Black Caucus Holds Urban Violence Summit in Chicago

[Penny Lane 8,159]

I jump to it because of the attention it received from all of these so-called leaders of the black community, while the real issues in their community are ignored.

This post is about addressing some of those "real issues" in their community.

[Ban Hammer 13,340]

i want to know where the pizza caucus is.

[Karee 4,190]

This post is about the violence in the black community, there is no mention of GZ in the article at all. Yet you're the one bringing it up here.

Yes, of course I'm bringing it up. I feel it's relevant to where they focus their attention I'd say it is more relevant than the pages and pages going on about things like peodophile priests, how conception occurs, how male birds take care of their young, pregnancy from rape, etc. etc.

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

i want to know where the pizza caucus is.

Ask my wife. She is the founding member.

[We Keep Receipts 9,238]

Yes, of course I'm bringing it up. I feel it's relevant to where they focus their attention I'd say it is more relevant than the pages and pages going on about things like peodophile priests, how conception occurs, how male birds take care of their young, pregnancy from rape, etc. etc.

But my point is, they meeting in Chicago is to address the senseless violence that is claiming all of those lives. GZ isn't the focus, those things we talk about in here:

It's no one thing," said U.S. Rep. Danny Davis of Chicago, who organized the event along with fellow Democratic Reps. Bobby Rush and Robin Kelly. "It's poverty, school closings, lack of good educational opportunities, lack of jobs, parenting and a need to rebuild infrastructure."

No where in the article do they blame Zimmerman or the tea party. They place it where it belongs, on those who are living there. Yet it isn't enough for some folks here.

The reason for the CBC and NCBC is they weren't allowed into the NC. When it's us being kept out, it's never a big deal, the second we get something exclusive, it's a problem. We want to be equal, but if the door is constantly being shut in our face, what do we do?

[GandD 5,966]

Forgive me for correcting you but since you are open minded I will take the time.

You mentioned the nature of "Conservatives."

Generally Conservatives .... conserve.

Primarily in three areas.

1. Limit Federal Govt.

2. Conserve social values and institutions which have proven beneficial to liberty and society.

3. Preserve the ability of national defense.

AS for "Lesbo Butches" and all that, there has been research done (the most indepth ever) which show children of Lesbians fare much worse in life in nearly all facets. Some quite alarming, such as sexual abuse, poverty suicide attempts and unstable relationships of their own.

Keep in mind this study deals with GROWN CHILDREN of various forms of parenting models.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/jun/10/study-suggests-risks-from-same-sex-parenting/

Your chart needs to compare same sex couples raising adopted kids with hetero couples raising adopted kids. I also suspect the "welfare" growing up refers to their same sex parents receiving government assistance based on a single income. Let them get married and they'll have to declare both incomes which would likely disqualify them from said welfare. Also, adopted kids removed from bad families tend to carry a lot of baggage with them. If you compare apples to apples as I suggested, I suspect you'll see similar numbers.

The nature of a conservative should not include a mind set of military funding past self defense. And you better believe we are way past that. We're more into control the world with our military at this point which has nothing to do with conserving.

But really there are different definitions for "conservative." There's fiscally conservative, morally conservative, sexually conservative, and on and on. I reject your notion that all are directly related. I am fiscally conservative but care nothing for religious conservative thought. Also, there are different methods for achieving conservative goals. Religious conservatives may not want to pay for birth control pills for a bunch of harlots as it would violate their religious conservatism and (they think) financial conservatism. As I said i care nothing for religion so I must now consider only the financial option. It seems a cost saving in my mind to pay for people not to have babies they don't want as its much cheaper than paying for the baby no one wants. Not just financially mind you. As we saw earlier with your numbers, adopted kids are high risk for all sorts of deviant behavior as well as government assistance.

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

That's the beauty of it, it doens't have to be called CWC to be only white people.

Here's the rest of the story:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Congressional_Black_Caucus

Quite simply, Rep. Cohen will have to accept what the rest of the country will have to accept—there has been an unofficial

Congressional White Caucus for over 200 years

, and now it's our turn to say who can join 'the club.' He does not, and cannot, meet the membership criteria, unless he can change his skin color. Primarily, we are concerned with the needs and concerns of the black population, and we will not allow white America to infringe on those objectives.

It's astounding that for so long we were kept out of so many things, and yet this was never an issue. Now that we have things that are exclusive to just us, like 2 things, the CBC and the NBC, folks are up in arms.

Yes I get it. You are ok with Racism if it benefits blacks. Whites were racist so now it's our turn .. Sweet

[Karee 4,190]

But really there are different definitions for "conservative." There's fiscally conservative, morally conservative, sexually conservative, and on and on. I reject your notion that all are directly related. I am fiscally conservative but care nothing for religious conservative thought. Also, there are different methods for achieving conservative goals. Religious conservatives may not want to pay for birth control pills for a bunch of harlots as it would violate their religious conservatism and (they think) financial conservatism. As I said i care nothing for religion so I must now consider only the financial option. It seems a cost saving in my mind to pay for people not to have babies they don't want as its much cheaper than paying for the baby no one wants. Not just financially mind you. As we saw earlier with your numbers, adopted kids are high risk for all sorts of deviant behavior as well as government assistance.

That says it all right there. How can you be fiscally conservative, yet have an issue with the govt. providing free birth control? You can't. You can pay the $8 a month or whatever it is now, or pay the govt. assistance for a couple decades, and then quite possibly pay for incarcerating the individual for years later on. It's either one or the other. People that can't support their kids, should not be forced to have them. Until the Republican party stops letting it's platform be dictated by religious zealots, it will never win another presidential election. It's a shame really, because they have alot of ideas I like.

[GandD 5,966]

That says it all right there. How can you be fiscally conservative, yet have an issue with the govt. providing free birth control? You can't. You can pay the $8 a month or whatever it is now, or pay the govt. assistance for a couple decades, and then quite possibly pay for incarcerating the individual for years later on. It's either one or the other. People that can't support their kids, should not be forced to have them. Until the Republican party stops letting it's platform be dictated by religious zealots, it will never win another presidential election. It's a shame really, because they have alot of ideas I like.

I only wrote that because I knew you wanted me to.........sir.

[Karee 4,190]

I only wrote that because I knew you wanted me to.........sir.

I forgot about that.

[We Keep Receipts 9,238]

Yes I get it. You are ok with Racism if it benefits blacks. Whites were racist so now it's our turn .. Sweet

Nope, I've said that the CBC not letting anyone else in is wrong. But I guess you don't remember that...

[Dan and Judy 614]

Could we just bus the Chicago kids to Vermont? I hear they have a very low crime rate.

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

Nope, I've said that the CBC not letting anyone else in is wrong. But I guess you don't remember that...

I smoked a lot of weed in college. My memory is the second shortest thing I have.

I do remember your wife is a 9.5

I guess it's I remember what is important

[Danno 1,228]

Your chart needs to compare same sex couples raising adopted kids with hetero couples raising adopted kids. I also suspect the "welfare" growing up refers to their same sex parents receiving government assistance based on a single income. Let them get married and they'll have to declare both incomes which would likely disqualify them from said welfare. Also, adopted kids removed from bad families tend to carry a lot of baggage with them. If you compare apples to apples as I suggested, I suspect you'll see similar numbers.

The nature of a conservative should not include a mind set of military funding past self defense. And you better believe we are way past that. We're more into control the world with our military at this point which has nothing to do with conserving.

But really there are different definitions for "conservative." There's fiscally conservative, morally conservative, sexually conservative, and on and on. I reject your notion that all are directly related. I am fiscally conservative but care nothing for religious conservative thought. Also, there are different methods for achieving conservative goals. Religious conservatives may not want to pay for birth control pills for a bunch of harlots as it would violate their religious conservatism and (they think) financial conservatism. As I said i care nothing for religion so I must now consider only the financial option. It seems a cost saving in my mind to pay for people not to have babies they don't want as its much cheaper than paying for the baby no one wants. Not just financially mind you. As we saw earlier with your numbers, adopted kids are high risk for all sorts of deviant behavior as well as government assistance.

- The study does exactly that, it compares adopted kids and how they do as well. But the fact remains, Lesbians raising kids had the worst results, the sexual abuse was stunning, keep in mind it does not say that the Lesbians were sexual, just that it happened in their childhood.

We have seen the same thing with children of "nudist's".

- I agree on military spending.

-My definition for Conservatism was from the Father of modern Conservatism, Reagan.

The reason the social element cannot be done away with is because it produces healthy results for society, without it, there can be no limited gov't..... after all who else will pay for the fallout from Liberal attitudes, this is where my Libertarian friends are not doing the math.

[Danno 1,228]

still throwing around that tired, widely disputed, study?

http://www.austinchronicle.com/news/2013-03-29/new-documents-contradict-regnerus-claims-on-gay-parenting-study/

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/03/10/supreme-court-gay-marriage_n_2850302.html

http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/closeread/2012/06/a-faulty-gay-parenting-study.html

Well of course it was "disputed" OMG you can only report flattering things about gays or be prepared for attack.... and attack they did but in the end the University had all the data reviewed and the work stands.

Now here is what you can do, you can find other studies which speak fawningly about life as a child with gay parents but when you look into their methodology you find they are such small groups surveyed and often procured at gay rallies or from volunteers located in gay publications.

The study I posted is the largest most in depth study done yet and it uniquely focuses on the out comes of children raised in different settings.

I should add, the study was not really focused on gays, that was just one of the groups they included.