Does Stand Your Ground Apply

[decocker 7,198]

It's really pretty simple. Until the AA community starts taking responsibility for it's own problems instead of blaming GZ and the white man for all of their ills, things will only get worse for them. It's much easier to blame someone else that look at you're own issues. Al and Jesse are masters at that though. As long as their are the voice of that community, don't expect anything to change.

it really isn't that simple. the aa community isn't an entity meant to operate of it's own volition. the problems of crime and race relations are american problems that require a collective american response.

[Karee 4,190]

it really isn't that simple. the aa community isn't an entity meant to operate of it's own volition. the problems of crime and race relations are american problems that require a collective american response.

Sorry no. Can't have it both ways.

[decocker 7,198]

Sorry no. Can't have it both ways.

have what both ways? there is no AA community membership card. there is no AA community elections or heirarchy making any decisions that affect black people and black people only. the idea that black people need to organize and fight for themselves certainly isn't an idea that most americans are truly on board with. that's silly.

[Karee 4,190]

have what both ways? there is no AA community membership card. there is no AA community elections or heirarchy making any decisions that affect black people and black people only. the idea that black people need to organize and fight for themselves certainly isn't an idea that most americans are truly on board with. that's silly.

Facts are not silly. They are facts. If someone chooses not to believe them, that is silly.

[jkelly07 120]

so gorge Zimmerman helped to lift a suv that flipped on a florida hiway so the people can get out.gz went to martial arts class three hours a week on the stand his gym instructor said he was a number 1 failure. so why he can not push TM off of him he can lift a suv wow what strength GZ has and why didn't GZ fight back TM had NO marks on him olny a hole in his heart.

[decocker 7,198]

Facts are not silly. They are facts. If someone chooses not to believe them, that is silly.

what facts are you referring to?

so gorge Zimmerman helped to lift a suv that flipped on a florida hiway so the people can get out.gz went to martial arts class three hours a week on the stand his gym instructor said he was a number 1 failure. so why he can not push TM off of him he can lift a suv wow what strength GZ has and why didn't GZ fight back TM had NO marks on him olny a hole in his heart.

i seriously doubt the suv story.

[Jacque67 7,328]

Sure they did. First they moved to the suburbs in the 70s and early 80s. The jobs were still in Detroit, you just have to drive further to get to them. Then in the 80s when they kept making crappy cars, there were no more Auto jobs, so they just left Michigan altogether.

I lived in a house on the west side of Detroit around 1985. The guys across the street were crack dealers and didn't like neighbors. So they just burned down the houses on either side of them. Problem solved.

Also, you can thank programs like forced bussing for speeding up the process of Detroits downfall. The auto unions put the final nail in the coffin I think. But the major driving force behind people leaving the city of Detroit was the out of control crime. Now if you call a cop, the average response time is something like an hour, if they show up at all.

Detroit is the shining example of the Democrat party's policies at work. Take a trip sometime. Check it out. It looks like Berlin in 1945 after the allies bombed the hell out of it for 3 years. Don't forget to bring a camera and some firearms, because calling a cop wont help you.

If true, how awful.

[Jacque67 7,328]

Facts are not silly. They are facts. If someone chooses not to believe them, that is silly.

Define fact.

[decocker 7,198]

Define fact.

fact

/fakt/

Noun

1. A thing that is indisputably the case.
2. Information used as evidence or as part of a report or news article.

[slim 1,530]

What is this a video game? If someone is chasing you and you meet them, the prior chase is inadmissable? What happened? Did the reset button get pushed?

Yes. Once they stopped and talked to each other, force was equal.

[decocker 7,198]

Yes. Once they stopped and talked to each other, force was equal.

equal except one had a gun and the other did not.

[slim 1,530]

equal except one had a gun and the other did not.

Neither had guns out. So force is still equal.

[decocker 7,198]

Neither had guns out. So force is still equal.

right. potential is of no consequence.

[Harsh_77 718]

And Dee Dee warned TM that he could be a potential rapist. Perhaps Trayvon didn't want the creepy A.C. following him to where he was staying.

So he was going to take care of the rapist on the street in street fight?

[decocker 7,198]

So he was going to take care of the rapist on the street in street fight?

why not? zimmerman was fighting neighborhood crime, why can't trayvon? i mean, beside the fact that he's dead now.