls bite just like all assault weapon owners are mass murderers.

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

Dogs, regardless of breed, won't be a "safe pet" if they are neglected and abused and forced into violence.

You are just flat wrong about Pitts. Yes you could have one that is a sweet pet, but it's not worth the risk.

What are you trying to prove?

Pit bulls can be very dangerous. Unfortunately it's generally humans who train them to be that way. Their size and strength are abused for sick reasons.

Pit bulls, like any other dog, can turn to violence if provoked or abused.

Give a dog a good home, raise them properly, and they'll generally turn out okay. Just like people.

Yep. The picture alone was upsetting. You can tell by the photo that dog has been used and abused.

On a nicer note...

Darn you even blame dogs behavior on someone else.

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

That's great.

Without knowing the history of the dog, the story is kind of pointless though.

All breeds of dogs can and do bite unless trained otherwise.

Do you think he bit his owner because he's a pit bull? Please.

Don't blame you. They're yappy.

My shipping manager has a pitt bull. Use to have a sign in his office "profiling is wrong" with a picture of his pitt under it. Then one day the dog almost killed him. Not an isolated incident.

[Marilyn. 340]

Some people you just can't reach.

Yes Penny Lane "any dog" can be violent if provoked.

When one only looks at possibility rather than likelihood, poor conclusions are arrived at.

This kinda brings us full circle because it is "possible" that the kid on the bus could have been beat-down and stomped by a groups of Asian students..... though I am not sure how likely that would be.

there are Asian gangs...

some examples..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Dragons_(gang)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asian_Boyz