Does Stand Your Ground Apply

[Penny Lane 8,159]

I'm not sure his paranoia would make me feel safer in MY community, but to each their own.

[Karee 4,190]

I'm not sure his paranoia would make me feel safer in MY community, but to each their own.

Kinda hard to call it paranoia when you look at all the unsolved crime that was taking place in that neighborhood.

[decocker 7,198]

If it's the truth, there's nothing wrong with warning the neighbors and giving them the description of the lurkers, that's typical protocol. If he was making it up, that would be a whole different story.

warning neighbors of lurkers, specifically outsider black lurkers? that's okay? from a mall cop? i'm sorry i would have told gz to fo and gtfo. warn me when there is a legitimate problem, with more specific leads.

[Teddy B 17,252]

OMG! You are a dude!

And he's fallin for you Bill! Are you feelin the ghey?

warning neighbors of lurkers, specifically outsider black lurkers? that's okay? from a mall cop? i'm sorry i would have told gz to fo and gtfo. warn me when there is a legitimate problem, with more specific leads.

Val, as a neighborhood watch member, that's part of his duties.

[Penny Lane 8,159]

Kinda hard to call it paranoia when you look at all the unsolved crime that was taking place in that neighborhood.

I was more referring to the really ridiculous 911 calls. Dude acted like everything out of the ordinary was an emergency.

[decocker 7,198]

Val, as a neighborhood watch member, that's part of his duties.

sounds like busybody bs to me.

[Karee 4,190]

I was more referring to the really ridiculous 911 calls. Dude acted like everything out of the ordinary was an emergency.

We have to occasionally test 911 calls here where I work to make sure they go to the right emergency services. Some of the agencies are really weird about it. I think NYC will only let you test between 4 and 5 in the morning.

[Teddy B 17,252]

sounds like busybody bs to me.

There's no doubt he was/is overzealous. A good amount of the people who get into the neighborhood watch programs are.

[We Keep Receipts 9,238]

If it's the truth, there's nothing wrong with warning the neighbors and giving them the description of the lurkers, that's typical protocol. If he was making it up, that would be a whole different story.

Yeah but the inherent problem with this statement is now ALL black youths are lurkers. He said espically, this is what TM was in his mind. My sons are black, so are others. It's this type of language that says to us, you have a problem with us. Not every black kid is a lurker. He should have just said look out for suspicious folks and left it as that.

[Karee 4,190]

sounds like busybody bs to me.

Hell Yeah! If I ever caught someone like that in my 'hood, I'd kick their a$$.

(Hopefully they wont have a gun)

Edited July 26, 2013 by Karee

[Penny Lane 8,159]

When my husband and I were dating, and I was still living in Canada, we were having an argument over the phone. He was outside on the deck while this was happening. He wasn't screaming, barely raising his voice, and the neighbors called 911 and had cops show up to the house.

And I had to talk to them, on the phone, convincing them I wasn't locked in a room somewhere.

It was effed up. I can't take anybody seriously who calls the cops for really stupid reasons.

[Karee 4,190]

Yeah but the inherent problem with this statement is now ALL black youths are lurkers. He said espically, this is what TM was in his mind. My sons are black, so are others. It's this type of language that says to us, you have a problem with us. Not every black kid is a lurker. He should have just said look out for suspicious folks and left it as that.

Didn't he say initially on the 911 call that he didn't know his race?

When my husband and I were dating, and I was still living in Canada, we were having an argument over the phone. He was outside on the deck while this was happening. He wasn't screaming, barely raising his voice, and the neighbors called 911 and had cops show up to the house.

And I had to talk to them, on the phone, convincing them I wasn't locked in a room somewhere.

It was effed up. I can't take anybody seriously who calls the cops for really stupid reasons.

[Penny Lane 8,159]

Didn't he say initially on the 911 call that he didn't know his race?

It was crazy.

"Are you sure you're okay?"

"What? Yes. I'm in Canada right now and we were just having an argument."

"We want to make sure that you're safe."

"I'm in another country."

AND THEN THEY SEARCHED THE HOUSE.

You'd swear he had been screaming death threats at me or something, the way these people reacted.

[decocker 7,198]

Hell Yeah! If I ever caught someone like that in my 'hood, I'd kick their a$$.

mall cops are pariahs.

[GandD 5,966]

When my husband and I were dating, and I was still living in Canada, we were having an argument over the phone. He was outside on the deck while this was happening. He wasn't screaming, barely raising his voice, and the neighbors called 911 and had cops show up to the house.

And I had to talk to them, on the phone, convincing them I wasn't locked in a room somewhere.

It was effed up. I can't take anybody seriously who calls the cops for really stupid reasons.

Can you imagine how complacent cops must get after filtering through all these calls?