Khyber-Pakhuntawa provincial government: “Our miseries begin with the withdrawal of foreign troops from Afghanistan"

[mota bhai 2,675]

PESHAWAR: An official strategy document on counter-terrorism by Khyber Pakhtunkhwa has warned that victory by the Afghan Taliban will further boost the morale of the Pakistani Taliban and it is erroneous to believe that militancy in Pakistan will end automatically with the withdrawal of foreign forces from neighbouring Afghanistan.

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Our miseries begin with the withdrawal of foreign troops from Afghanistan. The prognosis is bad but this is what it is. This is the writing on the wall.

Prime Minister Sharif was also cautioned against embracing the militants talk-for-peace offer on face value.

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It is not known if the all-powerful military establishment that continued to direct Pakistans Afghan policy since the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan also holds the same view. At a background meeting with media early this year, a senior security official tried to push home the point that the Afghan Taliban would look towards Kabul once they became part of the political dispensation, and the Pakistani Taliban would start looking towards Islamabad, implying that the nexus between the two ideological twins would sever once foreign troops left Afghanistan.

But some government officials warn that while Pakistan seems to be preparing itself for a possible civil war and chaos in Afghanistan in the absence of a political settlement in the post-US withdrawal scenario, there is still no understanding about the likely implications for Pakistan if the Afghan Taliban gain full or partial control in their country.

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The US-led foreign troop withdrawal will create a sense of euphoria among the Taliban in Afghanistan and the TTP-led militants in Pakistan for their perceived triumph in forcing foreign troops to leave.

Why the Afghan Taliban would provide strategic depth to Pakistan-based militants is not difficult to understand. Ideologically, Taliban do not recognise state boundaries. For them it is Darul Hurb vs. Darul Islam and there are no boundaries within Darul Islam and fighters in the way of Allah are to be welcomed.

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With the departure of the US troops, the TTP and its multiple partners will pursue their jihad with renewed vigour under the banner for setting up a true Islamic Caliphate in Pakistan.

There is no on-off switch button. You cant unplug Pakistani militants from their ideological battle-hardened brethren from across the border, Azam Khan maintains.

http://www.dawn.com/news/1031650/kp-document-warns-of-us-withdrawal-fallout

[RGinWA 816]

They need a civil war...

[mota bhai 2,675]

They need a civil war...

Explain.

[Jacque67 7,328]

Difficult problem.

[RGinWA 816]

Explain.

If they want to prevent the Taliban from taking over the country then they'd need to eradicate the group themselves. If they choose to elect the Taliban as the ruling party then they'll have to accept their rule.

It's not for me to say how people will live, some may happily live under Taliban rule. If I had to choose I'd select a more tolerant type of ruling party. Then again I'm not an Afghan. Maybe life was better under the Taliban? I have no way of knowing other than what the media portrays them as.

No other country can make a people free. This must be done either by their shear will or their own act of civil war.

I think the Taliban will reinsert themselves in the void when the US leaves. It just makes logical sense from their organizational perspective.

[mota bhai 2,675]

If they want to prevent the Taliban from taking over the country then they'd need to eradicate the group themselves. If they choose to elect the Taliban as the ruling party then they'll have to accept their rule.

It's not for me to say how people will live, some may happily live under Taliban rule. If I had to choose I'd select a more tolerant type of ruling party. Then again I'm not an Afghan. Maybe life was better under the Taliban? I have no way of knowing other than what the media portrays them as.

No other country can make a people free. This must be done either by their shear will or their own act of civil war.

I think the Taliban will reinsert themselves in the void when the US leaves. It just makes logical sense from their organizational perspective.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khyber_Pakhtunkhwa

Khyber-Pakhtunkhawa is a Pakistani province. It sounds like you misread it to think the article is primarily about Afghanistan.

[Jacque67 7,328]

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khyber_Pakhtunkhwa

Khyber-Pakhtunkhawa is a Pakistani province. It sounds like you misread it to think the article is primarily about Afghanistan.

What do you suggest as a solution?

[mota bhai 2,675]

What do you suggest as a solution?

Solution for who? Pakistan is incoherent as a nation-state, as are many other nation-states around the world (India is another good example). There is no one solution that serves all the different components of the Pakistani state.

[decocker 7,198]

bet george zimmerman could sort it all out.

[mota bhai 2,675]

Yes, because he has a gun and isn't afraid to use it.

Our gun nuts don't even realize how Maoist they are.

Power grows out of the barrel of a gun.

[decocker 7,198]

guns are security blankets for adults. all you gun nuts are a bunch of linuses.

(i'm kidding, don't soil yer pampers)

[mota bhai 2,675]

Ha, funny.

And yet, the "solution" in Pakistan will almost certainly involve guns and lots of dead men, women and children. In that sense, guns do solve problems.

[decocker 7,198]

Ha, funny.

And yet, the "solution" in Pakistan will almost certainly involve guns and lots of dead men, women and children. In that sense, guns do solve problems.

the mess would be much easier to clean up if chemical weapons are used. kill off the population as they breathe, excavate the bodies, let the air clear, start over. everyone keeps their guns in pristine condition.

[mota bhai 2,675]

the mess would be much easier to clean up if chemical weapons are used. kill off the population as they breathe, excavate the bodies, let the air clear, start over. everyone keeps their guns in pristine condition.

No, the survivors must go through an experience they wish to never relive. That means blood and gore and rape and decapitation and all that good stuff.

[decocker 7,198]

No, the survivors must go through an experience they wish to never relive. That means blood and gore and rape and decapitation and all that good stuff.

the point is no survivors. clean sweep.