Does Stand Your Ground Apply

[Karee 4,191]

cops around here just get a warrant. they ask first and if you say no, that's their probable cause - your refusal. they can get a warrant from a judge in less than an hour. guess it depends if they have time to kill or not.

I think it's like that everywhere. Just like when you get pulled over. "Do you mind if I look in your car?" Like you have a choice.

[Penny Lane 8,159]

Cops around here have lots of time to kill. Barely any crime to deal with. They've come to my door twice in the last two weeks to make sure we got our pets registered. They forgot they'd been there the week before.

Ah, small town living.

[decocker 7,198]

I think it's like that everywhere. Just like when you get pulled over. "Do you mind if I look in your car?" Like you have a choice.

i thought that too, but slim was all "why did you let them in the house"

must have really awesome cops wherever he is..

[Teddy B 17,252]

He had nothing to hide or worry about, so he didn't care if they came in or not. He could have said no, but saw no reason to.

Allowing them in for the whole 3 minutes they were there was probably easier than arguing and saying no, too.

What's wrong with him? He should have spit at them, slammed the door in the pigs faces, barricaded himself inside and got locked and loaded for the 3 week standoff. Your husband is no true blooded Murican Penny.

[Penny Lane 8,159]

What's wrong with him? He should have spit at them, slammed the door in the pigs faces, barricaded himself inside and got locked and loaded for the 3 week standoff. Your husband is no true blooded Murican Penny.

He didn't stand his ground. Should have grabbed his AK-47.

I now think less of him.

[Teddy B 17,252]

He didn't stand his ground. Should have grabbed his AK-47.

I now think less of him.

He doesn't keep an AK-47 behind the front door like every real American man?

Edited July 26, 2013 by Teddy B

[Ban Hammer 13,588]

He doesn't keep an AK-47 behind the front door like every real American man?

real american men buy AR's made in merica!

[Teddy B 17,252]

real american men buy AR's made in merica!

My mistake, the AK is strictly for the vehicle.

[Karee 4,191]

My mistake, the AK is strictly for the vehicle.

I think they all shoot bullets. Not sure though.

[Teddy B 17,252]

I think they all shoot bullets. Not sure though.

I hear they enhance your manhood too.

Edited July 26, 2013 by Teddy B

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

I hear they enhance your manhood too.

In Soviet Russia, manhood enhances you!

[Darnell 8,479]

When my husband and I were dating, and I was still living in Canada, we were having an argument over the phone. He was outside on the deck while this was happening. He wasn't screaming, barely raising his voice, and the neighbors called 911 and had cops show up to the house.

And I had to talk to them, on the phone, convincing them I wasn't locked in a room somewhere.

It was effed up. I can't take anybody seriously who calls the cops for really stupid reasons.

oooooooooh! I pray you were able to give the neighbors some exlax-imbued chocolate brownies during your first week past the POE date. That'd rock, you betcha !

[Penny Lane 8,159]

oooooooooh! I pray you were able to give the neighbors some exlax-imbued chocolate brownies during your first week past the POE date. That'd rock, you betcha !

Haven't spoken to them in the almost two years I've been here.

[slim 1,533]

cops around here just get a warrant. they ask first and if you say no, that's their probable cause - your refusal. they can get a warrant from a judge in less than an hour. guess it depends if they have time to kill or not.

It would be interesting to see how well those warrants hold up in court. Cops typically have their own "go-to" judge for warrants and sometimes they get a little too cozy in that relationship. Instead of weighing the evidence to determine if probably cause exists, judges simply grant the warrant and sort it all out in court. That's doing it bass ackwards and it could cost the city/county/state a pretty penny if they have a record of this happening with some frequency.

He had nothing to hide or worry about, so he didn't care if they came in or not. He could have said no, but saw no reason to.

Allowing them in for the whole 3 minutes they were there was probably easier than arguing and saying no, too.

It's always easier to let the government take your rights away. Standing up for liberty is hard. But it's something we have to do. Cops shouldn't get too comfy arriving at someone's house and just walking in. When folks "have nothing to hide" they lower the hoop law enforcement must jump through in order to search our persons and property.

Look how many people had "nothing to hide" in the days after September 11th and were glad TSA was doing such a great job keeping us safe. How's that working out for air travelers now?

I think it's like that everywhere. Just like when you get pulled over. "Do you mind if I look in your car?" Like you have a choice.

You always have a choice. "No. You do not have my permission to search my vehicle. Am I free to go?" Make them get the dog out there. Make them call the judge. Make them tow your car.

Nine times out of ten when you make them aware that you're familiar with your rights, they're less inclined to mess with you. They have to do a lot of paperwork once they sit on your vehicle for a while. Paperwork is reviewable in court.

i thought that too, but slim was all "why did you let them in the house"

must have really awesome cops wherever he is..

I'm in Cincinnati. Our cops are, by and large, respectable fellows who honestly try to do a good job. But like everywhere else, we have those who consider themselves above the laws they've sworn to enforce.

Two nights ago there were five of them standing on top of and around an old schoolmate of mine when they shot him to death. Last night I was parallel parking less than a block from the incident and a cop pulled in behind me, hit the "brrp" horn, and waved me on. I waved back and started yelling cursewords only to remember they'd just shot a man to death the night before.

So, I circled the block.

Like everyone, I give them the benefit of the doubt, but just because they're on the clock doesn't mean they're special. They're people just like the rest of us and their job isn't to be "in charge" or to tell us what to do, it's to respond to crime and do what they can to deter it. I could've "stood my ground" and beeped my horn, got out and waved them back, etc., but like deadly force encounters, sometimes it's better to weigh the outcome and the risk involved.

So I could've parked in the spot. Would that have been a victory for freedom?

real american men buy AR's made in merica!

My Colt Match Target Rifle was made in one of the most restrictive gun rights states of the union. But neither it, nor my AKs are my home defense weapons. For that I have a Mossberg 590A1 (Also made in the USA!) with bayonet and tac light.

[Teddy B 17,252]

It would be interesting to see how well those warrants hold up in court. Cops typically have their own "go-to" judge for warrants and sometimes they get a little too cozy in that relationship. Instead of weighing the evidence to determine if probably cause exists, judges simply grant the warrant and sort it all out in court. That's doing it bass ackwards and it could cost the city/county/state a pretty penny if they have a record of this happening with some frequency.

It's always easier to let the government take your rights away. Standing up for liberty is hard. But it's something we have to do. Cops shouldn't get too comfy arriving at someone's house and just walking in. When folks "have nothing to hide" they lower the hoop law enforcement must jump through in order to search our persons and property.

Look how many people had "nothing to hide" in the days after September 11th and were glad TSA was doing such a great job keeping us safe. How's that working out for air travelers now?

You always have a choice. "No. You do not have my permission to search my vehicle. Am I free to go?" Make them get the dog out there. Make them call the judge. Make them tow your car.

Nine times out of ten when you make them aware that you're familiar with your rights, they're less inclined to mess with you. They have to do a lot of paperwork once they sit on your vehicle for a while. Paperwork is reviewable in court.

I'm in Cincinnati. Our cops are, by and large, respectable fellows who honestly try to do a good job. But like everywhere else, we have those who consider themselves above the laws they've sworn to enforce.

Two nights ago there were five of them standing on top of and around an old schoolmate of mine when they shot him to death. Last night I was parallel parking less than a block from the incident and a cop pulled in behind me, hit the "brrp" horn, and waved me on. I waved back and started yelling cursewords only to remember they'd just shot a man to death the night before.

So, I circled the block.

Like everyone, I give them the benefit of the doubt, but just because they're on the clock doesn't mean they're special. They're people just like the rest of us and their job isn't to be "in charge" or to tell us what to do, it's to respond to crime and do what they can to deter it. I could've "stood my ground" and beeped my horn, got out and waved them back, etc., but like deadly force encounters, sometimes it's better to weigh the outcome and the risk involved.

So I could've parked in the spot. Would that have been a victory for freedom?

My Colt Match Target Rifle was made in one of the most restrictive gun rights states of the union. But neither it, nor my AKs are my home defense weapons. For that I have a Mossberg 590A1 (Also made in the USA!) with bayonet and tac light.

Good to know that anyone who allows the cops to tell them what to do, besides you, is giving up their freedoms, but when you do it, it's because you fear for your life. You're a real American hero slim.