Filipino travling to the Philippines on US passport

[Greenbaum 12,259]

http://travel.state.gov/travel/cis_pa_tw/cis/cis_1753.html

In reading the link you provided I interrupted in a little different way. You stated that one may experience problems having dual citizenship. Interrupting the article I believe,

not necessary. It depends on many, many factors too many to list here.

I quote; "Claims of other countries on dual national U.S. citizens MAY conflict with U.S. law, and dual nationality MAY limit U.S. Government efforts to assist citizens abroad. The country where a dual national is located generally has a stronger claim to that person's allegiance." Meaning, that if a dual citizen US/Philippines and is in the Philippines then the Philippines will have strong jurisdiction over the dual citizen by requiring allegiance to Philippine law/procedures. BUT, it does not say in the US State Department article, that the US would NOT offer assistance, as the individual is also a citizen of the US. If they wanted assistance they would show up at the Embassy and present their US passport and they could avail the protections of the US whatever that form would be and to the extent they could based on the laws of the US and the laws of the Philippines.

If it were me, I opt in for dual citizenship. Just my 2 centavos.

Edited August 6, 2013 by Greenbaum

[JAYANN & JAY 11]

My wife will soon get her US Citizenship, and will then travel to the Philippines for around a two month stay. Will she then be required to get a visa for the extended stay like US citizens have to get. Anyone experence this before.

My parents were born in the Philippines and are US Citizens and when they travel to the Philippines they get their passport stamped with 1 year stay. I visited the philippines twice with my dad and my passport was also stamped with a 1 year stay although I was born here in the US.

[Tahoma 2,292]

The last newsworthy one was a Marine that was kept in US custody under SOFA rather than be handed over to the Filipino authorities, which totally pissed-off the Filipinos, again.

There is currently a Marin County, California official that absconded to the Philippines with a big fat investment check the county is trying to extradite.

Neither of those people are a dual citizens. They are U.S. citizens.

Further, why would the U.S. Embassy Manila help the Marin County embezzler stay in the Philippines in order to avoid being arrested on a U.S. warrant and extradited back to the U.S.?

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

Neither of those people are a dual citizens. They are U.S. citizens.

Exactly.

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

Further, why would the U.S. Embassy Manila help the Marin County embezzler stay in the Philippines in order to avoid being arrested on a U.S. warrant and extradited back to the U.S.?

I don't think they are. However, he is not rotting in an overcrowded Filipino jail either.

[Tahoma 2,292]

Exactly.

^^^ Exactly what? You're the one who made the point about the the disadvantages of being a dual citizen. That guy was not a dual citizen. Where are your examples of dual U.S/Filipino citizens who weren't helped by the U.S. government when they were in the Philippines?

I don't think they are. However, he is not rotting in an overcrowded Filipino jail either.

^^^ Let's see if I got this right...

A U.S. citizen who is not a dual citizen, who embezzled money from Marin County, who fled to the Philippines, who was the subject of an arrest warrant in the U.S., who was extradited back to the U.S. to stand trial, who was found guilty, and who was sentenced to jail...and the U.S. government helped him out by putting him in jail in the U.S. for a crime he committed in the U.S. instead of the Philippines government putting him in jail in the Philippines for no apparent reason.

This is your example of the disadvantages of dual citizenship?

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

A U.S. citizen who is not a dual citizen, who embezzled money from Marin County, who fled to the Philippines, who was the subject of an arrest warrant in the U.S., who was extradited back to the U.S. to stand trial, who was found guilty, and who was sentenced to jail...and the U.S. government helped him out by putting him in jail in the U.S. for a crime he committed in the U.S. instead of the Philippines government putting him in jail in the Philippines for no apparent reason.

This is your example of the disadvantages of dual citizenship?

He is currently awaiting a preliminary hearing on Aug 30 in a Marin Court. Once the US revoked his passport, rather than go through the lengthy extradition process, the Filipino government noted he no longer had a valid passport, and sent him back to the US for that reason. That did get him out of the Manila adult detention facility. If he was a dual citizen, he would still be in there.

Edited August 6, 2013 by The Patriot

[Tahoma 2,292]

He is currently awaiting a preliminary hearing on Aug 30 in a Marin Court. Once the US revoked his passport, rather than go through the lengthy extradition process, the Filipino government noted he no longer had a valid passport, and sent him back to the US for that reason. That did get him out of the Manila adult detention facility. If he was a dual citizen, he would still be in there.

And that proves your point...how? The only reason he was in a Filipino jail in the first place was because of the U.S. government...the very people you claim were protecting him! Some protection!!! LOL

I have faith in you that you'll see the gap in your logic big enough to drive a Mack truck through. The maybe you'll actually come up with an example that supports your point.

[April-n-Gary 17]

The only times I've heard of dual citizens running into problems were a few years ago, when France still had mandatory national service (military), some dual US/French citizens (most did not even know that they were dual citizens) would travel to France, find out that they were dual citizens, and get drafted into the French Army, nothing the US could do about it.

That being said, the problem might arise in the reverse case...say a dual US/Filipino citizen spent most of his life in the Philippines, never really gave his US citizenship much though, then as an adult moved to the US. He most likely didn't think about registering for the Selective Service on his 18th birthday and my now be ineligible for student loans, goverment jobs, etc.

Not saying that it's a big problem, or that other problems may not be insurmountable. Just saying citizenship, in any country, is or should be a big thing and serious thought to the consequenses and obligations associated with that citzenship.

[DavenRoxy 1,073]

I thought ANYONE can own up to 1,000m^2 in the PI, not just former citizens? As long as it's residential, not commercial property. Am I understanding incorrectly?

[Hank_ 9,174]

You can't -

[DavenRoxy 1,073]

Oops.... 49% rule. My bad.