Why the Phrase "Black-on-Black Crime" Suggests Inherent Criminality

[Jacque67 7,328]

Yes the punishment is different based on the intent, but the punishment does not change based on the race, or sexual orientation of the victim. And why should it? Why should one victims life be deemed more valuable based on their race or sexual orientation? Isn't that exactly what racism and prejudice is?

Have you ever seen a grown man naked?

No. Educate me and post a pic!

All white jury. It would have been difficult to get a conviction, no matter the charge, given the statement of at least one of the jurors.

Nice try.

[Teddy B 17,252]

Because you're dangerous to all gay or black people if you kill someone for being gay or black until rehabilitated. If you kill someone because they slept with your life, you're probably no longer a threat to society. Granted, you still need to be punished.

So the level of punishment should be different in these cases, or the level of rehabilitation should be different?

damn geraldo covering up his manly bits with a towel.

Only you Val!

[Penny Lane 8,159]

damn geraldo covering up his manly bits with a towel.

You need to start posting more regularly again, please.

[GandD 5,966]

So the level of punishment should be different in these cases, or the level of rehabilitation should be different?

Is punishment the length of how long they sit in prison?

You need to start posting more regularly again, please.

I hate to break it to you but she's been cheating on you with the maven. I caught them scissoring.

[Teddy B 17,252]

Is punishment the length of how long they sit in prison?

Yes.

[Jacque67 7,328]

Yes.

Waiting for the pic.

[Karee 4,191]

If a Middle Eastern looking guy showed up at an airport security checkpoint in 2000 with a box cutter, no one would have thought anything about it. Now if a Middle Eastern looking guy shows up at an airport security checkpoint with a box cutter, it probably raises some eyebrows. Is that racial profiling?

Edited July 24, 2013 by Karee

[Penny Lane 8,159]

Is punishment the length of how long they sit in prison?

I hate to break it to you but she's been cheating on you with the maven. I caught them scissoring.

maven is quality people. We need more logical people around here more often.

[GandD 5,966]

Yes.

You know, I don't get off on the whole making people pay stuff. To me the sentence is over when the person is no longer likely to do the crime for which they were sentenced. Now I don't mean to make light of the obvious limitations there are to actually root causing and "fixing" all people sentenced to jail but we must not lose sight of this being the entire purpose. I think we're far to content with using jails to write people off and get them out of society so to speak.

[Jacque67 7,328]

If a Middle Eastern looking guy showed up at an airport security checkpoint in 2000 with a box cutter, no one would have thought anything about it. Now if a Middle Eastern looking guy shows up at an airport security checkpoint with a box cutter, it probably raises some eyebrows. Is that racial profiling?

Depends what the reaction is to a white guy showing up with a box cutter.

Edited July 24, 2013 by Jacque67

[We Keep Receipts 9,238]

If a Middle Eastern looking guy showed up at an airport security checkpoint in 2000 with a box cutter, no one would have thought anything about it. Now if a Middle Eastern looking guy shows up at an airport security checkpoint with a box cutter, it probably raises some eyebrows. Is that racial profiling?

I'll do you one better, guy walks into a school with a bunch of weapons and you know the rest. A month later, a guy walks into a JC Pennys with an AR-15 strapped on his back. Do you think a black man or middle eastern man could have done the same thing?

But yes that is racial profiling. It's the reason muslims in full gear have problems getting flights.

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

If a Middle Eastern looking guy showed up at an airport security checkpoint in 2000 with a box cutter, no one would have thought anything about it. Now if a Middle Eastern looking guy shows up at an airport security checkpoint with a box cutter, it probably raises some eyebrows. Is that racial profiling?

Yes.

[GandD 5,966]

I'm only +1ing this because of the way you did this.

[We Keep Receipts 9,238]

All white jury. It would have been difficult to get a conviction, no matter the charge, given the statement of at least one of the jurors.

Anytime you have an all white jury, and the victim is black/brown, chances are you're going to have problems. That's one of the stigmas of being black, you will be on trial for your own murder.

[Teddy B 17,252]

Waiting for the pic.

Did I say I would post one?

If a Middle Eastern looking guy showed up at an airport security checkpoint in 2000 with a box cutter, no one would have thought anything about it. Now if a Middle Eastern looking guy shows up at an airport security checkpoint with a box cutter, it probably raises some eyebrows. Is that racial profiling?

Everyone profiles to some extent. I chuckle when someone says they don't.

You know, I don't get off on the whole making people pay stuff. To me the sentence is over when the person is no longer likely to do the crime for which they were sentenced. Now I don't mean to make light of the obvious limitations there are to actually root causing and "fixing" all people sentenced to jail but we must not lose sight of this being the entire purpose. I think we're far to content with using jails to write people off and get them out of society so to speak.

I can respect that. I do believe that anyone guilty of a crime should be punished for that crime. I don't however believe that the punishment of the same crime should be different for the perpetrator based on the race, or sexual orientation of the victim. That's racism and prejudice in their purest forms.