I'm carrying a gun - Am I looking for trouble?

[Sousuke 1,214]

So, not registering your firearms means you can avoid a lawful court order, thereby becoming a criminal. Good logic there.

It means you may transfer them as opposed to agents coming to your door.

[Ban Hammer 13,590]

whats the harm in having guns registered ? its paronoia to think that the government will then come and collect them

ask england and australia how it worked out for them.....

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

It means you may transfer them as opposed to agents coming to your door.

If all transfers were recorded, then those weapons would no longer be registered to you. The only reason not to register a firearm is to avoid having a record you own it. If you are just giving them to a buddy to hold for you, then you are still avoiding the lawful court order and that makes you a criminal. You logic escapes me.

Edited August 6, 2013 by The Patriot

[Peikko 1,575]

ask england and australia how it worked out for them.....

England says gun registration is working out well for us. Policemen are still not routinely armed and manage to successfully arrest most thugs without killing them or getting injured themselves. Nothing's perfect, but having less than .1% per 100,000 injured or killed with firearms isn't a bad statistic by any measure. What did you have in mind?

[Peikko 1,575]

People who want guns have them, we even have a few gun nuts, but owning a gun just isn't the status symbol that it is in the US. Either you want a gun because you need one and you get one and register it, or you do not want a gun, quite simple really.

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

People who want guns have them, we even have a few gun nuts, but owning a gun just isn't the status symbol that it is in the US. Either you want a gun because you need one and you get one and register it, or you do not want a gun, quite simple really.

You mean, England has responsible gun owners? Wow! Imagine that -- the government helping you to become a better person.

[spookyturtle 9,466]

You mean, England has responsible gun owners? Wow! Imagine that -- the government helping you to become a better person.

The US has more responsible gun owners than Great Britain has people.

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

The US has more responsible gun owners than Great Britain has people.

That is an assertion, not a fact. I look forward to you providing a basis for your assertion.

[spookyturtle 9,466]

How many gun owners in the US? How many people in the UK? What percentage of US gun owners are irresponsible?

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

How many gun owners in the US? How many people in the UK? What percentage of US gun owners are irresponsible?

[Sousuke 1,214]

If all transfers were recorded, then those weapons would no longer be registered to you. The only reason not to register a firearm is to avoid having a record you own it. If you are just giving them to a buddy to hold for you, then you are still avoiding the lawful court order and that makes you a criminal. You logic escapes me.

I'm operating under the assumption that there is currently no registration. When a firearm is transferred officially it sits in the record book of a dealer only, not in a central database.

[spookyturtle 9,466]

We both know there are no stats for the latter claim, but we both also know it's true.

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

We both know there are no stats for the latter claim, but we both also know it's true.

I assert the vast majority of gun owners in the US have broken the law at least once in their lives, that makes them criminals and irresponsible gun owners. That makes your statement false.

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

Mr Average breaks the law at least once a day

[spookyturtle 9,466]

I assert the vast majority of gun owners in the US have broken the law at least once in their lives, that makes them criminals and irresponsible gun owners. That makes your statement false.

Statistics prove otherwise, don't they? How many victims of firearms are there each year? How many firearm incidents? How many firearms? How many firearm owners? What percentage of firearm owners are involved in these incidents? There's government stats for most of this, not some obscure blog.

Mr Average breaks the law at least once a day

Since you can't win the argument, resort to nonsense. Yep, I'm a gun owner and I've gotten a speeding ticket. I broke the law. Exact same thing as if I robbed a 7-11 and shot the clerk.