PATRIOTS! REFUSE TO ENROLL!

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Citizens’ Council for Health Freedom Launches National “Refuse to Enroll” Campaign

As Obamacare Threatens Individual Choices, Privacy, and our Pocketbooks CCHF Unveils Plan to Stop Implementation

ST. PAUL, Minn.— As Obamacare prepares to officially kick off on October 1, 2013, Citizens’ Council for Health Freedom (CCHF, www.cchfreedom.org) launches the national “Refuse to Enroll” campaign with a flier detailing steps Americans can take to stop its implementation.

“While the law remains unpopular with the majority of Americans opposing it, it also limits individual choices, threatens our privacy and increases the cost of health insurance for already struggling Americans,” says Twila Brase, president and co-founder of CCHF. “Now we have identified six simple action steps to stop implementation of Obamacare. We encourage Americans to get involved and make sure that the Exchanges fail and, as a result Obamacare also fails.”

Brase identifies 4 reasons for people to refuse to enroll in the state Exchanges:

* Not private insurance: applications for exchange coverage are made to the federal government under penalty of perjury for government-controlled plans or what CCHF calls "Medicaid for the middle class.
* Lack of privacy. Exchange data on individuals, employers, navigators and others is accessible by the IRS.
* Limited choice. In many cases the coverage will be severely limited to “narrow network” policies.
* High cost premiums. Expensive Exchange operations, massive government operating costs, lack of competition and the demographics of the Exchange participants will dramatically increase premiums.

“Contrary to popular belief, non-enrollment in Exchanges does not result in any penalties. Fines are only for failure to be insured,” Brase said. “For all of the people who oppose Obamacare, they are now equipped with specific action items to make sure that it will not be implemented.”

http://www.cchfreedom.org/cchf.php/789#.Uffil43UK1Y

[Jacque67 7,328]

only the wealthy have individual choices.

what a load of nonsense .

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

I am not enrolling.

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

I am not enrolling.

Me neither. I am part of the vast majority of Americans that won't be enrolling via the exchanges.

[Golden Gate 530]

It is still unclear to me what type of insurance will be possible to get. At this point, having pre-existing conditions, insurance has been impossible for me to afford and I can't get it through my work. If Obamacare allows me to be able to actually go to the doctor and pay less than what I would pay now for insurance, I don't have a problem with it.

[ready4ONE 5,400]

“While the law remains unpopular with the majority of Americans opposing it,..."

​No kidding?

[Peikko 1,575]

Obamacare is a poor compromise to what the US actually needs, a single payer, free point of use system. Of course thet'll never happen because Americans like pretending that the majority of the US population have access to a miriad of health care options, all of them offering the best care in the modern world.The reality is that most American's have very little choice at all, and all of it excessively expensive at the point of use. I love the US but it's batty.

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

“While the law remains unpopular with the majority of Americans opposing it,..."

​No kidding?

Yup. That's like saying that water is wet. After all, every law is unpopular with those opposing it. Social Security is unpopular with the majority of Americans opposing it. As is Medicare. The House GOP should vote 40 times to repeal those between now and next November.

[Golden Gate 530]

Obamacare is a poor compromise to what the US actually needs, a single payer, free point of use system. Of course thet'll never happen because Americans like pretending that the majority of the US population have access to a miriad of health care options, all of them offering the best care in the modern world.The reality is that most American's have very little choice at all, and all of it excessively expensive at the point of use. I love the US but it's batty.

Yes, I have never found it possible to negotiate my bill with any doctor or especially when they send you out for tests. Recently, we went to the doctor - was $100 for just having the doctor sit there and ask questions and take a urine specimen, $15 to send out the test, and an additional $85 dollars to get the results of the test, and nothing was determined or diagnosed. We are still at square one and out $200 for nothing. Seems more like a scam. People who can't get affordable insurance, or even get insurance, become second class citizens. Trying to find a doctor on a sliding scale is like finding a needle in a haystack.

[Jacque67 7,328]

Yes, I have never found it possible to negotiate my bill with any doctor or especially when they send you out for tests. Recently, we went to the doctor - was $100 for just having the doctor sit there and ask questions and take a urine specimen, $15 to send out the test, and an additional $85 dollars to get the results of the test, and nothing was determined or diagnosed. We are still at square one and out $200 for nothing. Seems more like a scam. People who can't get affordable insurance, or even get insurance, become second class citizens. Trying to find a doctor on a sliding scale is like finding a needle in a haystack.

The doctor just does the job in hand. You are trying to bargain with the wrong person.

[Protocol417 161]

Contrary to popular belief, non-enrollment in Exchanges does not result in any penalties. Fines are only for failure to be insured.

I'm pretty sure this doesn't reflect popular belief at all. I've never even heard anyone imply, much less believe, that getting your insurance through the Exchanges was mandatory. Has anyone else?

[Golden Gate 530]

The doctor just does the job in hand. You are trying to bargain with the wrong person.

Well, there is no bargain. Several people on this board like to mention how they don't need insurance and they can always cut a deal. It just isn't the case.

You can have just a couple of hundred dollars in your account and that is what the doctor will take. I broke my arm last summer. I had some money in my account to pay bills for the summer (my income is limited in summer as I am a teacher), so I applied to get help from the state, the state figured that money for my bills and rent could just go to the doctor instead.

In order to get a bargain, you have to lie and cheat yourself by taking all your money out of your account and pretending you don't have any.

I just called to find out about getting into a doctor and if you are a new patient, it is almost impossible to get in to see a sliding scale doctor, as they have soooooooooo many uninsured patients and they wouldn't be able to stay in business if they took everyone. This office I called they told me they have to tell people to go to emergency. There just aren't any other choices. So the system is insane.

[Golden Gate 530]

I'm pretty sure this doesn't reflect popular belief at all. I've never even heard anyone imply, much less believe, that getting your insurance through the Exchanges was mandatory. Has anyone else?

I don't think you have to get your insurance through the exchanges. That is just one option for people. If you already have insurance, you don't need to find it somewhere else.

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

I don't think you have to get your insurance through the exchanges. That is just one option for people. If you already have insurance, you don't need to find it somewhere else.

Exactly. As long as you still have insurance. There is an economic reality that many employers and insurance companies may face in certain states, especially those states that don't already have minimum coverage, that is to say, what an insurance policy must include, or what employer provided coverage must include, although on the latter, the feds have already set those standards quite high. For some of the states, the changes will be minimal, and most of the changes have already been enacted, without too much heartache.

[Protocol417 161]

I don't think you have to get your insurance through the exchanges. That is just one option for people. If you already have insurance, you don't need to find it somewhere else.

Correct. I'm just wondering where this perception that this is "popular belief" came from. Never heard anyone, on the left or right, say that you get penalized for not using the exchanges.