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Must meet the poverty guidelines for number of people supported, for your mom that would be beneficiary (and child/children) plus herself.

http://www.uscis.gov/files/form/i-864p.pdf

Mom has her own W-2, there is no such thing as a joint W-2. Tax return is usually joint with married couples.

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Well when you finally get to AZ give a yell....

Will do....probably get there sometime in October...if we don't get waylay-ed somewhere between Portland and Arizona smile.png

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hello if ever this will happen to us. i didnt not attend my interview due to i need to rush my abby to hospital but anyway im reschedulng everything regarding the i864 which is confusing me. let me explain it to u again, i ahve a co sponsor which is the mom of my F, she is filing his income tax return jointly with his husband. who needs to fill up the i864? and how about the i864a?? sorry its really confusing me. smile.png

The joint sponsor fills out the I-864...if she is combining income with another household member, that house hold member would fill out the I-864a. If her income alone is enough to qualify, her husband does not need to file the I-864a, even though they filed a joint return.

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Good move... heat should be turned down for the year by then. laughing.gif

That was part of my thinking, And if its hot, it wont be for long. After living here in the Philippines for 3 plus years, we will probably freeze ta death up north. Neither one of us even own a jacket. All I wear here is shorts and flip flops. Today it's rainy and "cold" according to my wife. I told her she doesn't know what cold is....hahahaha

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Wait until it snows in Arizona! My wife was a stitch to watch when it started snowing... she was out in the backyard in a flash!

I told her if she wants to see some snow I would take her to Flagstaff and drop her off.dancin5hr.gif

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My sponsor files tax with her husband ( joint tax return ) when they got married . Her husband was jobless 2 or 3 years ago. Her income on form W2 (2010,2011,2012) is sufficient. But I wonder if her husband has to file I864A along with her I864 ??? In our case, the sponsor' s income is enough to support us. So I just have her I864 with her individual income . We do not have I864A from her husband, b/c her husband is jobless. Is it ok ? Since I read the instruction of I864 , if the sponsor' s income is sufficent then there is no need I864A from her spouse even they file tax jointly. Thanks for relying .

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btw so her annual income is around $38000 will it be enough? or does she still need the i864? they are 3 members in the house, additional 2 that would be and my baby.. and regarding the w2 its also joint w2 and also itr with his husband.

Your good to go with $38,000. The dollar amount to qualify for a family of five at 125% is $34,463. See http://www.masslegalhelp.org/court/125percent-federal-poverty-guidelines-article for amounts for 2013.

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Just turned in my joint sponsors (sister) I864. She also files jointly...this is what the embassy told me over the phone....If she is filing as the joint sponsor and her income alone is enough, there is no need to file the I-864a from the husband as joint filer. Just put her income only in the corresponding questions. With the new form that would be part 6 line 5....and then in part 6 line 10 as no other person is counted in the household for income purposes. In line 13a.1,13b.1,and 13c.1 for total adjusted income she put the total adjusted income from her w2's. Now this is how I was instructed. We shall see how it works out. biggrin.png

Quote from Manila Visa unit...."The contract between Sponsor and Household member (Form I864a) is used in conjunction with the sponsor's Affidavit of Support (I-864) when a sponsor is using the income or assets of household members in order to meet the statutory income requirements of INA Section 213A".

"If the joint sponsor"s income meets financial support requirements, he/she need not provide a Form I-864a".

I think in your case, because he added in the wife's income, they are now requiring the I-864a from the wife, or his name and income was added in Part 6 line 6a

I should find out soon if what they said over the phone and email is going to fly.

Good luck to you on your visa.

Hi Sir! I just wanna ask since you're case is now approved after being given 221g. My husband and I are going through the same problem with the 221g, they're asking for evidence of sustained income, and to find another joint sponsor since our sponsor (his sister) did not qualify cuz her income of $21k was based through her pension. So now on my interview they asked me to look for another joint sponsor, and now my sister (who's married to an american too, and she's working as an LPN) will be our joint sponsor..

I wanna ask you based on your experience on how long does it take for you to be approved soon as you submitted the documents? And will there be a big chance of still being denied?

I just wanna make my case clear on why I got a 221g.. My husband had been unemployed for the past 3 years and was now rehired by his previous office by 17 years for the same position, he started just last June 2013, and we thought that based on his salary we will be okay of being approved since he will be getting at least $41, 600 per annum. But i guess the consul was not happy with that. And along with this new job, we also had to have a joint sponsor when we applied for my visa last year cuz of his unemployment status.

So now we got this 221g and we are wondering as to why since he already has a job and his salary actuallly qualified on the 125% poverty guidelines.

I told the releasing in the embassy that I got all the evidence for a sustained income with me that day, his cert of employment, offer letter, and 6 pay stubs... But the guy just told me to just comply with what the consul was asking.

Thank you! i hope to hear from you, I really wanna know how long this will take for us soon as we submit the requirements they are asking.

Sarah

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Hi Sir! I just wanna ask since you're case is now approved after being given 221g. My husband and I are going through the same problem with the 221g, they're asking for evidence of sustained income, and to find another joint sponsor since our sponsor (his sister) did not qualify cuz her income of $21k was based through her pension. So now on my interview they asked me to look for another joint sponsor, and now my sister (who's married to an american too, and she's working as an LPN) will be our joint sponsor..

I wanna ask you based on your experience on how long does it take for you to be approved soon as you submitted the documents? And will there be a big chance of still being denied?

I just wanna make my case clear on why I got a 221g.. My husband had been unemployed for the past 3 years and was now rehired by his previous office by 17 years for the same position, he started just last June 2013, and we thought that based on his salary we will be okay of being approved since he will be getting at least $41, 600 per annum. But i guess the consul was not happy with that. And along with this new job, we also had to have a joint sponsor when we applied for my visa last year cuz of his unemployment status.

So now we got this 221g and we are wondering as to why since he already has a job and his salary actuallly qualified on the 125% poverty guidelines.

I told the releasing in the embassy that I got all the evidence for a sustained income with me that day, his cert of employment, offer letter, and 6 pay stubs... But the guy just told me to just comply with what the consul was asking.

Thank you! i hope to hear from you, I really wanna know how long this will take for us soon as we submit the requirements they are asking.

Sarah

Hi Sarah...

It seems like Manila really bases their decision on the past, as much as future earnings. In my case living in the Philippines for 3+ years and having very little income I was asked to get a joint sponsor. I also had enough assets to get me over the 125% requirement. In the end though I was required to get a joint sponsor, as I was told my income for 2012 was not enough. I tried to explain, and show them that my current income and assets were enough, Their decision seemed to be set in stone. In the end it worked out for us. We will be leaving in a couple days, so we are happy campers.

As far as how long it took.....Once I got my sister's info back to the embassy, it was just a matter of days before it was approved. I thought it was very fast. And then 4 or 5 days for them to sent her the visa packet.

As far as denial or approval...as long as your sisters income meets the requirements there should be no problem. Are she and her husband going to combine income?....does she have other dependents in the house? These are questions that have to be answered. Then it's just a matter of submitting the proper paperwork.

Good Luck!

Greg

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