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Morning, VJers

I just had a phone call from a rather brusque woman from the London Embassy informing me that the interview for the kids and me is scheduled for Tuesday morning at 8am (I know that I won't be interviewed at 8am, of course, just that I have to join the first-come-first-serve queue then). We are going off to visit my in-laws on Saturday morning so will be travelling to London from Wiltshire rather than all the way from the Scottish Highlands so the timing works well in that regard.

However, our medicals are scheduled for 1pm on Monday. Obviously with five of us going through the medicals that is going to take a while. So I am a bit confused and panicked that the Embassy have not scheduled enough of a gap between the medical and the interview because everything I had read led me to believe they wanted a gap of at least a few days in order to review the results of the medical. The Embassy are aware of the date of our medical appointments as the covering letter sent with our DS2001s and DS230s informed them of that. I don't want to risk going along to the interview and being told they cannot deal with us that day because of the medical having just been the previous afternoon. I am in my usual panic mode in other words.

Does anyone else have experience of being scheduled this close together?

Should I phone the Embassy and ask them to push our interview back a few days? (The woman on the phone would not even enter into a discussion with me about the proximity to the medical - she was really frosty).

I am going to need to book hotel accommodation for an overnight stay in London so I need to sort this out soon.

Thanks in advance for any responses!

Best wishes

Laura

Married a US/UK dual national in 1996 and had four children together.
Immigration Timeline: I130 Approval November 2012; Interview July 2013; Immigration October 2013. (Note, however, that we chose to stall the process for personal scheduling reasons)
As a family of six, we relocated from Argyll in Scotland to Pennsylvania in October 2013. 

I applied for Citizenship in October 2017 and am currently waiting for an Interview date.

Posted

Yay. That's good news.

I wouldn't worry much about the proximity. I imagine what will happen is you have the medical Monday, interview Tuesday - that would be "approved" and your passports held while they await the missing info - they get your results Thursday and issue your visas a day or two later, then hopefully return to you in the following 10 days.

The only reason it might be a pain is if something comes up at the medical, so the gap between them getting them to the embassy and you getting your passport back would be longer.

* I-130/CR-1 visa by Direct Consular Filing in London
3rd May 2013 - Married in London

7th May 2013 - I-130 filed
4th June 2013 - NOA2 (approved)
16th July 2013 - Interview (approved)
30th July 2013 - POE San Francisco
29th August 2013 - 2 year green card arrived

 

* How? Read my DCF London I-130 for CR1/IR1 Spouse Guide

* Removal of Conditions (RoC) via California Service Centre
1st May 2015 - 90 day RoC window opened
6th May 2015 - I-751 filed (delivered 8th May, cheque cashed 18th May)
7th August 2015 - Approved / GC production

27th August 2015 - 10 year green card arrived

* Naturalisation (Citizenship) via Phoenix Lockbox

* San Francisco Field Office:
1st May 2016 - N-400 window opened
20th August 2016 - N-400 filed

26th August 2016 - NOA1
13th September 2016 - Biometrics

12th January 2017 - Biometrics (again)
30th May 2017 - Interview (approved)
7th June 2017 - Oath

Posted

Yay. That's good news.

I wouldn't worry much about the proximity. I imagine what will happen is you have the medical Monday, interview Tuesday - that would be "approved" and your passports held while they await the missing info - they get your results Thursday and issue your visas a day or two later, then hopefully return to you in the following 10 days.

The only reason it might be a pain is if something comes up at the medical, so the gap between them getting them to the embassy and you getting your passport back would be longer.

Thanks, lost_at_sea. You always seem to be around when I need my bubble of panic to be burst.

I am absolutely confident nothing troubling will crop up at the medical. We are all in good health and have no medical conditions whatsoever. So as long as they do not absolutely require to have sight of the medical results ahead of the interview I guess we are OK then.

We are in no rush for the visas because my husband doesn't even start work in the US until 30 September so a short delay for them to review our case file including the medical results does not present us with a problem. The kids and I are probably looking to fly out in November given everything my husband has to organise before we can join him.

Thanks

Laura

PS I hope not everyone at the Embassy is as harsh as the phone call lady.

Married a US/UK dual national in 1996 and had four children together.
Immigration Timeline: I130 Approval November 2012; Interview July 2013; Immigration October 2013. (Note, however, that we chose to stall the process for personal scheduling reasons)
As a family of six, we relocated from Argyll in Scotland to Pennsylvania in October 2013. 

I applied for Citizenship in October 2017 and am currently waiting for an Interview date.

Posted (edited)

Thanks, lost_at_sea. You always seem to be around when I need my bubble of panic to be burst.

I am absolutely confident nothing troubling will crop up at the medical. We are all in good health and have no medical conditions whatsoever. So as long as they do not absolutely require to have sight of the medical results ahead of the interview I guess we are OK then.

We are in no rush for the visas because my husband doesn't even start work in the US until 30 September so a short delay for them to review our case file including the medical results does not present us with a problem. The kids and I are probably looking to fly out in November given everything my husband has to organise before we can join him.

Thanks

Laura

PS I hope not everyone at the Embassy is as harsh as the phone call lady.

Everyone I interacted with at the embassy on the day was lovely.

So, if you're not in a hurry you could reschedule. I think you'd have to get on the phone, though, since Tuesday is so close. :)

Personally, I'd just go for it - as you say, you're not in a super hurry, so you've plenty of time if it takes London a few days to marry up your medical results to your passports and issue the visas. Most complicated case would be they don't keep your passports and you have to send them in when they ask, but that seems unlikely given your results would only be 2 days out.

They should be aware of when your medical is from your cover letter, anyway.

Also! Exciting! Tuesday!

Edited by lost_at_sea

* I-130/CR-1 visa by Direct Consular Filing in London
3rd May 2013 - Married in London

7th May 2013 - I-130 filed
4th June 2013 - NOA2 (approved)
16th July 2013 - Interview (approved)
30th July 2013 - POE San Francisco
29th August 2013 - 2 year green card arrived

 

* How? Read my DCF London I-130 for CR1/IR1 Spouse Guide

* Removal of Conditions (RoC) via California Service Centre
1st May 2015 - 90 day RoC window opened
6th May 2015 - I-751 filed (delivered 8th May, cheque cashed 18th May)
7th August 2015 - Approved / GC production

27th August 2015 - 10 year green card arrived

* Naturalisation (Citizenship) via Phoenix Lockbox

* San Francisco Field Office:
1st May 2016 - N-400 window opened
20th August 2016 - N-400 filed

26th August 2016 - NOA1
13th September 2016 - Biometrics

12th January 2017 - Biometrics (again)
30th May 2017 - Interview (approved)
7th June 2017 - Oath

Posted

The requirement is that the medical has taken place before the interview, which you will fulfill. You will be approved pending results arriving from the doctors- which will probably arrive a day or so at most after the interview.

I wouldn't worry about it- if they are aware of the dates and they contacted you to make an appointment then its all good,

One other thing- If my rusty memory serves me well, your children are quite young aren't they?

If they are under 14, I believe they don't have to go to the interview with you..

It is buried here: http://photos.state.gov/libraries/unitedkingdom/164203/cons-visa/IV018_iv_appt_letter.pdf

That is form IV018 from the instructions and address given on the appointment letter that is sent out- http://london.usembassy.gov/visaforms.html - which you wont have had given they phoned you instead!

They will of course still have to go the medical but if you don't have to take them to the embassy that may make it somewhat easier for you!

CR1 / DCF (London): 2012 / 2013 (4 months from I-130 petition to visa in hand)

I-751 #1- April 2015 [Denied]

 

April 2015 : I-751 Joint filing package sent fedex next day 09:00am from UK ($lots - thanks). 
Jan 2017: Notification that an interview has been scheduled at a local office. Bizarrely still no RFE... 
Jan 2017: 2hr wait, then interview terminated before it began, due to moving my ID to another state 2 wks prior. New interview 'in a few months...maybe.'   Informed them that divorce proceedings are underway, but not finalised at this time. 
March 2017: An Interview was scheduled - marked as no-show as they didn't actually send out a notification of interview. FML 
April  2017: Filed an official complaint with the ombudsman, and have requested Senator & Congressman assistance
August 2017: Interview - switched to a (finalised) divorce waiver. Told that decision will be made that afternoon, but no problems foreseen with my case. 
October 2017: Letter of Denial received - reason given as 'I-751 petition was not properly filed'. Discovered ex-spouse made false allegations to USCIS in 2015. No opportunity given to review & refute allegations  - contrary to USCIS policy.

I-751 #2 - Oct 2017 - Mar 2021[Denied] 

 

October 2017: Within 72hrs of receiving denial notice, a new waiver I-751, divorce decree & $680 cheque, sent to Vermont via FedEx overnight 9am priority.  
Dec 2019: Filed FOIA request for full A# file
Feb 2020: FOIA request completed - entire A# file received as a .PDF; 197 pages fully redacted, and 80 partially redacted. Don't waste your time!
March 2021: I-751 #2 denied for lack of evidence. No RFE, no interview, and evidence in previous I-751 not reviewed - contrary to policy. Huge errors in adjudication.

N-400 - Feb 2018 - Apr 2021 [Denied]

 

February 2018: N-400 filed online.  $725 paid to the USCIS paperwork wastage fund

February  2019: Interview - cancelled after a four hour wait due to 'missing paperwork' on their end. Promised Expedited reschedule.

March 2021: Interview letter received, strangely dated after I-751 denial. No I-751 interview conducted. N-400 interview and test passed, given 'cannot make a decision at this time' paper due to the ongoing I-751 nightmare...

April 2021: N-400 denial received citing recent I-751 denial as basis for ineligibility, even though it should have been a combo interview 🤯

I AM JACK'S COMPLETE LACK OF SURPRISE

Service Motion - March 2021 [Sent via FedEx & COMPLETELY IGNORED by USCIS]

 

March 2021: Service Motion request sent overnight addressed direectly to field office director, requesting urgent review and re-opening, based on errors in adjudication - citing USCIS policy, AFM and memorandums as basis for errors. This was completely ignored by USCIS.

 I-751 #3 - June 2021 - Jan 2024 [Denied]

 

IT'S GROUNDHOG DAY

June 2021: I-751 #3 (30+lbs/5000 pages of paperwork) & another $680 sent to USCIS via FedEx ($300+..thanks) .... 

June 2021: Receipt issued, card charged, biometrics waived, infopass scheduled for I-551 stamp number ten.....

Feb 2022: RFIE (no, not an RFE, a Request For Initial Evidence) received, for copies of the divorce paperwork that they already have 😑

July 2022: Infopass for I-551 stamp number eleven.....

August 2023: Infopass for I-551 stamp number twelve....

January 2024: Denial received, ignoring the overwhelming majority of the filing, abundance of evidence, and refutation of a provably false allegation. The denial also contradicts itself in multiple places, as if it was written by someone with an IQ <50.

HAPPY NEW YEAR

 

2024: FML. Seriously. I'm done. 

 

Posted

No Jealous at all

Ok maybe a little

I do know how you feel since I have been lapped several times by people who joined this site after we had our I130s and already have their visas in hand. That was a bit disheartening while we were treading water and wondering whether to just abandon the whole plan for relocating. We, of course, stalled the process deliberately so that my husband could secure a job that pays enough to support all six of us and obviously that took a while so the delay was entirely of our choosing. Suddenly our timeline has compressed and we are in a rush.

Your time will come.

Best wishes

Laura

Married a US/UK dual national in 1996 and had four children together.
Immigration Timeline: I130 Approval November 2012; Interview July 2013; Immigration October 2013. (Note, however, that we chose to stall the process for personal scheduling reasons)
As a family of six, we relocated from Argyll in Scotland to Pennsylvania in October 2013. 

I applied for Citizenship in October 2017 and am currently waiting for an Interview date.

Posted

The requirement is that the medical has taken place before the interview, which you will fulfill. You will be approved pending results arriving from the doctors- which will probably arrive a day or so at most after the interview.

I wouldn't worry about it- if they are aware of the dates and they contacted you to make an appointment then its all good,

One other thing- If my rusty memory serves me well, your children are quite young aren't they?

If they are under 14, I believe they don't have to go to the interview with you..

It is buried here: http://photos.state.gov/libraries/unitedkingdom/164203/cons-visa/IV018_iv_appt_letter.pdf

That is form IV018 from the instructions and address given on the appointment letter that is sent out- http://london.usembassy.gov/visaforms.html - which you wont have had given they phoned you instead!

They will of course still have to go the medical but if you don't have to take them to the embassy that may make it somewhat easier for you!

Thanks, mindthegap.

I appreciate the link in particular since they are posting the letters out to my in-laws' house but they may arrive too late for us to read before we head up to London for the medical on Monday.

The whole thing about whether our children attend or not is ambiguous. You are correct in remembering that they are all under 14 (10, 7, 6 and 4) but they have all been maintained on their own case files and have not been placed under the umbrella of my petition. We had assumed they would gather us all together as one file but instead we have all been kept separate. I guess, therefore, I would prefer to err on the side of caution and take them to the interview with me. Besides which, I have to take them for the medicals so they will be in London with us anyway so we really have no choice but to take them. The only option in that scenario would be for my husband to keep them out of the Embassy and I attend the interview on my own but I would prefer my husband to be there because of the "intent to establish domicile" element.

I just have to find ways to keep them entertained during all of the queuing and waiting at the Embassy. Lots and lots of puzzle books and sticker books.

Thanks

Laura

Married a US/UK dual national in 1996 and had four children together.
Immigration Timeline: I130 Approval November 2012; Interview July 2013; Immigration October 2013. (Note, however, that we chose to stall the process for personal scheduling reasons)
As a family of six, we relocated from Argyll in Scotland to Pennsylvania in October 2013. 

I applied for Citizenship in October 2017 and am currently waiting for an Interview date.

Posted

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However, our medicals are scheduled for 1pm on Monday. Obviously with five of us going through the medicals that is going to take a while. So I am a bit confused and panicked that the Embassy have not scheduled enough of a gap between the medical and the interview because everything I had read led me to believe they wanted a gap of at least a few days in order to review the results of the medical. The Embassy are aware of the date of our medical appointments as the covering letter sent with our DS2001s and DS230s informed them of that. I don't want to risk going along to the interview and being told they cannot deal with us that day because of the medical having just been the previous afternoon. I am in my usual panic mode in other words.

Does anyone else have experience of being scheduled this close together?

Should I phone the Embassy and ask them to push our interview back a few days? (The woman on the phone would not even enter into a discussion with me about the proximity to the medical - she was really frosty).

I am going to need to book hotel accommodation for an overnight stay in London so I need to sort this out soon.

Thanks in advance for any responses!

Best wishes

Laura

Congratulations Laura.

Go to your interview as scheduled. People used to go the day before their medical even. They are fine with it. There is no visa requirement saying medical before interview. It's just medical before visa can be approved. The get-it-done-early requirement is just a way to make it all go smoother for the embassy so they can get people in, approved, and on to the visa printing station without backtracking to review again at a later time. You may not get your passport/visas back until mid August because of days to get the medical results and days to get them to go back to your case and approve.

It's a busy month at the embassy, so squeezing in four cases is impressive. Yay!

England.gifENGLAND ---

K-1 Timeline 4 months, 19 days 03-10-08 VSC to 7-29-08 Interview London

10-05-08 Married

AOS Timeline 5 months, 14 days 10-9-08 to 3-23-09 No interview

Removing Conditions Timeline 5 months, 20 days12-27-10 to 06-10-11 No interview

Citizenship Timeline 3 months, 26 days 12-31-11 Dallas to 4-26-12 Interview Houston

05-16-12 Oath ceremony

The journey from Fiancé to US citizenship:

4 years, 2 months, 6 days

243 pages of forms/documents submitted

No RFEs

Posted

Congratulations Laura.

Go to your interview as scheduled. People used to go the day before their medical even. They are fine with it. There is no visa requirement saying medical before interview. It's just medical before visa can be approved. The get-it-done-early requirement is just a way to make it all go smoother for the embassy so they can get people in, approved, and on to the visa printing station without backtracking to review again at a later time. You may not get your passport/visas back until mid August because of days to get the medical results and days to get them to go back to your case and approve.

It's a busy month at the embassy, so squeezing in four cases is impressive. Yay!

Thanks, Nich-Nick

I am assuming they have wedged us in precisely because we are five cases. It is a way of them getting us done and dusted and off their To Do list. Maybe someone has also been compassionate and recognised the distance I would have to travel with four kids in tow.

I assume they mail out the passports and visas so I will need to remember to stress to them at what point we are switching addresses to move in with my in-laws. We will be getting our mail forwarded from home, of course, but I don't want to risk anything being lost in the mail by going on a silly journey around the post system.

Cheers for reassuring me about the scheduling.

Best wishes

Laura

Married a US/UK dual national in 1996 and had four children together.
Immigration Timeline: I130 Approval November 2012; Interview July 2013; Immigration October 2013. (Note, however, that we chose to stall the process for personal scheduling reasons)
As a family of six, we relocated from Argyll in Scotland to Pennsylvania in October 2013. 

I applied for Citizenship in October 2017 and am currently waiting for an Interview date.

Posted

I assume they mail out the passports and visas so I will need to remember to stress to them at what point we are switching addresses to move in with my in-laws. We will be getting our mail forwarded from home, of course, but I don't want to risk anything being lost in the mail by going on a silly journey around the post system.

On the day, they give you a courier sheet. On that sheet, you can put whatever address you like for delivery (I assume a lot of people use their work addresses, for instance). So, you get a chance to make sure that's exactly where you want it to be.

* I-130/CR-1 visa by Direct Consular Filing in London
3rd May 2013 - Married in London

7th May 2013 - I-130 filed
4th June 2013 - NOA2 (approved)
16th July 2013 - Interview (approved)
30th July 2013 - POE San Francisco
29th August 2013 - 2 year green card arrived

 

* How? Read my DCF London I-130 for CR1/IR1 Spouse Guide

* Removal of Conditions (RoC) via California Service Centre
1st May 2015 - 90 day RoC window opened
6th May 2015 - I-751 filed (delivered 8th May, cheque cashed 18th May)
7th August 2015 - Approved / GC production

27th August 2015 - 10 year green card arrived

* Naturalisation (Citizenship) via Phoenix Lockbox

* San Francisco Field Office:
1st May 2016 - N-400 window opened
20th August 2016 - N-400 filed

26th August 2016 - NOA1
13th September 2016 - Biometrics

12th January 2017 - Biometrics (again)
30th May 2017 - Interview (approved)
7th June 2017 - Oath

Posted

On the day, they give you a courier sheet. On that sheet, you can put whatever address you like for delivery (I assume a lot of people use their work addresses, for instance). So, you get a chance to make sure that's exactly where you want it to be.

Thanks, lost_at_sea.

I think from now on we are going to use my in-laws' address for everything just to be sure so that is reassuring.

Cheers

Laura

Married a US/UK dual national in 1996 and had four children together.
Immigration Timeline: I130 Approval November 2012; Interview July 2013; Immigration October 2013. (Note, however, that we chose to stall the process for personal scheduling reasons)
As a family of six, we relocated from Argyll in Scotland to Pennsylvania in October 2013. 

I applied for Citizenship in October 2017 and am currently waiting for an Interview date.

Posted

Thanks, Nich-Nick

I am assuming they have wedged us in precisely because we are five cases. It is a way of them getting us done and dusted and off their To Do list. Maybe someone has also been compassionate and recognised the distance I would have to travel with four kids in tow.

I assume they mail out the passports and visas so I will need to remember to stress to them at what point we are switching addresses to move in with my in-laws. We will be getting our mail forwarded from home, of course, but I don't want to risk anything being lost in the mail by going on a silly journey around the post system.

Cheers for reassuring me about the scheduling.

Best wishes

Laura

When do you expect to move in with the inlaws? If it's in August, give the inlaw address to the courier. If it's September, then should be fine to receive passports at home. I figured you would be ramping it up to get moved to the US and the kids in their new schools by the start to ease their transition. (That's the teacher in me who would put that first.)

Since it's a courier, you can redirect the delivery by calling them if needed. You get notification the day before when delivery is expected.

England.gifENGLAND ---

K-1 Timeline 4 months, 19 days 03-10-08 VSC to 7-29-08 Interview London

10-05-08 Married

AOS Timeline 5 months, 14 days 10-9-08 to 3-23-09 No interview

Removing Conditions Timeline 5 months, 20 days12-27-10 to 06-10-11 No interview

Citizenship Timeline 3 months, 26 days 12-31-11 Dallas to 4-26-12 Interview Houston

05-16-12 Oath ceremony

The journey from Fiancé to US citizenship:

4 years, 2 months, 6 days

243 pages of forms/documents submitted

No RFEs

Posted

When do you expect to move in with the inlaws? If it's in August, give the inlaw address to the courier. If it's September, then should be fine to receive passports at home. I figured you would be ramping it up to get moved to the US and the kids in their new schools by the start to ease their transition. (That's the teacher in me who would put that first.)

Since it's a courier, you can redirect the delivery by calling them if needed. You get notification the day before when delivery is expected.

Our ideal timeline was indeed to move out over the summer and get the kids settled into new schools at the start of the academic year (I am a teacher too!) and that was what we were aiming for when we began this process. However, my husband's recruitment process was such a saga that it has pushed our timeline. He does not start work in the US until 30 September and his plan is to fly out on 16 September to find somewhere to live, sort out a car and that sort of thing. Once he has found somewhere for us all to live and has enough basic furniture for the kids to be comfortable the kids and I can join him. So unfortunately we are going to have to have them join in school once it is already underway. We also cannot go any sooner because of the need to wrap up all of our affairs here, not least of which is getting our house sold.

We will be moving in with the in-laws in very early September so you are probably right that they could send the passports and visas to our home address. I will ask at the interview about the expected timeline for sending out the passports just to be sure.

Thanks

Laura

Married a US/UK dual national in 1996 and had four children together.
Immigration Timeline: I130 Approval November 2012; Interview July 2013; Immigration October 2013. (Note, however, that we chose to stall the process for personal scheduling reasons)
As a family of six, we relocated from Argyll in Scotland to Pennsylvania in October 2013. 

I applied for Citizenship in October 2017 and am currently waiting for an Interview date.

 
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