Does Stand Your Ground Apply

[Karee 4,191]

uh. i don't think she should have shot anyone.

is it really that simple? all i have to do is get someone to take a swing at me, i 'fear for my life' and then it's okay for me to shoot them?

Depends on what you do to get them to take a swing at you.

[decocker 7,198]

Depends on what you do to get them to take a swing at you.

i thought i got to pass go on that one. i'm white.

[Karee 4,191]

i thought i got to pass go on that one. i'm white.

I'll break it down again.

White guy starts fight with black guy, white guy kills black guy. No problem

Black guy starts fight with white guy, white guy kills black guy. No problem

White guy starts fight with black guy, black guy kills white guy. 40 years in prison

Black guy starts fight with with white guy, black guy kills white guy. Electric chair.

Did I get that right Marvin?

[We Keep Receipts 9,238]

In all seriousness, how come nobody on here has asked why she had time to get her rifle but not time to get in her car and drive away? Or why didnt she leave instead of standing there getting punched?

Some of you have spent the last two weeks saying a man on the ground - with someone on top of him slamming his head down - shouldve walked away. Yet heres a lady who clearly had plenty of time to leave but instead decided to play cop and shoot someone.

Why the double standard?

Um, I think because she didn't go looking for a confrontation. I'm just saying.

[RGinWA 816]

In all seriousness, how come nobody on here has asked why she had time to get her rifle but not time to get in her car and drive away? Or why didnt she leave instead of standing there getting punched?

Some of you have spent the last two weeks saying a man on the ground - with someone on top of him slamming his head down - shouldve walked away. Yet heres a lady who clearly had plenty of time to leave but instead decided to play cop and shoot someone.

Why the double standard?

So stand your ground works one way only?

Stand your ground creates these stupid encounters because now anyone feels legally justified in killing.

I'll break it down again.

White guy starts fight with black guy, white guy kills black guy. No problem

Black guy starts fight with white guy, white guy kills black guy. No problem

White guy starts fight with black guy, black guy kills white guy. 40 years in prison

Black guy starts fight with with white guy, black guy kills white guy. Electric chair.

Did I get that right Marvin?

Sounds like sentencing 101.

[We Keep Receipts 9,238]

I'll break it down again.

White guy starts fight with black guy, white guy kills black guy. No problem

Black guy starts fight with white guy, white guy kills black guy. No problem

White guy starts fight with black guy, black guy kills white guy. 40 years in prison

Black guy starts fight with with white guy, black guy kills white guy. Electric chair.

Did I get that right Marvin?

Lol, it's sad but kind of true. At least that 71 year old is going to be in jail for the rest of his life for killing that 13 year old. Let's see how the Michael Dunn trial goes. We already had folks on here blaming Jordan for not turning his music down.

[decocker 7,198]

I'll break it down again.

White guy starts fight with black guy, white guy kills black guy. No problem

Black guy starts fight with white guy, white guy kills black guy. No problem

White guy starts fight with black guy, black guy kills white guy. 40 years in prison

Black guy starts fight with with white guy, black guy kills white guy. Electric chair.

Did I get that right Marvin?

white girl starts fight with any male of any hue, white girl shoots to kill. white girl win.

[slim 1,533]

uh. i don't think she should have shot anyone.

is it really that simple? all i have to do is get someone to take a swing at me, i 'fear for my life' and then it's okay for me to shoot them?

He was much bigger than her and had weapons. It wasnt just a swing.

Um, I think because she didn't go looking for a confrontation. I'm just saying.

Nor did Zimmerman.

So stand your ground works one way only?

Stand your ground creates these stupid encounters because now anyone feels legally justified in killing.

.

What rights should people have to defend themselves?

[We Keep Receipts 9,238]

He was much bigger than her and had weapons. It wasnt just a swing.

Nor did Zimmerman.

What rights should people have to defend themselves?

Mistake No. 1 was pursuing Martin on foot. Zimmerman had already done what the neighborhood watch rules advised: He had called the police. They would have arrived, questioned Martin, and ascertained that he was innocent. Instead, Zimmerman, packing a concealed firearm, got out and started walking after Martin. Zimmerman’s initial story, that he was trying to check the name of the street, was so laughable that his attorneys abandoned it. He was afraid Martin would get away. So he followed Martin, hoping to update the cops.

Mistake No. 2 was Zimmerman’s utter failure to imagine how his behavior looked to Martin. You’re a black kid walking home from a convenience store with Skittles and a fruit drink. Some dude in a car is watching and trailing you. God knows what he wants. You run away. He gets out of the car and follows you. What are you supposed to do? In Zimmerman’s initial interrogation, the police expressed surprise that he hadn’t identified himself to Martin as a neighborhood watch volunteer. They suggested that Martin might have been alarmed when Zimmerman reached for an object that Zimmerman, but not Martin, knew was a phone. Zimmerman seemed baffled. He was so convinced of Martin’s criminal intent that he hadn’t considered how Martin, if he were innocent, would perceive his stalker.

Got this from an article, makes a lot of sense.

[Karee 4,191]

white girl starts fight with any male of any hue, white girl shoots to kill. white girl win.

White guy marries white girl and white guy spends the rest of his life wishing someone would kill him.

[decocker 7,198]

He was much bigger than her and had weapons. It wasnt just a swing.

so what? she knew what she was doing. she could have walked away. she could have driven away. she didn't - she chose to get into her trunk, whip out a shotgun, reenter a confrontation and kill him.

where these two stangers to each other?

White guy marries white girl and white guy spends the rest of his life wishing someone would kill him.

sucka fool!

[Harsh_77 718]

Mistake No. 1 was pursuing Martin on foot. Zimmerman had already done what the neighborhood watch rules advised: He had called the police. They would have arrived, questioned Martin, and ascertained that he was innocent. Instead, Zimmerman, packing a concealed firearm, got out and started walking after Martin. Zimmermans initial story, that he was trying to check the name of the street, was so laughable that his attorneys abandoned it. He was afraid Martin would get away. So he followed Martin, hoping to update the cops.

Nothing illegal... geting out of the car is not illegal not packing a gun was illegal.

Mistake No. 2 was Zimmermans utter failure to imagine how his behavior looked to Martin. Youre a black kid walking home from a convenience store with Skittles and a fruit drink. Some dude in a car is watching and trailing you. God knows what he wants. You run away. He gets out of the car and follows you. What are you supposed to do? In Zimmermans initial interrogation, the police expressed surprise that he hadnt identified himself to Martin as a neighborhood watch volunteer. They suggested that Martin might have been alarmed when Zimmerman reached for an object that Zimmerman, but not Martin, knew was a phone. Zimmerman seemed baffled. He was so convinced of Martins criminal intent that he hadnt considered how Martin, if he were innocent, would perceive his stalker.

Got this from an article, makes a lot of sense.

Not sure how Skittles and Tea are important.... if TM was really scared he would had ran towards home, which he did not.

[Karee 4,191]

sucka fool!

[Penny Lane 8,159]

Nor did Zimmerman.

Once again, not defending TM's alleged actions, but how is following someone and questioning them not opening themselves up to a confrontation?

Not sure how Skittles and Tea are important.... if TM was really scared he would had ran towards home, which he did not.

Wait, didn't GZ tell 911 that TM was running/walking away? That's why he was irritated that "they always get away"...

[decocker 7,198]

Once again, not defending TM's alleged actions, but how is following someone and questioning them not opening themselves up to a confrontation?

i believe, as most prolifers, that confrontation begins at the moment of conception. stand your ground is such a slippery slope!